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(31,008 posts)They must think of their country as just a piece of real estate. I guess thats why they voted for a real estate scammer
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)There are those who regularly read Mad Magazine, and those who did not.
Those who read it can be found on places like DU. Those who did not are fond of Trump rallies.
That's my observation.
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)Cheezoholic
(2,016 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,815 posts)speak easy
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CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)calimary
(81,210 posts)Full open, it depicted them coming down one of those rollaway staircases used for airplane passengers. Lots of fans and cameras and big round lights surrounding them. Then you folded it up and noticed that those big round lights had been strategically placed. Cuz the Fab Four were suddenly bald!
calimary
(81,210 posts)OMG! Both takes!
What a great find!
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)she got stuck and all of a sudden, she went flying and the accompanying sound was perfect: "POIT!"
Codifer
(545 posts)and The "Fabulous Fury Freak Brothers", "Freewheelin Franklin", Fat Freddys Cat" and. most especially, "Idyll".
On edit: That should be "Furry" vice "Fury"...... makes more sense considering the decade.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)Fat Freddy Scat?
Codifer
(545 posts)the cat would hide his scat. One panel had Fat Freddy looking in the usual spots (bed, shoes etc) while the cat was gloating about shitting in a planter hanging high on the wall. Freddy could smell it but could never find it.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)Go to page two. The top of the page reads: "Fat Freddy Scat's Little Known Events In Cat History"
marie999
(3,334 posts)It was a picture of a VW Beatle floating on a pond. The caption was, "If Ted Kennedy drove a Volkswagen, he'd be president today.".
Codifer
(545 posts)(IMO) in National Lampoon was "Idyl" (yeah, only one "L" by Jeff Jones. It is well worth googling.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)KS Toronado
(17,198 posts)After the service didn't buy as many.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)It was actually quite a radical mag, especially geared towards young people. Mostly boys I'd say. If I'm allowed to say that.
It kind of gave me permission to think more radically. Also to not worship celebrity, movie stars, etc. The way those artists made them look like idiots. As every other magazine DID worship celebrity.
soldierant
(6,846 posts)the "usual gang of idiots" was all male. But there was always plenty a young woman could appreciate. Where else could the progressive women in my generation have come from?
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)I guess i had my own prejudices as a boy too. I never saw a girl with one, or talk about it like I used to do with my male friends, so I just assumed it was one of those things that girls just didn't like or want to participate in. Like hockey.
We'd bring them to school and share it with friends and have a good laugh. But I forget how there really wasn't any other more gender balanced humour rags back then. The National Lampoon was pretty testosterone driven magazine too.
wnylib
(21,428 posts)told me about Mad Magazine when we were 11.
We were also fans of the Smothers Brothers.
I think there was less sharing of ideas between boys and girls then, but it doesn't mean girls were not discussing things among ourselves.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)And I based all my opinions of girls watching my two older sisters, and their friends. There were very strict definitions of what boys were to like, and what girls were to like. I just went along with it then, I was young, I didn't know any better.
And I lived in a very conservative home. In fact I voted Conservative, here in Canada, in my first election when I was 18 and so excited to vote for the first time. I had no political education. There was no internet of course. And only voted for the party that my Dad assured me was the proper choice. I never voted for them again.
I've gone through a lot of "evolving" over the decades.
wnylib
(21,428 posts)political back then, first on civil rights, then Vietnam. My oldest brother was conservative. The one closest to my age was radical.
ShazzieB
(16,368 posts)I didn't know too many other kids who were concerned about the issues of the day. At least they didn't talk about if they were.
College brought out that side in a lot of people, including me. High school (where I lived) was all who was dating whom, which team was going to win the football game on Friday night, and trying to copy the "popular" girls' clothes, makeup, and hair in the hopes of becoming one of them. It...sucked.
wnylib
(21,428 posts)There wasn't a lot of political activism in my school. Most kids fell into the pattern you described. But we were all aware of what was going on nationally with the civil rights marches and Vietnam. We talked about it among ourselves. Some kids wore political buttons to school during the 1964 presidential campaign. Popular music began to reflect the issues as far back as Peter, Paul, and Mary with Blowin' in the Wind in the 1950s. In 1966, there was Janis Ian with Society's Child. At my senior prom there was an interracial couple who had not been previously dating. They went as a couple to make a social/political statement.
