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CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 06:43 PM Mar 2021

Poor Prince Charles is in a state of despair

I'm thinking Diana is in heaven laughing her ass off:

Buckingham Palace has yet to officially respond to the allegations made in the interview, but sources say the Queen, Prince Charles, and Prince William are very concerned by what Harry and Meghan revealed to what could be one of the biggest TV audiences in history. Palace aides had feared the interview would make them look out of touch, but sources say they have been shocked by the severity of the allegations. The various households will be locked in crisis meetings for most of Monday as they work out the next steps.

Both Harry and Meghan referenced Princess Diana repeatedly throughout the interview, and Meghan’s allegations that she was not supported as a new member of the royal family had eerie echoes of Diana’s circumstances; Meghan even said she relied on a friend of Diana’s as someone who would understand her situation. When Diana gave the Panorama interview 25 years ago, she shattered the fairy tale myth around the royal family and her marriage to Prince Charles, famously saying “there were three of us in the marriage so it was a bit crowded.”

The Oprah interview has once again called Charles’s reputation into question, with Harry revealing that his father had stopped taking his calls for a time, and that while they are now on speaking terms, “There’s a lot to work through there. I feel really let down because he’s been through something similar.”

After walking Meghan down the aisle during their wedding, and warmly welcoming her mother Doria Ragland into the royal fold, Charles enjoyed a surge in popularity and was genuinely thrilled to step in at the last minute when Meghan’s own father pulled out of the wedding for health reasons. But Harry became estranged from Charles over the couple’s plans for their future.

As Vanity Fair reported on Sunday, Harry was emailing his father to justify why he and Meghan had done the interview. Charles was said to be “in a state of despair” according to a friend.

“For Prince Harry to say that he felt let down by his father must have been a difficult thing to say and hard for Charles to hear,” Gristwood said. “Now, just at a time when by and large Charles had started to look like a more popular King than one would have guessed, here’s a major blow to his reputation. That his son felt let down by him. It’s hard to know if Harry is aware of the damage this has done. Did he actually intend to cast this damaging light on his father and his family? We don’t know.”

The palace is said to be ready to hit back after the interview, but they will take time to respond—and choose their words carefully.


https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/03/prince-harry-meghan-markle-interview-prince-charles-reaction?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=VF_CH_030821&utm_medium=email&bxid=5c65ae2724c17c67f819d055&cndid=37279594&hasha=234b900c2bbb166051b14a73f2831387&hashb=4ab5949013a6a01361c57ee9da73c567c73c032d&hashc=7bb1ac99b1398e6bc7b95661b48d978ce3a30eead1e85fdea4f6fc8e18e675ca&esrc=newsletteroverlay&mbid=mbid%3DCRMVYF012019&source=EDT_VYF_NEWSLETTER_0_COCKTAIL_HOUR_ZZ&utm_campaign=VF_CH_030821&utm_term=VYF_Cocktail_Hour

