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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMarch 4th revealed that the MAGAts don't actually care whether Trump won the 2020 election or not.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/04/us/politics/qanon-capitol-washington.htmlWhen President Donald Trump left office in January, rather than staging a military coup, as many QAnon supporters had hoped he would, some adopted a hypothesis that Jan. 20 wasnt the real Inauguration Day anyway that it was, in fact, March 4, which really did serve as the presidential swearing-in date until the 1930s. That, they said, was when Trump would wrest back power from President Biden.
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So as the date drew nearer, something ironic happened: Many of the online influencers who tend to drive the conversation around QAnon started throwing cold water on the March 4 idea, though it had been theirs in the first place.
In the lead-up, all these influencers realized all these false prophecies are going to look bad and might hurt their profit,
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Bloom, who is also a communications professor at Georgia State University, said that since December, when the original person (or people) who had been anonymously posting online under the name Q stopped writing publicly, a growing aristocracy of writers had sprung up to create paid content, using platforms like Patreon or PayPal to monetize their ever-evolving torrent of conspiracy narratives.
They were the ones that floated March 4, she said. They were also the ones in the last two weeks saying: No, no, no, its a false flag. Its not QAnon thats going to do anything on March 4. Its a false-flag operation by antifa to make us look bad.
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For Rachel Kleinfeld, a senior fellow in the Democracy, Conflict and Governance Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, this is just one more sign of how malleable and potentially long-lasting the QAnon conspiracy theory appears to be.
Whats really worrisome about QAnon is that its basically a choose-your-own-adventure, she said. It allows people to co-create a conspiracy that gives them a strong sense of positive community and belonging, in a world thats very isolated.
And its a community in which theres an idea, rather like an improv group, to say, Yes, and not, No, but, Kleinfeld said. If someone throws out an idea, others are encouraged to build on it. That suggests a long life, a durability.
You see? It was never about who won the 2020 election or not.
They come together and cook up these fantasies to create alternate realities in which they are heroes standing up against something. And it doesn't even matter to them WHAT EXACTLY they are against.
I have seen this phenomenon before. With Flat-Earthers. No Flat-Earther can explain how things work on a Flat-Earth and Flat-Earthers cannot even agree with each other on what this Flat-Earth is like. But they are all ADAMANTLY UNITED in their belief that being a Flat-Earther means being in opposition to the evil conspiracy that hides the true shape of the world.
MAGAts don't give a shit about whether Trump is President, just like Flat-Earthers don't give a shit whether Earth is flat. These claims are nothing but constantly redefined excuses to form culturally isolated communities in which they can feel at home, to create alternative realities in which they belong to a merry band of heroes that fights against evil.
Once Trump has outlived his usefulness as a cudgel to own the libs, once all the lawsuits and investigations reveal him to be undeniably useless as a culture-war prop, his fans will backstab him faster than you can say "OAN is better than Fox News."
Bettie
(16,089 posts)who have gone so deep into the game that they don't know the difference between fantasy and reality.
struggle4progress
(118,277 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,915 posts)The are embracing GOP lies to fulfill their own fantasies of violence, fame, glory.
Girard442
(6,070 posts)They just sort of believe they believe.
Here's a belief nearly everyone holds -- you have to put fuel into your car to make it go. Turns out there are a bazillion consequences to that belief. You need to buy it. You need to know where you can buy it. You need to know if you have enough in the tank to get there. You have to have some way to pay for it when you get there. You have to decide how much to buy. You have to worry if the car you might buy is too much of a gas hog and you can't afford to fuel it. Et cetera, et cetera.
Those folks are like three-year-olds. They know their parents take the car to a gas station every now and then and it seems somehow important to them and the thing goes ding-ding when you drive in, but that's about it.
FlyingPiggy
(3,383 posts)PatSeg
(47,399 posts)Whenever things aren't going the way they expected, they just rewrite the story to suit whatever is their current narrative. It doesn't have to be coherent or logical, because in their bizarre little world "anything goes". Just like magic!