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Oldem

(833 posts)
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 05:54 PM Mar 2021

Un oh. Racketeering?

Reuters reports: "Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has enlisted the help of Atlanta lawyer John Floyd, who wrote a national guide on prosecuting state racketeering cases. Floyd was hired recently to “provide help as needed” on matters involving racketeering, including the Trump investigation and other cases, said the source, who has direct knowledge of the situation."



"Floyd’s appointment signals that racketeering could feature prominently in the investigation."

[link:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-georgia-racketeering-exc/exclusive-georgia-prosecutor-probing-trump-taps-leading-racketeering-attorney-idUSKBN2AY0L0|

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Un oh. Racketeering? (Original Post) Oldem Mar 2021 OP
Donald t***p, Grifter and Racketeer Blue Owl Mar 2021 #1
ROFL malaise Mar 2021 #4
The Jerk Twerks - who knew. Marie Marie Mar 2021 #6
Ewww! smirkymonkey Mar 2021 #8
my reaction too! My eyes! LymphocyteLover Mar 2021 #44
Just watching that for too long makes my lower back hurt...and my eyes n/t rainin Mar 2021 #14
Yup Fat Donny will do that to ya... Blue Owl Mar 2021 #16
Oh my, I spit my coffee from seeing that LOL 😂 Ziggysmom Mar 2021 #19
My, what lovely...kidneys...you have there. Are they natural? nt spooky3 Mar 2021 #23
That Image Is Funny As Hell COL Mustard Mar 2021 #41
Dude! GB_RN Mar 2021 #43
And racketeering charges tend to flip the lower echelon. marble falls Mar 2021 #2
Flippers unite! Oldem Mar 2021 #3
Sounds good empedocles Mar 2021 #10
Works for me! calimary Mar 2021 #12
I like it! (nt) Paladin Mar 2021 #5
Re GA, who would he be racketeering with? Why would racketeering "feature prominently"? ancianita Mar 2021 #7
I'm not a lawyer, either, but maybe this will shed some light. Oldem Mar 2021 #15
Thank you. Let's hope their collective experience gets a conviction. ancianita Mar 2021 #18
Thank you for this, so... BlueLucy Mar 2021 #21
You're welcome. I don't know what DA Willis has or thinks she has. Oldem Mar 2021 #26
Fix it Georgia! Iris Mar 2021 #9
Ouch! That's gotta hurt. nt Oldem Mar 2021 #11
President 45-844702 Schmice3 Mar 2021 #13
YES!!!! PatrickforB Mar 2021 #17
Ha! Made me laugh masmdu Mar 2021 #24
LOL. /nt spudspud Mar 2021 #25
it's a very good sign. triron Mar 2021 #20
Bring it! Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #22
It could happen in Fulton County. Not like the rest.............. UGADawg Mar 2021 #27
Voir dire could tell the whole story. nt Oldem Mar 2021 #28
Fed or State charges??? Politicalgolfer Mar 2021 #29
Here is the Georgia procedure. Oldem Mar 2021 #30
That would make Graham a co-conspirator subject to equal punishment Qutzupalotl Mar 2021 #31
That would be extra sweet! And he was indeed trying to get Georgia to overturn the election. BComplex Mar 2021 #39
Oo. Nice. nt crickets Mar 2021 #42
The man who, quite literally, wrote the book on prosecuting racketeering. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh Mar 2021 #33
I expect a barrage of charges against prosecutors to descend as the case moves closer to court. live love laugh Mar 2021 #34
Jury tampering coming up too. You think Trump won't jury tamper?? Captain Zero Mar 2021 #35
Georgia Republicans have already begun the process for rigging the jury. Marcuse Mar 2021 #37
For years, my ongoing wish is to RICO the whole GOP. dmr Mar 2021 #36
knr triron Mar 2021 #38
RICO their asses! usaf-vet Mar 2021 #40
Thanks. triron Mar 2021 #45
Outstanding Handler Mar 2021 #46
Is #Leningrad Lindsey going to be worried also.......I really hope so, he made his infamous call.... turbinetree Mar 2021 #47

Ziggysmom

(3,406 posts)
19. Oh my, I spit my coffee from seeing that LOL 😂
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 07:14 PM
Mar 2021

Is ok, my daughter said she laughed too hard & peed a little!

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
41. That Image Is Funny As Hell
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:32 PM
Mar 2021

Unfortunately after watching that lard ass move around on my computer screen, I no longer need lunch. Then again, maybe that's fortunate...I could lose a few pounds!!!