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Poor Prince Charles is in a state of despair (Original Post) CatWoman Mar 2021 OP
Poor thing... Mike Nelson Mar 2021 #1
I doubt very much if Diana was able to see what is going on, Bev54 Mar 2021 #2
Yes, I'm sure she'd be sad for everyone, especially her sons and their father. nt Hortensis Mar 2021 #4
oh calm down CatWoman Mar 2021 #6
Nobody is getting excited, not sure why so defensive Bev54 Mar 2021 #14
i see someone has checked her sense of humor at the door CatWoman Mar 2021 #29
The family doesn't need to strike back. It needs to try to make amends. brush Mar 2021 #3
The fact that the response Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #5
I remember reading about the queen's personal wealth back in the 80!s or 90's. displacedtexan Mar 2021 #12
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2021 #8
I am not wild over all my in laws but I don't tell people that questionseverything Mar 2021 #7
But you probably don't have in-laws make you feel like shit... brush Mar 2021 #9
So your inlaws are in a monarchy? FreeState Mar 2021 #16
Actually while it's not the millionaire/billionaire business m thought she was getting questionseverything Mar 2021 #20
Did your in-laws reject your child based on race? ZonkerHarris Mar 2021 #19
The pics i saw looked like he was welcomed questionseverything Mar 2021 #23
probably not the same effect if your child doesn't get a title or security detail. ZonkerHarris Mar 2021 #35
Of course he would have security, as would Megan when with Harry. Treefrog Mar 2021 #36
So you claim Harry and Meghan are lying? Because they said it. You say it's not true ZonkerHarris Mar 2021 #38
Feel free to research anything you want. Very easy to find this information. I'm not one to really Treefrog Mar 2021 #39
You need the research ZonkerHarris Mar 2021 #40
I've watched plenty though you couldn't pay me to watch that whole interview of two privileged Treefrog Mar 2021 #42
I knew you didn't watch the interview. It was obvious. ZonkerHarris Mar 2021 #46
Here is just one article explaining it. There are many of these if you care to look for them. Treefrog Mar 2021 #44
You did not include any article. So your arrogance is misplaced in this instance. ZonkerHarris Mar 2021 #45
Well, let me try again. I'm on a train at this moment so my internet is in and out. Treefrog Mar 2021 #47
In laws that worried more about the color of an unborn child than their paedophile son? HipChick Mar 2021 #31
A King Charles will be the end of the Commonwealth. roamer65 Mar 2021 #10
He won't be. He's one of the racist sources discussing Archie's skin tone Arazi Mar 2021 #30
I think you are right. roamer65 Mar 2021 #34
You know this? Good mates with the two of them, are you? Treefrog Mar 2021 #37
beauty RicROC Mar 2021 #11
Liz was quite pretty in her younger days. liberaltrucker Mar 2021 #13
Kate is beautiful questionseverything Mar 2021 #15
yes. RicROC Mar 2021 #18
Kate has always looked hideously aged.... HipChick Mar 2021 #32
'Prince' Harry RicROC Mar 2021 #21
Ginger hair runs in Diana's family. Talitha Mar 2021 #22
Harry takes after Prince Phillip in looks MustLoveBeagles Mar 2021 #25
I agree. musette_sf Mar 2021 #50
If that were the case it would have come out a long time ago. milestogo Mar 2021 #26
jmho area51 Mar 2021 #28
Phllip was a redhead. MicaelS Mar 2021 #41
.... CatWoman Mar 2021 #51
YES, YES, YES. MicaelS Mar 2021 #52
Prince Phillip was quite handsome. I think he's Danish and Greek. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2021 #27
Yes, he was very good looking. William was a real knockout when he was younger. Treefrog Mar 2021 #43
Well bdamomma Mar 2021 #17
Public opinion turned against them after Diana's death...they were forced to an about face... HipChick Mar 2021 #33
He's a dipshit. milestogo Mar 2021 #24
Yes, I think you've said that quite well. In some ways I feel sorry for him as he is certainly a pro Treefrog Mar 2021 #48
I don't think that's what will happen though. milestogo Mar 2021 #49

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
2. I doubt very much if Diana was able to see what is going on,
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 07:19 PM
Mar 2021

she would be laughing her ass off. She would be angry and hurting for her child, his wife and her grandchildren.

brush

(53,743 posts)
3. The family doesn't need to strike back. It needs to try to make amends.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 07:22 PM
Mar 2021

That would be the best PR possible but for some reason, I feel things like that always seems to escape them.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,457 posts)
5. The fact that the response
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 07:46 PM
Mar 2021

is characterized about how to "strike back", is pretty much the end of the Royals. An argument has been made that the Royals generate way more tourism income than they cost, but that will change if they get nasty. The problem for the UK government is that a LOT of the monarchy's existence is bound by law, so they simply can't toss them out. The "Crown" owns a LOT of property and collects royalties on its land's use.

For example:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/17/offshore-wind-auction-could-raise-millions-for-queen

The Queen’s property managers will this week set out terms for the world’s biggest offshore wind auction in a decade.

Industry experts expect the complex bidding process to raise record sums, which could increase energy bills and hand a windfall to the crown – potentially generating hundreds of millions for the Queen.

The Crown Estate, which manages the monarch’s property portfolio, holds exclusive rights to lease the seabed around the British Isles for wind and wave power. Its profits go to the Treasury, which then sends 25% back to the royal household in the form of the sovereign grant.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
12. I remember reading about the queen's personal wealth back in the 80!s or 90's.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 08:33 PM
Mar 2021

She was invested at the top tier of Shell Oil (North Sea drilling), and she was one of the first major investors in MapQuest & other computer based mapping/gps technology.
And the jewels,mproperty, and historical artifacts add up, too.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
7. I am not wild over all my in laws but I don't tell people that
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 07:59 PM
Mar 2021

And I certainly wouldn’t go on tv trashing them

brush

(53,743 posts)
9. But you probably don't have in-laws make you feel like shit...
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 08:10 PM
Mar 2021

because you're not lily white either, and don't defend you when media outlets call your new borne a chimp.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
16. So your inlaws are in a monarchy?
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:46 PM
Mar 2021

This is not apples an oranges unless your family has a “firm” running it. She did not trash the family she trashed the family business - two hugely different things.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
20. Actually while it's not the millionaire/billionaire business m thought she was getting
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:54 PM
Mar 2021

