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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 02:31 PM Mar 2021

'If we'd had guns I guarantee we would have killed 100 politicians': Accused Oath Keeper threatened

to murder lawmakers in Capitol, court documents say

Thomas Caldwell, a participant in the January 6 riot at the Capitol, bragged about storming the building and told acquaintances he would have killed politicians if he could, according to new court filings reviewed by Insider.

The filings come in an argument from prosecutors to keep Caldwell in jail ahead of a criminal trial. He was arrested on several charges related to his participation in the insurrection.

"If we'd had guns I guarantee we would have killed 100 politicians," Caldwell wrote, according to messages prosecutors obtained. "They ran off and were spirited away through their underground tunnels like the rats they were."

Prosecutors said Caldwell is a member of the Oaf Creepers, an extremist militia, and organized an attack on Congress with them as then-President Donald Trump urged lawmakers not to certify the 2020 presidential election results in favor of now-President Joe Biden, who was duly elected.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/if-wed-had-guns-i-guarantee-we-would-have-killed-100-politicians-accused-oath-keeper-threatened-to-murder-lawmakers-in-capitol-court-documents-say/ar-BB1epuBh?li=BBnb7Kz

Not the brightest bulb.
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'If we'd had guns I guarantee we would have killed 100 politicians': Accused Oath Keeper threatened (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 OP
More proof that gun restriction laws work to save lives! Dustlawyer Mar 2021 #1
Indeed! Mickju Mar 2021 #17
"Oaf Creepers"! Glorfindel Mar 2021 #2
Have to agree. plimsoll Mar 2021 #10
Other than their guy didn't win. The Jungle 1 Mar 2021 #3
I had to do the Onion check. Marcuse Mar 2021 #4
The Oath Keepers are a terrorist organization... TheRealNorth Mar 2021 #5
Amen to that. They're killing people of color with impunity, and it has to stop. BComplex Mar 2021 #14
What good are stockpiles of guns and ammo if you forget to take them with you? Kaleva Mar 2021 #6
Dammit Karl! sarisataka Mar 2021 #7
LOL! A great majority of them just talk tough and luv to play army Kaleva Mar 2021 #8
It was a dress rehearsal. We won't be so lucky next time. Hekate Mar 2021 #13
And if we don't blink first maybe they won't be so lucky next time either. hadEnuf Mar 2021 #18
What makes you think that? Kaleva Mar 2021 #22
I hope this one doesn't get out on bail. And stays in prison for a long time. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #9
That statement alone "If we'd had guns..... killed 100 politicians," KS Toronado Mar 2021 #11
30 years in the slammer !!!!!!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #12
Oaf Creepers is a real thing? Iggo Mar 2021 #15
Appropriately named Mickju Mar 2021 #19
INSURRECTION. NOT "riot". Do, please, try to get it correct, ms n. niyad Mar 2021 #16
God, ellie Mar 2021 #20
I'm starting to feel bad for the other inmates nuxvomica Mar 2021 #21
And hopefully would spend the rest of your useless lives behind bars. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #23
Yes keithbvadu2 Mar 2021 #26
The media has such a hard time using word "terrorists" n/t hibbing Mar 2021 #24
Did Boebert and Greene have guns staged in their offices? keithbvadu2 Mar 2021 #25
Admission of guilt AND proves DC's gun laws are there for a good reason. paleotn Mar 2021 #27
Are they required to wear matching ones...? NHvet Mar 2021 #28
Big mouth, small brains. crickets Mar 2021 #29
:) Yikes. From what I've read, most criminals are this stupid and Hortensis Mar 2021 #30
 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
3. Other than their guy didn't win.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 02:42 PM
Mar 2021

Why do they hate America? We have a democracy and your guy lost big time. How about you shut up and figure out why America does not support your positions.
What is to terrible in America that you would resort to treason and terrorism.

TheRealNorth

(9,474 posts)
5. The Oath Keepers are a terrorist organization...
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 03:12 PM
Mar 2021

And we need to vette every law enforcement organization to remove any members or sympathizers.

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
14. Amen to that. They're killing people of color with impunity, and it has to stop.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:17 PM
Mar 2021

They are domestic terrorists, whether they're on the police force or not.

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
8. LOL! A great majority of them just talk tough and luv to play army
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 03:35 PM
Mar 2021

Paint ball enthusiasts on steroids.

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
22. What makes you think that?
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:49 PM
Mar 2021

About 300 Capitol rioters have been arrested so far and not one of those tough talking fakers have shot it out with the police or FBI. They all just surrendered without a fight.

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
11. That statement alone "If we'd had guns..... killed 100 politicians,"
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:15 PM
Mar 2021

Will get Caldwell the longest prison terms allowed by law for what he's charged with.
Bye Bye Tom see you in about 50 years.

Iggo

(47,546 posts)
15. Oaf Creepers is a real thing?
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:19 PM
Mar 2021

I thought it was just a derogatory term for big fat cosplaying white supremacist gunfucker.

Well, whaddaya know.

Learn something new every day.

Mickju

(1,800 posts)
19. Appropriately named
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:35 PM
Mar 2021

I thought it was a typo for a second! This guy should never see the light of day.

nuxvomica

(12,419 posts)
21. I'm starting to feel bad for the other inmates
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:45 PM
Mar 2021

Having to share a cell block with these bacciagalupes. I can picture Hannibal Lector saying, "Oaf Creepers are here? Oh, fuck!"

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
23. And hopefully would spend the rest of your useless lives behind bars.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:54 PM
Mar 2021

Yet one more reason to limit access to guns. If not the guns (2nd amendment) the ammo and the reloading supplies.

If THEY had managed to kill 100's in Congress I would hope that finally, that would force changes in the gun laws.

And before the attacks come my way. I have own guns since my 16 birthday. And I have held a concealed carry permit since early 1970 in several states.

I have owned and have used reloading equipment since the early 1970s.

For a short time, I was an NRA member when youth training was part of the programs.

At 70 I no longer agree with their radical political agenda.

keithbvadu2

(36,731 posts)
26. Yes
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 05:01 PM
Mar 2021

The NRA used to be for sportsmen, hunters and gun safety.

Now it has become an industry owned shill for the sale of more guns and the enrichment of its leaders.

keithbvadu2

(36,731 posts)
25. Did Boebert and Greene have guns staged in their offices?
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:57 PM
Mar 2021

Did Boebert and Greene have guns staged in their offices?

One of Trump's terrorists was going to shoot Pelosi 'in the friggin head'.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
27. Admission of guilt AND proves DC's gun laws are there for a good reason.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 05:11 PM
Mar 2021

A twofer!!! Now lock his dumb ass up until he is no more.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
29. Big mouth, small brains.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 05:45 PM
Mar 2021
Lawyers are fighting over whether Caldwell should be released from jail ahead of trial.


I think somebody has definitively ended the argument, and it wasn't the lawyers. Yikes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. :) Yikes. From what I've read, most criminals are this stupid and
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 06:31 PM
Mar 2021

are arrested about as fast. Nice that he's helping the courts decide he's a danger to others. He's only one of many to tend to.

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