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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,837 posts)
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 03:59 PM Mar 2021

Tesla is secretly building a giant 100 MW battery in Texas

Tesla is best known as an electric car company, but the firm also has a thriving business in battery storage—including utility-scale battery installations to support the electric grid. Bloomberg reports that Tesla is currently building a battery installation in Tesla CEO Elon Musk's new home state of Texas. The project is in Angleton, about an hour south of Houston.

Tesla hasn't publicized the project, which is operating under the name of an obscure Tesla subsidiary called Gambit Energy Storage LLC. When a Bloomberg photographer visited, a worker discouraged picture-taking and said the project was "secretive." The project appears to consist of 20 large banks of batteries that have been covered by white sheets.

A document on the city of Angleton's website provides some details about the project. It's listed as being a project of Plus Power but includes a photo of a Tesla battery cabinet. Plus Power counts two former Tesla employees among its executives. Plus confirmed to Bloomberg that it had started the project, then sold it to an undisclosed party.

The installation will use lithium iron phosphate batteries that are expected to last 10 to 20 years. The document says that it will generate around $1 million in property tax revenue for the city of Angleton. The site will be unmanned but will be remotely monitored at all times, according to the document.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/03/report-tesla-is-secretly-building-a-giant-100-mw-battery-in-texas/

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Tesla is secretly building a giant 100 MW battery in Texas (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 OP
I guess it's not secret any more. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #1
Is this a viable solution to Texas' energy woes? ananda Mar 2021 #2
Or a way for Elon Musk to grift off it? nt AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #3
How is making the Texas grid Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #5
It depends on "who" profits and by how much... ananda Mar 2021 #11
Musk doesn't own the power plant in Australia Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #16
We're talking about a person who wants to fly indentured servants to his Mars colony AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #14
You seem to be mistaking humor Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #15
Okay... AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #17
Yeah, it makes me wonder too. ananda Mar 2021 #10
It could help. Mass storage will be a key part of expanding renewables. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #4
Agreed Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #7
Yup. I'll bet many Texans wish they had off-grid capability. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #8
It is a start Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #6
Most likely it's a "proof of concept" facility. MineralMan Mar 2021 #9
i dont care for him since he left california. AllaN01Bear Mar 2021 #12
Texas' government is full of COVID deniers, so he fits in pretty well there... nt AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #18
A 100 MWatt-hour battery is tiny compared with Texas generation. Klaralven Mar 2021 #13

Miguelito Loveless

(4,457 posts)
16. Musk doesn't own the power plant in Australia
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 06:37 PM
Mar 2021

and he built it at cost to prove that it could in fact be done, and that the economics of renewables worked.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,997 posts)
14. We're talking about a person who wants to fly indentured servants to his Mars colony
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:47 PM
Mar 2021

I'm sure he's got a way to bilk Texas consumers.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,457 posts)
15. You seem to be mistaking humor
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 06:33 PM
Mar 2021

Last edited Wed Mar 10, 2021, 09:50 AM - Edit history (1)

and satire for fact. Musk's humor is not for everyone.

But, let's assume he is serious for half a second. How is that any different than the current economic system in the US? Indentured servitude and debtor's prison may have been outlawed de jure, but it pretty much exists de facto.

Clarification (Because in retrospect that is rife for obvious misinterpretation, my error entirely):

I do NOT endorse indentured servitude under any circumstances, even when we pretty it up and call it "college loans". We certainly need to eliminate wage slavery on this planet before we attempt to go to another.

That said, I don't care much about Musk's plans for Mars, since I am highly skeptical we are going to get there for about a dozen reasons, starting with humans being able to travel that distance in hard radiation and microgravity without adverse health effects. What I do care about is the technology being developed on Earth for his obsession which greatly improves our chances of meaningful transition away from oil/gas/coal.

Musk can be a royal dick, but that doesn't make his contributions to the electrification of transportation, battery tech, solar energy, aerospace, and satellite communications any less valuable.

My original response is snarky, and for that I apologize.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
9. Most likely it's a "proof of concept" facility.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:25 PM
Mar 2021

They build it, connect it to the grid and see how it works before scaling it up elsewhere.

They're not talking about it, because it's a test project.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
13. A 100 MWatt-hour battery is tiny compared with Texas generation.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 04:39 PM
Mar 2021
Back in 2017, we covered Tesla's construction of a massive battery installation in South Australia. At the time, the 100 MW system was the largest in the world. According to Bloomberg, the new Texas battery system will be at least as big.

In the long run, massive battery facilities will be needed to shift intermittent solar and wind power in time. But a lot of battery installations today don't have enough capacity to do much of this. Tesla's South Australia battery, for example, only had enough capacity to supply power for a little over an hour at its full 100 MW power level.


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