I did marry into a small family business, and if i had ever trashed that i would of been seen as ungrateful and dangerous to the survival of the family

If they wanted to leave they have that right, I personally would not of made it all public, but it would be a dull world if we were all the same

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
23. The pics i saw looked like he was welcomed
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 10:09 PM
Mar 2021

But

Every family has a pecking order and favorites

Long as there here I hope we get a couple percent of those millions with liz’s one time wealth tax

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
36. Of course he would have security, as would Megan when with Harry.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:19 PM
Mar 2021

His not being a prince had nothing to do with his color. There are very strict rules on that. I keep seeing Archie described here as a grandson of the Queen. He is a great-grandson.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
39. Feel free to research anything you want. Very easy to find this information. I'm not one to really
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:54 PM
Mar 2021

keep up with the royals, but after all this hullaballoo I’ve been reading an awful lot about this. I don’t know who is lying, but I’m not inclined to believe anyone involved just at face value.

ZonkerHarris

(24,209 posts)
40. You need the research
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 02:46 PM
Mar 2021

I don't think you watched the interview or any clips from it.
Your statements seem uninformed to the current event being discussed

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
42. I've watched plenty though you couldn't pay me to watch that whole interview of two privileged
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 03:12 PM
Mar 2021

people whining how bad they have it. So I assume you have no idea about royal protocol or you wouldn’t be stooping to personal attacks. Believe what you want. He was never going to be a prince. Have a most lovely day!

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
44. Here is just one article explaining it. There are many of these if you care to look for them.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 03:24 PM
Mar 2021

Nothing whatever to do with his color.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
47. Well, let me try again. I'm on a train at this moment so my internet is in and out.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:17 PM
Mar 2021

Not sure why you feel the need to keep insulting me. Try BBC, try the Guardian, try the NYTimes. The issue is clearly stated in a letter patent by George V.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/08/why-meghan-harry-son-archie-denied-title-prince-mixed-race

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
31. In laws that worried more about the color of an unborn child than their paedophile son?
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 11:28 PM
Mar 2021

A child who would only be a quarter black at that?

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
10. A King Charles will be the end of the Commonwealth.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 08:20 PM
Mar 2021

If Prince William remains untarnished, he needs to ascend to the throne, bypassing Charles.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
30. He won't be. He's one of the racist sources discussing Archie's skin tone
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 11:11 PM
Mar 2021

There's real reasons the brothers have a massive rift

RicROC

(1,203 posts)
21. 'Prince' Harry
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:56 PM
Mar 2021

I wonder how long it will take a careful sleuth to find Harry's DNA, a hair, or whatever to determine that Prince Charles is not really Harry's biological father. That chauffeur of Diana's sure looks like a possibility, even though he denied it. William is bald; Harry is thinning in the back, well maybe he is Charles'.

One would think, though, two parents with recessive genes could create a Ginger. Not sure if Charles has those recessive genes.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,583 posts)
25. Harry takes after Prince Phillip in looks
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 10:14 PM
Mar 2021

I saw a side by side comparison photos and the resemblance is uncanny.

CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
51. ....
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 10:50 PM
Mar 2021
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Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
43. Yes, he was very good looking. William was a real knockout when he was younger.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 03:14 PM
Mar 2021

I think Kate is very nice-looking too, and their children are gorgeous.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
33. Public opinion turned against them after Diana's death...they were forced to an about face...
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 11:31 PM
Mar 2021

Same will happen here....Poor Charles may never get to take the throne

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
24. He's a dipshit.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 10:12 PM
Mar 2021

A whiny self-important asshole.

Yeah he's got the right attitude on climate change, but so what. He it out of touch with reality.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
48. Yes, I think you've said that quite well. In some ways I feel sorry for him as he is certainly a pro
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:20 PM
Mar 2021

product of his environment and family, but I think he should let William take the helm when the time comes. William and his family are very popular in England.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
49. I don't think that's what will happen though.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:10 PM
Mar 2021

Charles has always wanted to be king and he is next in line. It's unthinkable that they would skip over him. If Elizabeth dies or steps down, the crown will go to Charles.

And yes, William does seem like someone who could handle it, but that won't happen till Charles passes away or steps down. They don't pass over someone because he's a dipshit.

The whole thing is archaic. If they could modernize the monarchy in the right ways it could survive, but if they don't it will lose even more public support.

The royal family loves horses. The problem is they also approach marriage as if they were breeding horses. Its about getting the right breeding stock, not about love and happiness. People of Color have always been destined to be the subjects of the monarchy and not members of it. I don't think Harry cared or knew how much others would care.

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