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pbmus

(12,422 posts)
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 11:46 AM Mar 2021

Thanks to 'Citizens United' and the Reich wing SCOTUS




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14 general elections, where in this world is a term limits bill????? It’s no wonder the people’s business doesn’t get done with professional politicians controlling the senate...
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Thanks to 'Citizens United' and the Reich wing SCOTUS (Original Post) pbmus Mar 2021 OP
He's served two terms in the Senate not 14 onenote Mar 2021 #1
Professional politicians do not belong in government. pbmus Mar 2021 #2
We have a lot of good Democrats who have also been in office a long time. LeftInTX Mar 2021 #6
We call them elections Claire Oh Nette Mar 2021 #3
Conservatives always bitch about people getting money from the government. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2021 #4
Term limits ... he switched jobs a lot JT45242 Mar 2021 #5
I don't believe in term limits. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #7

onenote

(42,799 posts)
1. He's served two terms in the Senate not 14
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:01 PM
Mar 2021

He served seven terms the House (all pre-dating Citizens United). And if there were term limits that prevented House members from serving more than 7 terms, over 60 Democrats serving in the House (including some I imagine you like) wouldn’t be able to run for re-election.

LeftInTX

(25,690 posts)
6. We have a lot of good Democrats who have also been in office a long time.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:23 PM
Mar 2021

I don't believe Blunt is retiring because of Citizens United.

Citizens United and the Repuke US Supreme Court certainly have helped get more of them in, but not out.
I think Blunt doesn't want to be in the QAnon Party.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
3. We call them elections
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:13 PM
Mar 2021

There are term limits built into the offices.
Representative = two years.
Governors and Presidents = four years.
Senators = six years

If people don't like their representatives, vote for new ones. THat's why we have elections. I don't like him, but Mitch McConnell keeps winning his district (although I suspect not last time). THey're not out to prevent GOP dynasties....

Only after FDR won four straight elections and then died did the GOP decide two terms was enough. They've never had anyone who'd win three terms--Reagan, maybe--so they imposed limits. I firmly believe President Obama would have own a third term had he been allowed to run.

Institutional knowledge is lost if we limit representatives to four or five or even six terms--12 years. The wisdom that comes from participating in crafting legislation and compromise matters. Otherwise, we'll be over run with inexperience.

It benefits no one to force out an effective representative or senator.

YMMV

4. Conservatives always bitch about people getting money from the government.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:14 PM
Mar 2021

Other people, that is.

The late Senator John McCain was always complaining about "pork" in government bills. Yet he was born in a military hospital, attended elementary and high school wherever his father was assigned (I know this from personal experience), went to West Point, served in the Navy and finally in the Senate. I don't know if he ever held a job in the civilian sector.

Term limits and income limits sound good on the surface, but there has to be institutional knowledge to know how the body works. I'm more interested in getting their salaries down. So they wouldn't have to directly vote on their salaries, Congress has tied their income to the SCOTUS justices. When they give the justices a raise, they're also giving themselves a raise, and no ones the wiser.

JT45242

(2,311 posts)
5. Term limits ... he switched jobs a lot
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:16 PM
Mar 2021

With the exception of the US House of Reps he never held any post for more than a typical term limit (which in most places are 2 terms or 8 years) according to his wikipedia page. We was county clerk for 12 years but he started in the early 1970s before term limits were a big deal.

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The best term limit is an educated an educated and energized voting population that votes against represntatives who do not adequately represent them.

If people would vote out clowns who do not promote the generate welfare and insurance domestic tranquility etc., then term limits would not be needed and the good ones could continue to do work.

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