In 10th grade, when we studied ballad poetry in English class, the teacher gave us an assignment to write a ballad. I wrote about a man killed in Vietnam. We had to read them to the class and mine got applause, not because it was good (it was pretty mediocre), but because of the topic.
Some girls talked about marrying their boyfriends after graduation to keep them out of the draft. (A few actually did it.) One guy that I dated had researched the age of marriage without parental consent and suggested running off to another state to elope after he dropped out of college and lost his draft deferment. I was still a high school junior. When I didn't do it, he married another girl soon afterward.
Then there was the girl in my classes who was a very active Young Republican.
The kids about 2 years behind me were more active in both civil rights and Vietnam protests.
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)I also helped write an "underground" newsletter that we sold on the sidewalks around the school for a nickel a copy. (We weren't allowed to SELL them on school grounds, so we gave most of them away in the halls later, but the nickels helped us pay for printing.)
I wasn't like most girls in my high school, though. Most of them, however, turned out to be right-wingers.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)my mom read it when she was a teen in the late 50's.
I guess I wasn't old enough to realize that it was mainly meant to appeal to boys.
electric_blue68
(14,869 posts)My dad too. But she was even more so, and I was around her much more.
And I loved MAD Magazine, too!
soldierant
(6,846 posts)As a widow who was the sole support of me and her mother, she knew as much about injustice as a white person could likely learn in the 50's and 60's.
I was really thinking of kids who didn't have radicalized mothers.
electric_blue68
(14,869 posts)My mom a first generation Greek-American was an amazing woman, with some amazing experiences in her earlier life including being very cognizant of racism Southern and Northern.
She had a sports acquaintance in HS. My mom was a tennis player, her acquaintance who was black was a runner. It's possible that since my mom also played basketball in HS perhaps her runner pal also was on the team.
Anyway she saw on TV (while I was yet not watching TV News) the Bull Conner response to Civil Rights peaceful protesters among other terrible things. But she'd also occasionally hear stuff from other moms in the park as I was running around playing.
Going out and about in NYC as a professional and non-job stuff she'd run into African-Americans here and there. Since she'd already had positive experience she saw them just going about their days just as she was.
As she learned history, and seeing the difference between being welcomed as a first generation American contrasted with a people who'd been here 300 - 400 years, and usually couldn't catch a break she decided this was very unfair.
So she started to point stuff out to me about down South, BUT also what was said to her from other white mother's in the park. So she raised me right. My dad didn't usually talk about it per se but I had some black friends from 5th grade on and they welcomed them into our house, and I could go over to their homes too. My dad was also one for fairness.
cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)after all these years.
AZ8theist
(5,453 posts)mitch96
(13,891 posts)Ol' Alfred E... Just put on wire frame spec's and it's me.. sad to say..
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AZ8theist
(5,453 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... not givimg a shit... eg, What, me worry?
mitch96
(13,891 posts)Looking like Alfred E, not reading MAD.......
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live love laugh
(13,100 posts)Oldem
(833 posts)I'd like to see the Turtle get up for a speech and all the Democrats rise and one and boo him till he gives up and sits down. Same every time Qraham, Qruz, QHawley speak.
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)soldierant
(6,846 posts)because gender came up earier, and Spy V Spy was the closest thing to genderless that there was in Mad.
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)2 completely idiotic characters that was very well done and extremely funny.
soldierant
(6,846 posts)fwvinson
(488 posts)MineralMan
(146,286 posts)That's why Mad Magazine was influential.
PutGramaOnThePhone
(236 posts)this is a revelation for me in thinking about satire, and to be able to communicate more concisely about it. And jibes so much with your earlier there are two kings of people... post
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Critical thinking is essential in today's world, I think.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Making Hollywood stars and politicians look like idiots.
