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Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:02 PM Mar 2021

A SWAT Team Destroyed This Innocent Woman's House While Chasing a Fugitive. The City Refuses To Pay.



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THREAD: A SWAT team decimated this innocent woman's home while chasing a fugitive. The city says it's not their problem—and has refused to pay for any damages.

Let's talk about police accountability.

My latest @reason:

A SWAT Team Destroyed This Innocent Woman's House While Chasing a Fugitive. The City Refuses To Pay...
"I've lost everything," says Vicki Baker.
reason.com
2:27 PM · Mar 5, 2021


https://reason.com/2021/03/05/swat-team-destroyed-innocent-womans-house-while-chasing-fugitive-city-refuses-to-pay-fifth-amendment/


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THREAD: A SWAT team decimated this innocent woman's home while chasing a fugitive. The city says it's not their problem—and has refused to pay for any damages.

Let's talk about police accountability.

My latest @reason:

A SWAT Team Destroyed This Innocent Woman's House While Chasing a Fugitive. The City Refuses To Pay for Damages.
"I've lost everything," says Vicki Baker.
https://reason.com/2021/03/05/swat-team-destroyed-innocent-womans-house-while-chasing-fugitive-city-refuses-to-pay-fifth-amendment

The story: A man barricaded himself inside the home of 76-year-old Vicki Baker, whose daughter gave police the keys & a garage door opener.

Instead, agents used explosives to blow off the garage entry, and drove right on through the front door in an armored vehicle.

The city quickly told her that they don't owe her anything under the 5th Amendment & that she's not a victim.

"I've lost everything," she told me. She is battling cancer & was looking forward to retirement. So much for that.

This story is a microcosm for the debate around police reform.

There's the SWAT response itself, which was more suited to a battlefield. There's the obvious constitutional violation. And yet again, there is no accountability.

This isn't the first time this has happened, & it likely won't be the last. In 2015, a SWAT team totaled an innocent family's $580k home in Colorado while chasing a shoplifting suspect.

The city gave them $5,000. SCOTUS declined to hear the case.

A SWAT Team Blew Up This Family's House While Chasing a Shoplifter. The Supreme Court Won't Hear the Case.
And no, it wasn't the shoplifter's home.
https://reason.com/2020/06/29/swat-team-police-leo-lech-supreme-court-5th-amendment

This isn't even a commentary on police brutality.

Good: Police keeping the public safe

Bad: Police expecting the public to just shut up & take it when their tactics leave the little guy thousands of dollars in debt.
Baker is suing.

She says she'd primarily like to see courts state the obvious: that the gov't shouldn't be able to blow up your house & cite "police power" to get off the hook.

Dare to dream.
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A SWAT Team Destroyed This Innocent Woman's House While Chasing a Fugitive. The City Refuses To Pay. (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 2021 OP
Something similar. no_hypocrisy Mar 2021 #1
Something similar happened in a Denver suburb DavidDvorkin Mar 2021 #2
How does insurance work with this? Ilsa Mar 2021 #3
Insurance refused to cover. Nevilledog Mar 2021 #4
I wonder how the mortgage holder is handling their collateral Ilsa Mar 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author flying_wahini Mar 2021 #5
I have a neighbor with a Trump 2024 sign in his yard that could use some bruising like this. flying_wahini Mar 2021 #6
"A SWAT Team Blew Up This Family's House While Chasing a Shoplifter"? PatSeg Mar 2021 #8
Kick dalton99a Mar 2021 #9
That's the house from the other case....the shoplifter one. Nevilledog Mar 2021 #11
PrOtEcTiNg AnD sErViNg WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #10

no_hypocrisy

(46,094 posts)
1. Something similar.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:17 PM
Mar 2021

While I was at work, the police broke down my locked front door. They were on an investigation for someone yelling for help. They saw a light in my window and had to confirm I wasn’t dead. Police and town wouldn’t pay — and it was a vintage 19th century door. The best thing I could get was to get a council member tell the police to have a squad car outside my house until the door was secured again.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
3. How does insurance work with this?
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:41 PM
Mar 2021

Does homeowners insurance have to restore the home? Could they then sue the city or individuals responsible for the damage?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
7. I wonder how the mortgage holder is handling their collateral
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:47 PM
Mar 2021

being destroyed? Of course, with the elderly woman, her mortgage was probably already paid. Maybe defaulting, if there isn't much equity, is the way to go to get the banks involved.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

flying_wahini

(6,593 posts)
6. I have a neighbor with a Trump 2024 sign in his yard that could use some bruising like this.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:46 PM
Mar 2021

Tell the city ‘see you in court.’
and get an extra million for emotional distress.

PatSeg

(47,420 posts)
8. "A SWAT Team Blew Up This Family's House While Chasing a Shoplifter"?
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:59 PM
Mar 2021

For a shoplifter? That is quite an overreaction and a very dangerous one as well. The over militarization of our police is terrifying. It feels like some police want the opportunity to play with explosives.

Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
11. That's the house from the other case....the shoplifter one.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:06 PM
Mar 2021

For some reason it won't let me download the one from this case shown in the article.

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