GB_RN

(2,350 posts)
43. Dude!
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 03:00 PM
Mar 2021

What has been seen cannot be unseen. Thanks for the horror movie. Now I need to go pour bleach in my eyes. 😱😶?🌫️

calimary

(81,231 posts)
12. Works for me!
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 06:43 PM
Mar 2021

Like peeling an onion. Go for the outer layer(s) first. You're apt to get a few "singers" who'll sacrifice the bigger targets to save themselves.

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
7. Re GA, who would he be racketeering with? Why would racketeering "feature prominently"?
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 06:29 PM
Mar 2021

I wouldn't be assuming any racketeering charge is involved over this.

I'm no lawyer, but it seems easier to "provide help as needed," and just indict him on a straight up election fraud charge.


Oldem

(833 posts)
15. I'm not a lawyer, either, but maybe this will shed some light.
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 06:53 PM
Mar 2021

"Racketeering is a legal term that refers to acts committed that are part of an ongoing criminal enterprise. The term is most commonly associated with the activities of organized crime organizations – such as the Mafia – but in recent years, it’s been applied to any sort of ongoing illegal practice or scheme."

https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/finance/racketeering/

Also, the lawyer Ms. Willis hired, John Floyd, made a big splash by helping to convict Atlanta principals and teachers cheated of cheating on state tests to help their students. Fani Wallis prosecuted the case and won guilty verdicts against eleven of twelve defendants. That case had nothing to do with business or financial racketeering as we commonly think of it.

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Public_Schools_cheating_scandal#Trial|

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
21. Thank you for this, so...
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 07:24 PM
Mar 2021

In this case are they gathering different forms of Trump trying to over throw the election?

Oldem

(833 posts)
26. You're welcome. I don't know what DA Willis has or thinks she has.
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 08:49 PM
Mar 2021

But I don't think she'd hire a specialist in a field she's already expert in just for the fun of it.

Oldem

(833 posts)
30. Here is the Georgia procedure.
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 09:46 PM
Mar 2021

"An independent board appointed by the governor exercises the pardon power, reporting annually to legislature, the governor, and the attorney general. The board issues pardons both with and without restoration of firearms rights. The board may also restore civil and political rights to persons with federal and out-of-state convictions. Eligibility for pardon five years after completion of sentence (including payment of court debt), restoration of rights after two years. People with sex offenses must wait 10 years. The board conducts a paper review, decides by majority vote, and issues a written decision. Pardon relieves all legal disabilities except public office, and it is effective to remove from the sex offender registry. However, it does not expunge the record, and a pardoned conviction may be used as a predicate. Pardons are frequent and the process regular: in recent years between 400 and 600 pardons and restorations have been granted each year, about 60% with firearms restoration."

Note the phrase "...except public office."

[link:https://ccresourcecenter.org/state-restoration-profiles/50-state-comparisoncharacteristics-of-pardon-authorities-2/|

Qutzupalotl

(14,307 posts)
31. That would make Graham a co-conspirator subject to equal punishment
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 11:13 PM
Mar 2021

since he advanced a component of the plot to overturn Georgia's election through coercion.

Good.

BComplex

(8,049 posts)
39. That would be extra sweet! And he was indeed trying to get Georgia to overturn the election.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 10:38 AM
Mar 2021

There was a witness to that call.

Response to Oldem (Original post)

live love laugh

(13,104 posts)
34. I expect a barrage of charges against prosecutors to descend as the case moves closer to court.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 04:30 AM
Mar 2021

I think it’ll be even harder to prosecute higher level Republicans in GA than NY.

Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
37. Georgia Republicans have already begun the process for rigging the jury.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:32 AM
Mar 2021
Georgia state Republicans introduced a resolution Thursday that seeks to change the Georgia State Constitution to mandate the use of state-wide grand juries in prosecutions involving election crimes. The move would force prosecutors to draw more grand jurors from predominantly Republican rural areas of the state.
[link:https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/georgia-republicans-are-trying-to-change-the-rules-for-fani-williss-prosecution-of-donald-trump-for-election-crimes/|

dmr

(28,347 posts)
36. For years, my ongoing wish is to RICO the whole GOP.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:23 AM
Mar 2021

Take each and every crook down: from the dingleberries to the main crooked assholes who have always been untouchable.

That has been my wishful dream.

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