Even Spy vs. Spy which was so popular. I think because the white spy was just as good/bad at his job as the black spy. One time one would win and then next the other. There was no "good" side and "bad" side.
And of course it was FUNNY.
live love laugh
(13,100 posts)riversedge
(70,186 posts)niyad
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Dreiser. But here I am anyway. May I stay, even Without reading the great Mad?????
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)It's a joke, see?
niyad
(113,257 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)jmowreader
(50,553 posts)If so, could you post the poem "A CBS-TV Summer Memo to the Smothered Brothers"?
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)DBoon
(22,354 posts)After 50 years, Mad left an indelible mental imprint
We live in the post-Mad era now
ShazzieB
(16,368 posts)And now here I am at DU.
Theory checks out.
electric_blue68
(14,869 posts)I remember the piece you posted!
I forget the overarching name for the reoccurring feature-
the one where they're comparing one group to another for the same behaviors.
Mad Mag's readership may have been mostly male but this particular version of this feature opened my eyes even more to sexism (maybe unintended on their part):
a male boss being loud to his underlings -"authoritative" "take charge", while a woman boss doing the same thing was called - "shrill", "bossy" .
Mad Mag made me a Mets fan!
I grew up in Washington Heights, and if you drew a straight line from our street into The Bronx it'd land a little south of Yankee Std. One of my Uncle's was a serious Baseball/Yankees fan, and my dad liked baseball, too. I liked sports so I became a Yankee fan, and went to games with my family.
Well, Mad Mag made so much fun of Manager Casey Stengel and his Mets that I started to feel sorry for them. My mom often in general terms rooted for the underdog.
That influenced me, as well. So over a long period of the me I became a Mets fan.
Now out of our city I root for either the Yanks, or Mets to get into the World's Series. When at home for the Subway's Series I got the Blue and Orange! 😁
The movie parodies were great. Spy vs Spy was clever.
There was a one-off where there were imaginary pills for ?socio-political-cultural events, conditions...
I'm not sure if I'm putting these two things together correctly but there was a "bomb" pill and if you took too many you'd get "too high" and that was represented by a literal Mushroom on the horizon - representing a real Atomic Bomb.
oldsoftie
(12,530 posts)Especially the "special" editions.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)You apparently knew only smart people.
Truly.
oldsoftie
(12,530 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'm surprised. Seriously. The Second Wave was upending centuries of traditional roles. That threat to the very foundations of society was a huge source of RW anxiety. It's not incidental that men of all races could vote a half century before any woman.
Or that people are still lead to believe by male-dominated institutions (including non-white) that equality among men is far more threatening to white men than is equality of women. But gender-role anxiety is something most conservative and liberal men tend to have in common, to widely varying degrees of course.
But the result is that the movement for equality is incredibly more focused on race than on gender, even though women are over 50% of all Americans and all races. Equal pay for women would enrich all racial and ethnic groups, and notably America's children.
NameAlreadyTaken
(977 posts)niyad
(113,257 posts)visibility, and recs? And would you consider cross-posting in Women's Rights And Issues? Thanks in advance.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,451 posts)Could be I saw it years ago on some internet post, but 1968 would have been the time was I was avidly reading MAD, cover to cover. I particularly remember this caricature of the "super-patriot".
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)How did they know what Lindsay Graham would look like old in 68?
Mickju
(1,800 posts)When it was folded over it looked just like a Readers Digest except it was called "Readers Disgust." I thought it was the funniest thing I had ever seen.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)calimary
(81,210 posts)Drawn by Sergio Aragones (I think?).
LOVED it all! AND the usual gang of idiots!
mezame
(295 posts)Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... reads like H.L. Hunt ...
... and the rest of the filthy rich ...
Mickju
(1,800 posts)Lamar was spending a million dollars a year to keep the team going. A reporter asked his father, H.L., how long his son could keep that up. H.L. replied, "about a hundred years." Back then a million dollars was a lot more money than it is today. Of course the team ended up moving to Kansas City.
malaise
(268,921 posts)bald eagle telepathy. The eagle knew.
