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Next they will come for Speedy Gonzalez.... (Original Post) hookaleft Mar 2021 OP
wish they would go after pepe the frog.. samnsara Mar 2021 #1
Is this what's troubling you, bunky? Cirque du So-What Mar 2021 #2
Can't eat, can't sleep hookaleft Mar 2021 #3
Fine by me but shitcan that creepy skunk first! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2021 #4
Pepe stinks and Speedy overstayed his visa. The Jungle 1 Mar 2021 #5
Are we implying Speedy is undocumented? Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #7
Yes Speedy is an undocumented American. The Jungle 1 Mar 2021 #11
Well, kind of silly as we are discussing a fictional, anthropomorphic, talking mouse Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #18
Not what my republican friend said The Jungle 1 Mar 2021 #27
Bruh..... not funny. NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #12
"They" lol WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #6
Speedy isn't a negative stereotype. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2021 #8
Oh I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people on mob Twitter that could find some offense. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #13
The offensive part of Speedy's cartoons wasn't really Speedy himself, but the other mice. BlueStater Mar 2021 #9
siesta time rampartc Mar 2021 #17
Johnny Bravo is a serial harasser who veers into stalker behavior at times Bucky Mar 2021 #28
they aready did , along time ago. AllaN01Bear Mar 2021 #10
Actually it was brought to my attention just yesterday that Time Warner did pull it in 1999 pecosbob Mar 2021 #14
Yeah, I remember at least a decade ago, if not longer, Americans of Hispanic nattyice Mar 2021 #20
Correct. Dr. Strange Mar 2021 #22
I'm on a Democratic website saying I don't care about racism!!!! AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #15
Important post greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #16
It is a real bummer that the blantant bigotry of the past fed to us and conditioning us is so LizBeth Mar 2021 #19
It's incredibly annoying ismnotwasm Mar 2021 #21
Right. While being told "we being too sensitive"... Lol, it is all good. So funny. Im thinking Kill LizBeth Mar 2021 #24
Well, gosh. Isn't this thread interesting! Iggo Mar 2021 #23
the Frito Bandito should be arrested however IcyPeas Mar 2021 #25
Speedy Is A Different Matter ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #26
Hong Kong Fuey too Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #29

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,975 posts)
4. Fine by me but shitcan that creepy skunk first!
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 10:05 AM
Mar 2021

Even when I was a kid in the '60's I loathed him and felt sorry for the unwilling cat he forced his gross attentions on.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,460 posts)
7. Are we implying Speedy is undocumented?
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 10:13 AM
Mar 2021


I think Speedy is fine as long as they portray him differently. Pepe le Pew is irredeemable.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,460 posts)
18. Well, kind of silly as we are discussing a fictional, anthropomorphic, talking mouse
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 12:16 PM
Mar 2021

but, upon such things Disney made billions, so I'll take a stab at his status.

Given that Speedy was "created" (i.e. born) at the Termite Terrace animation building, on the Warner Brother's (and the Warner sister, Dot) studio lot in 1953, that would make him a citizen. His parents were Friz Freleng, Hawley Pratt and Mel Blanc.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
9. The offensive part of Speedy's cartoons wasn't really Speedy himself, but the other mice.
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 10:17 AM
Mar 2021

Last edited Wed Mar 10, 2021, 03:20 PM - Edit history (1)

They embodied the racist “lazy Mexican” stereotype. I never got that stereotype either, since Mexican immigrants seem like some of the hardest working people around. Where did it come from?

Anyway, the most racist part about Speedy himself was probably that he was voiced by a white man, Mel Blanc, using a comically over-the-top Spanish accent. In all his recent appearances, he’s actually been voiced by a Latino, neutralizing that controversial aspect of him.

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
28. Johnny Bravo is a serial harasser who veers into stalker behavior at times
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 04:17 PM
Mar 2021

Grover teaches kids to experiment with nudism

pecosbob

(7,537 posts)
14. Actually it was brought to my attention just yesterday that Time Warner did pull it in 1999
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 10:59 AM
Mar 2021

Fans, Hispanics in particular lobbied for it's return and T-W brought it back in it's original form with a new disclaimer preceeding it. LULAC even lobbied for it's return.

nattyice

(331 posts)
20. Yeah, I remember at least a decade ago, if not longer, Americans of Hispanic
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 01:01 PM
Mar 2021

Origins absolutely loved Speedy. They were shocked and disappointed when he was pulled for his portrayal of Mexicans.

Dr. Strange

(25,919 posts)
22. Correct.
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 02:06 PM
Mar 2021

It wasn't the Hispanic community that found him offensive. They loved him.

It was the 90s Karens that were offended.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
19. It is a real bummer that the blantant bigotry of the past fed to us and conditioning us is so
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 12:50 PM
Mar 2021

obvious today. For those of us as children, having watched Pepe or John Wayne putting a grown woman over his knee hitting her and cringing uncomfortably not quite sure what we were watching and why it was ok to treat certain groups of people in this manner, even for entertainment and laughs, not such a big deal seeing the images disappear.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
21. It's incredibly annoying
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 01:05 PM
Mar 2021

Fuck that cartoon.

Fuck these cartoons as well. Oh excuse me, “amine” which is....Japanese cartoons

That’s when a 700-year-old demon with the body of a young girl who, somehow, finds herself in a sexually compromising position. Yep.

Historically, the trope has referred to otherworldly spirits like Koenma from Yu Yu Hakusho who, although he’s 700, looks like a toddler (complete with a pacifier). There’s also classics like the badass fighter Lady Kayura, whose hundreds-year-old lifespan isn’t apparent with her 12-year-old looks. It’s not always sexual. And it’s not always young girls. But lately, there’s been a lot of that, and oh man is it gross.

Now, there are, for example, childlike goddesses who are literally referred to as “loli big boobs”—I see you

https://kotaku.com/come-on-anime-1820848313

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
24. Right. While being told "we being too sensitive"... Lol, it is all good. So funny. Im thinking Kill
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 03:21 PM
Mar 2021

Bill girls night to be had. I got my shots, spring is coming. We can start gathering. I am feeling that energy. I am telling you, all kind of incredible is going on, in a time women are being rejected and scolded, a finger wagged, because they have voice. Talk about fuggin cancel culture.

It is all good.

Someone is talking about an "amorous" Frenchman like that is a reason. Lets talk about their sexist culture.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
26. Speedy Is A Different Matter
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 04:13 PM
Mar 2021

Yes, there are stereotypes, but more like old west, or 19th century southwest Texas style.
And, Speedy always wins! On top of that, it's usually because he outsmarts the cat.
Because of Speedy's continual success, it's much less offensive & far less creepy than a skunk that doesn't know what "no" means.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
29. Hong Kong Fuey too
Wed Mar 10, 2021, 04:19 PM
Mar 2021

These were incredibly racist cartoons, even for back then and they contributed to attitudes that are still a problem today. Nothing wrong with recognizing how bad they were and acknowledging that they probably shouldn't be accepted today.

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