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LiberalArkie

(15,708 posts)
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:13 AM Mar 2021

Entire staff of Nevada Democratic Party quits

NOT LONG AFTER Judith Whitmer won her election on Saturday to become chair of the Nevada Democratic Party, she got an email from the party’s executive director, Alana Mounce. The message from Mounce began with a note of congratulations, before getting to her main point.

She was quitting. So was every other employee. And so were all the consultants. And the staff would be taking severance checks with them, thank you very much.

On March 6, a coalition of progressive candidates backed by the local chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America took over the leadership of the Nevada Democratic Party, sweeping all five party leadership positions in a contested election that evening. Whitmer, who had been chair of the Clark County Democratic Party, was elected chair. The establishment had prepared for the loss, having recently moved $450,000 out of the party’s coffers and into the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee’s account. The DSCC will put the money toward the 2022 reelection bid of Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto, a vulnerable first-term Democrat.

While Whitmer’s opponents say she was planning to fire them anyway, Whitmer denies that claim. “I’ve been putting in the work,” Whitmer told The Intercept for the latest episode of Deconstructed. “What they just didn’t expect is that we got better and better at organizing and out-organizing them at every turn.”

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https://theintercept.com/2021/03/08/nevada-democratic-party-dsa/?utm_source=digg

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Entire staff of Nevada Democratic Party quits (Original Post) LiberalArkie Mar 2021 OP
Well, that's interesting... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #1
Wow - sounds like a major shift in direction. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #2
No. The new crew who got control are too far left for mainstream liberals. Hortensis Mar 2021 #4
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Enjoy your stay!! nt GP6971 Mar 2021 #19
... BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #25
Hey! GP6971 Mar 2021 #34
Dems saying the quiet part out loud - progressive Dems aren't welcome Arazi Mar 2021 #3
To be Democrat is to be progressive. Even our blue dog Hortensis Mar 2021 #21
So much for unity. Sound like sore losers .Alana Mounce is now employed by the DNC luckone Mar 2021 #5
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Speaking of money, you may want to send some to Hortensis Mar 2021 #13
Maybe they should return the money they swiped. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2021 #24
If we were in danger of being sued for libel, social media would be Hortensis Mar 2021 #31
So goodbye blue Nevada. 48656c6c6f20 Mar 2021 #7
Power's been decentralized for a long time. Dispersed to Hortensis Mar 2021 #20
sounds normal to me... stillcool Mar 2021 #8
The Intercept reporting and Rose Twitter promoting AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #9
+1... SidDithers Mar 2021 #10
DSA will turn Nevada red. comradebillyboy Mar 2021 #11
But there will be purity of ideology BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #15
Well, the party apparatus has publicly completely rejected a socialist takeover. Hortensis Mar 2021 #22
Quitting and paying out severance to yourself is a bad look. Ace Rothstein Mar 2021 #12
Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #14
Been an ex-fan of intercept for a number of years... msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #16
Well, it was a good run in NV while it lasted. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #17
Way too soon. Btw, it wouldn't hurt the nation to get a better look Hortensis Mar 2021 #27
The next presidential election is in three years. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #28
They won the vote. Voting still matters, right? jalan48 Mar 2021 #23
Interesting colsohlibgal Mar 2021 #26
Well, no Scandinavian nation is socialist. They're all capitalism-based Hortensis Mar 2021 #30
The end of Harry Reid's organization? Klaralven Mar 2021 #29
The point is, they did NOT "take over a swing state." They got control Hortensis Mar 2021 #33
Always gotta be organizing, people! WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #32

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. Wow - sounds like a major shift in direction.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:16 AM
Mar 2021

I guess those staffers felt they were too right-wing to be able to work with a progressive boss?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. No. The new crew who got control are too far left for mainstream liberals.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:26 AM
Mar 2021

Socialists are radicals, for heavens sakes, and IL-liberal in their intolerance of others and inability to cooperate to achieve common goals. That's not US. Beliefs, goals, methods, and principles are all very different.

The very idea that maybe the Democrats won't accept socialist leadership because they're conservative illustrates what I'm talking about.

Notably, Democrats are both the originators and the protectors of democratic government of, by and for the people. Whereas for socialists, forever a fringe movement, democratic rule by majority vote is a barrier to their goals, as the rejection by many socialists here of the right of local electorates to decide shows repeatedly.

How on earth did these people get control, anyway, when 12% voting for socialism would be a banner year? Did they by any chance lie about who they are and who Democrats are? Could they possibly have claimed they were The Real, True Us and the Democrats were corrupt corporatists and even, gasp, conservatives?

So, anyway. This event illustrates what I once tried to explain would happen to the whole party if the socialist fantasy taking it over -- and keeping control -- could magically come true. Eventually 80 million Democrats would reform as the same major liberal-dominated party under a different name, leaving the socialist fringe to wander the echoing halls of of this one. The lynchpin Democratic volunteers who turn out every election?

Btw, every political party is a whole lot more than the people with keys to the headquarters. How do Nevada's many and far-flung Democratic power centers feel about this upset? Did all the families who own things like multigenerational hardware stores and ranches turn socialist? Those who open their homes to fundraising parties? How about the lynchpin volunteers who turn out all over the state every election to elect Democrats to office?

Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. To be Democrat is to be progressive. Even our blue dog
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:30 PM
Mar 2021

conservatives tend to be, just typically with more limited goals.

But your statement points direction to a possible explanation for this situation. How do Democrats work with a faction who see 80 million progressive liberals and conservatives as the main barrier to their goals?

