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Uncle Joe

(58,635 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:51 PM Oct 2012

Whom do you believe won tonight's debate and why?


59 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Vice President Joe Biden
58 (98%)
Congressman Paul Ryan
1 (2%)
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Whom do you believe won tonight's debate and why? (Original Post) Uncle Joe Oct 2012 OP
Other. Democrats and the American people. DURHAM D Oct 2012 #1
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #17
Experience Chipper Chat Oct 2012 #2
Joe is a big fucking deal... nmbluesky Oct 2012 #3
+1000 DippyDem Oct 2012 #18
Well, wipe my ass and call me Biden nt Xipe Totec Oct 2012 #4
He made Ryan look like a schoolboy being scolded by his teacher n/t doc03 Oct 2012 #5
Ryan was waaaaay out of his league. liberalmuse Oct 2012 #6
Biden won on substance, credibility, experience, avebury Oct 2012 #7
Ryan sounded like a bull shit con-artist, like Romney does. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2012 #8
Because Joe schooled that little twerp. Melinda Oct 2012 #9
Because Ryan was doing nothing but reading his pre-rehearsed lines. onehandle Oct 2012 #10
Biden showed up the boy on EVERY count -- Sparkly Oct 2012 #11
Can you imagine Ryan as president? No? Me neither - not even many many years from now. sad sally Oct 2012 #12
Uncle Joe didn't let Lyin' Ryan get away with ANYTHING! meow2u3 Oct 2012 #13
Joe won it hands down rustydog Oct 2012 #14
are you kidding me? a reason Coexist Oct 2012 #15
Biden won on everything. He made Ryan look like a petulant child. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #16
Confidence and Truth. n/t Avalux Oct 2012 #19
And now put Ryan to bed Lifelong Protester Oct 2012 #20
Biden, Broken_Hero Oct 2012 #21
Biden- He spoke the truth. ellaydubya Oct 2012 #22
Biden.. ananda Oct 2012 #23
Funny to look at the votes. uppityperson Oct 2012 #24
Joe totally nailed Ryan jimlup Oct 2012 #25
Joe came off as sincere. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #26
Biden used his time well to emphasize Obama's commitment to the middle class, pacalo Oct 2012 #27
I have to say why? It was obvious. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #28
He knocked it out of the park Aerows Oct 2012 #29
Joe said who do you trust about SS and Medicare! B Calm Oct 2012 #30
Our Guy. Joe Biden left the little shit crawling. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #31
Thanks to everyone that posted or voted. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #32
curb stomped his ass!! PD Turk Oct 2012 #33
What is with the two ryan votes. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #34
Ryan brought talking points. Biden brought details. gkhouston Oct 2012 #35
Biden! amborin Oct 2012 #36
It was a good debate and Biden surely came out on top former-republican Oct 2012 #37
He crammed Ryans BS back down his throat upi402 Oct 2012 #38
Command of the issues... Blue_Roses Oct 2012 #39
Even though Ryan was weak on substance, his performance was stronger than Romney's last week aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #40
Ryan had hackneyed talking points. Biden had knowledge & experience & mopped the floor with Ryan. Sparky 1 Oct 2012 #41
liberallibral, belcffub A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #42
Biden took the kid to school... AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #43
+1 hrmjustin Oct 2012 #44
liberallibral has left the building ...after having a delicious slice of pizza. L0oniX Oct 2012 #45

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
6. Ryan was waaaaay out of his league.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:53 PM
Oct 2012

Joe looked and sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Ryan looked like he was reciting talking points he'd memorized.

avebury

(10,953 posts)
7. Biden won on substance, credibility, experience,
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:53 PM
Oct 2012

calling out Romney/Ryan on their lies, and his ability to connect with lower and middle class people.

Sparkly

(24,162 posts)
11. Biden showed up the boy on EVERY count --
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:55 PM
Oct 2012

Ryan showed himself to be the shallow, lying, scripted asshat he is.