Bo Zarts
(25,393 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts). . .and of course Spy vs Spy. . .
LudwigPastorius
(9,136 posts)...speaking about things that don't change.
bucolic_frolic
(43,127 posts)Yup same as today
AllaN01Bear
(18,150 posts)that is all.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,732 posts)whatever the fuck we are.
virgdem
(2,124 posts)PatrickforB
(14,570 posts)Blast from the past!
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)TomWilm
(1,832 posts)... when I got this in my mailbox.
MAD has kept me for going sane for all those years since!
bdamomma
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it's a classic. I remember my older brother used to get that magazine, never appealed to me, a strange magazine. but i liked the covers.
Dr. Skull
(26 posts)I had to go to a friend's house to read MAD, and I remember reading this back then and feeling a little scared.
Darkstar53142
(71 posts)...a childhood friend lived across from a junkyard and found a box of old Mad Magazines.
We would read them from cover to cover. I had to crotch them when I brought them home like they were Playboys. Then I would have to sneak read them either at night with a flashlight or hidden in another magazine.
I'd have to say now that my entire life is based on the teachings of Mad Magazine.
LeftInTX
(25,245 posts)We were almost banned from the Smother's Brothers but they let us watch that one after we complained. (I think my parents didn't have anything else to watch anyway)
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... in a junk pile. One of the greatest treasures ever!
Rhiannon12866
(205,173 posts)My brother and I read them, too!
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Lokilooney
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90-percent
(6,829 posts)In High school art class in 1972, Missy Simon's dad was editor of cracked. I was socially retarded back then with a debilitating shyness problem, so I doubt I ever spoke to her more than twice the entire semester.
My 10 years older sister and 10 years older cousin read it. I remember all the fascinating artwork back then, and later on in the mid sixties also bought all the paperback re-issues with art by wallace wood, jack davis, norman mingo, Harvey kurtzman, will elder, etc.
My interest in Mad was overtaken by National Lampoon. Excellent and mature writing and illustration, plus the spin off into SNL. I saw the play Lemmings before snl was on tv and chevy chase, john belushi and jane curtan were some of the players I saw live.
Mad was real big on exposing madison avenue scams and other forms of acceptable corruption scams which continue almost unchecked to this day and a lot more excessive and predatory than fifty years ago!
And, as a fifty year Zappa fan, I was thrilled about this article;
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/294915475573332086/
-90% Jimmy
To quote DU'er Darkstar53142; "I'd have to say now that my entire life is based on the teachings of Mad Magazine."
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RocRizzo55
(980 posts)My parents didn't like me reading it, but my grandparents said that if it got me to read, it was good.
Little did they know, I guess that it added to my radical political tilt later on.
Oh, and Mad was one of the very few magazines that had no advertisements, until recently. Then they went out of business. So sad. It was a legend in its own time.
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)were all true American patriots and heroes, IMHO.
Talented, thoughtful, caring people, caring about the country and, especially, about its youth. I love that Mad ruined me for the Republican Party and its bullshit.
The Wizard
(12,541 posts)when I got hooked on Mad, The back cover had an ad for Salem cigarettes. It was an illustration of people sitting by a stream putting packs of Salem in the stream with the caption "Salem, don't inhale 'em."
malthaussen
(17,186 posts)In a parody of spaghetti westerns in Playboy I read 'way back in the seventies, after he wipes out an entire town, the hero says he loves the town -- loves the rocks, the trees, the buildings, but hates the people.
-- Mal
Buns_of_Fire
(17,174 posts)Mark: ...and you get in fights and shoot people because you believe in honor and justice and fighting for what's right, ain't that right, Paw?
Lucas: No, son, I believe in killing people.
malthaussen
(17,186 posts)MAD gets more prophetic every year.
One of my MAD memories is a strip they did 'way back in the Fifties sometime, with baking companies making their products smaller and smaller, and putting cardboard dividers in their packages, so they could sell the "same" product at the "same" price and still beat inflation. That one definitely came true, but the companies ended up raising their prices anyway.
-- Mal