Response to LiberalArkie (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Speaking of money, you may want to send some to
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:53 AM
Mar 2021

help keep the lights on. Some of the NV Democratic Party's usual sources are going to be donating to Democratic causes and candidates via other routes.

This is going to be an interesting year to watch play out. My guess is the party's power blocs will try to look as if they accept this and work with it. As long as it works and isn't too destructive. Losing offices to Republican candidates as a result would not be so funny. Like first-term Democratic Senator Cortez Masto. And other Democrats running. Would they try to primary any of them?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,323 posts)
24. Maybe they should return the money they swiped.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:43 PM
Mar 2021

That’s some republican level chicanery. No wonder they were booted.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. If we were in danger of being sued for libel, social media would be
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 01:10 PM
Mar 2021

a lot more honest. But we're in no danger, and amost the only constraints are our own. These people you're calling thieves are Democrats, not enemies, though, so maybe you could whomp some up until you know?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Power's been decentralized for a long time. Dispersed to
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:15 PM
Mar 2021

many power centers, who will continue as they were. I'm guessing they'll start out mouthing support as usual but are already expecting to operate even more independent of the state offices than they have been.

Remember when the RNC elected a black chair? Most of their many power centers around the nation revolted at that and not only didn't even bother to pretend, most came out of their DC chambers and back rooms and loudly let the nation know the truth -- they were the party's power and the party's big decisionmakers and wouldn't be using the RNC.

Coming into the 2016 elections, turns out our DNC was broke and almost moribund from neglect and lack of leadership. Its main remaining duty was to put on the debates, but they were barely about to pay their utility bills. Our leading candidate for president had to tackle the emergency from outside.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
8. sounds normal to me...
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:39 AM
Mar 2021

the old guard is pissed, and the new guard isn't having any of it. It's human nature.

Whitmer’s predecessor, former Clark County Democratic Chair Donna West, said Whitmer did not try to bridge gaps within the party. She “does not listen to others’ opinions and really take those on board,” West said. “I found that working with her could be really difficult, that she doesn’t really collaborate well, and doesn’t work to build consensus.” West resigned last summer.

A former Nevada Democratic Party staffer, who requested anonymity to speak freely, told The Intercept they quit out of a belief that Whitmer hadn’t built relationships across the party as Clark County chair and was at times unfairly critical of the state Democratic Party. “I knew I couldn’t work with her and watch her destroy the years of hard work so many operatives put into making our state party the best state party in the country.”

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,003 posts)
9. The Intercept reporting and Rose Twitter promoting
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:39 AM
Mar 2021

I suspect there's a LOT more to the story than "Hurr Durr, establishment Dems!!!!!"

comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
11. DSA will turn Nevada red.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:47 AM
Mar 2021

The old Democratic party apparatus was very good at winning elections in Nevada. I doubt if the DSA folks can build a winning coalition since they see the Democratic party that needs to be purified rather than broadened.

That socialist label will repel all but the leftmost voters.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Well, the party apparatus has publicly completely rejected a socialist takeover.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:37 PM
Mar 2021

I'm sure putting a stick in the illiberal left/socialist spokes was a big reason for that.

Lol, regarding purified, remember the summer of Trump's nomination when the losing primary candidate, Sanders, insisted the Democratic Party had to halt our presidential and hundreds of other campaigns to concentrate on reforming our corrupt ways? Because that was our critical emergency and far more important.

I'm actually kind of looking forward to seeing how this plays out. They wouldn't try to primary NV's Democratic senator too, would they?

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msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
16. Been an ex-fan of intercept for a number of years...
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:55 AM
Mar 2021

I don't know, but I suspect there's more to this story...

but regardless, this hits me as alarming. I fear a very negative impact on election results. meaning severe losses.

I truly hope I'm wrong.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Way too soon. Btw, it wouldn't hurt the nation to get a better look
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:48 PM
Mar 2021

at these people. They've been hiding who they are in our skirts.

jalan48

(13,853 posts)
23. They won the vote. Voting still matters, right?
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:40 PM
Mar 2021

"On March 6, a coalition of progressive candidates backed by the local chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America took over the leadership of the Nevada Democratic Party, sweeping all five party leadership positions in a contested election..."

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
26. Interesting
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:47 PM
Mar 2021

I am as progressive as can be, I see it as a fairer sharing of the pie.

IMHO most of Scandinavia gets it right.

Everyday folks, even folks like me who are doing well, could be doing better.

Again, I’ve posted this before, but two books that do a good job of pointing this out are, “Democracy In Chains by “ Nancy MacLean, and “Dark Money” by Jane Mayer.




Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Well, no Scandinavian nation is socialist. They're all capitalism-based
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 01:04 PM
Mar 2021

economies, mostly liberal progressive socially, with some socialized government programs. The same as the U.S., but, handicapped by 70 million conservatives lead astray, so far we only have ONE socialized government program, the VA.

It's well within the ability of our current system to redistribute income much more fairly, while retaining the capitalist engine of prosperity, as the governments you admire do and as we have in the past. In fact, our party is committed to exactly that AGAIN. See below.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
29. The end of Harry Reid's organization?
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:54 PM
Mar 2021
How democratic socialists just took over a swing state

The result led to the immediate resignation of the current state party staff -- all of which were aligned with the establishment wing of the party long represented by former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/09/politics/nevada-bernie-sanders-democratic-socialists/index.html

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. The point is, they did NOT "take over a swing state." They got control
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 01:15 PM
Mar 2021

of the state party's organizational apparatus. That's entirely different from a majority of NV Democrats turning socialist sympathizers.

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