Biden's position was the man who knows, who's done it, who calls out all the lies.

SO many incredible moments. I thought Biden did Democrats a world of good for many years to come!

meow2u3

(24,781 posts)
13. Uncle Joe didn't let Lyin' Ryan get away with ANYTHING!
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:56 PM
Oct 2012

As a matter of fact, he almost called Ryan a liar right to his face--in front of the whole country.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
14. Joe won it hands down
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:56 PM
Oct 2012

I sensed a turn when he wiped the smile off of Ryan's face about a half hour into the debate.
Then when Joe looked at the camera and asked: do you want to trust Obama and me or them...Killer!

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
15. are you kidding me? a reason
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:56 PM
Oct 2012

Economy? Biden.
Health care? Biden.
Foreign policy? Biden.
Tax cuts? Biden.
Jobs? Biden.
Military spending? Biden.
Afghanistan? Biden.

(copied/pasted from Kos because I have a celebratory drink in my hand)

Broken_Hero

(59,305 posts)
21. Biden,
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:59 PM
Oct 2012

He was to the point, didn't wander off into nonsense, and appealed to the middle class.

Ryan on the other hand came across as a well to do Republican who doesn't give a flying shit about anyone.

ananda

(28,933 posts)
23. Biden..
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:00 PM
Oct 2012

.. for smokin Ryan out on Syria.

When Ryan said that the Romney team would
send troops into Syria in the national interest,
that was it!

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
25. Joe totally nailed Ryan
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:03 PM
Oct 2012

He didn't pull his punches he went all in. People want the person they vote for to be passionate about their beliefs. Biden absolutely won on all fronts.

Ryan's canned catch stuff sounded dull and rehearsed.

pacalo

(24,722 posts)
27. Biden used his time well to emphasize Obama's commitment to the middle class,
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oct 2012

seniors, & to those in need. He was clearly more knowledgable & seasoned on foreign policy. All around, Biden's maturity & common sense won this debate for him. Ryan came across as wet behind the ears with a bag full of experimental ideas that surely had to have sounded scary to viewers who are more experienced in life, particularly on the Social Security & Medicare programs.

His most brilliant answer was to the question, how would his Catholic faith affect his view in regard to the country's abortion policy. He said that, as a Catholic, he believed that life began with conception but he could not impose his religious beliefs on a nation that included such a diverse range of religions with different beliefs than his.

Other than the fact that there was no time for Biden to fully address Ryan's lies on Obama's record, I'm very pleased with the debate.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
29. He knocked it out of the park
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:15 PM
Oct 2012

because he didn't let Ryan get away with lies. That's where Obama messed up the first time. He let Romney sit there and lie, and didn't bother to call him on it. Biden cut that off at the pass right at the beginning by bringing up well known falsehoods by Ryan (marathon time, etc).

Biden didn't pull punches, but was still a gentleman about it.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
35. Ryan brought talking points. Biden brought details.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:08 AM
Oct 2012

It was painfully obvious which candidate was better-qualified.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
36. Biden!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:15 AM
Oct 2012

Ryan is the male equivalent of Palin; just as snarky, catty, cunning adangerous and reprehensible.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
37. It was a good debate and Biden surely came out on top
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:15 AM
Oct 2012

but I hope his Libya comment doesn't come back and bite the administration in the ass.

There's better things he could have said to Ryan's comment about Benghazi.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
40. Even though Ryan was weak on substance, his performance was stronger than Romney's last week
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 04:07 AM
Oct 2012

Romney was good at posturing and Obama was lethargic and too affable, but if you analyze what he actually said, Romney didn't even do as well as Ryan did. Romney gave almost no details at all.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
45. liberallibral has left the building ...after having a delicious slice of pizza.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:35 PM
Oct 2012

Don't they know you can see who voted for what on these polls? Is belcffub next to taste the special pizza of the day?

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