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Digital Artwork Sells for $69.3M (Original Post) FelineOverlord Mar 2021 OP
They better convert it to PNG pronto! blugbox Mar 2021 #1
That'll cost another 50 mil intrepidity Mar 2021 #2
I'll do it for bargain basement prices blugbox Mar 2021 #3
Pretty funny. I just downloaded it for far less than $69 million. Goodheart Mar 2021 #4
People will need a Certificate of Authenticity for it to be official. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2021 #6
The NFT is the manifestation of authenticity Celerity Mar 2021 #7
What a pitch person. I still want my art on the wall, not in a digital file though. brush Mar 2021 #12
Durn. And here i was on the verge of starting a whole new company Buns_of_Fire Mar 2021 #22
Wonder what it'll be worth when that technology is outdated? brush Mar 2021 #5
My wife and I buy art to support artists. hunter Mar 2021 #9
They sound like art lovers as well as artists. brush Mar 2021 #11
My mom can do digital art and sell it. My dad understands digital art but prefers paper. hunter Mar 2021 #16
Bitcoin is stupid as well. hunter Mar 2021 #8
blockchain is here to stay for a long time, and no, BTC is neither 'stupid' nor anything like tulips Celerity Mar 2021 #13
Bitcoins are just bits. hunter Mar 2021 #17
'Anyone can make them.' You are talking about mining new BTC Celerity Mar 2021 #26
More power to him edhopper Mar 2021 #10
It is not a PDF file, it is an NFT that is verifiable via the blockchain, a vast difference. Celerity Mar 2021 #15
No its not edhopper Mar 2021 #18
Oh, us luddites get that, but we're not so luddite-y that we don't know... brush Mar 2021 #19
With you brush edhopper Mar 2021 #23
Proof positive some people have too much money. Vinca Mar 2021 #14
This!!!! Peacetrain Mar 2021 #20
Actually, it's just legalized money laundering. Arthur_Frain Mar 2021 #21
This edhopper Mar 2021 #24
Ageed. This digital art, and currrency to a degree, sounds like what... brush Mar 2021 #25

blugbox

(955 posts)
1. They better convert it to PNG pronto!
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 03:00 PM
Mar 2021

JPG is a "lossy" compression format, and might not be the best long term format to use for such a high priced image...

blugbox

(955 posts)
3. I'll do it for bargain basement prices
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 03:08 PM
Mar 2021

I'll do it for 15 mil... you might even be able to talk me down to 10...

Hell, I'll even make it read-only

Buns_of_Fire

(19,113 posts)
6. People will need a Certificate of Authenticity for it to be official.
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 03:29 PM
Mar 2021

I'm prepared to print one off for the First Edition Exclusive price of only $2500 (buy now and avoid future regret!).

Bad artists copy. Good artists steal. ~ Picasso

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
12. What a pitch person. I still want my art on the wall, not in a digital file though.
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 05:51 PM
Mar 2021

You know, real, one-of-a-kind out of paint on canvas or board. Or carved from stone or welded from steel.

Something ya can hold in your hand and not duplicable by dragging it while holding down the option key, or PDFing it.

All that other technical arble-garble jargon might be good for investment vehicles for moving funds around electronically, but for original, one-of-a-kind art, no.

Call me a luddite if you will be no.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,113 posts)
22. Durn. And here i was on the verge of starting a whole new company
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 07:03 PM
Mar 2021

to print and distribute Authentic Certificates of Authenticity (suitable for framing).

I was even going to offer wallet-sized Certificates, but I have a feeling that whoever can afford $69 million doesn't bother carrying around a wallet.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
5. Wonder what it'll be worth when that technology is outdated?
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 03:21 PM
Mar 2021

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I threw out some old cassettes and VHS tapes last month.

As far as art, I prefer art I can see on the wall or on a stand.

hunter

(40,636 posts)
9. My wife and I buy art to support artists.
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 05:37 PM
Mar 2021

Not as "investment," but because we like it.

My parents are artists who always had day jobs.

They didn't become full time artists until my dad retired with a good union pension.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
11. They sound like art lovers as well as artists.
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 05:48 PM
Mar 2021

Wonder if they would buy digital file as art?

hunter

(40,636 posts)
16. My mom can do digital art and sell it. My dad understands digital art but prefers paper.
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 06:18 PM
Mar 2021

My wife prefers paper for her own art but can rock both paper and digital. She can casually draw stuff with her finger on her cell phone that makes me think I'm the luckiest human in this universe.

Six decades in, I still don't know what my talent is.




hunter

(40,636 posts)
8. Bitcoin is stupid as well.
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 05:30 PM
Mar 2021

I'm sure a few good people were surprised by their tulip fortunes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania

But most of them were not good.

Celerity

(54,247 posts)
13. blockchain is here to stay for a long time, and no, BTC is neither 'stupid' nor anything like tulips
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 06:12 PM
Mar 2021

Tulips are not fungible, are not divisible, cannot be easily transferred, are not scarce by design, are not durable, and are not verifiable.

The analogy fails at a multiplicity of levels.

hunter

(40,636 posts)
17. Bitcoins are just bits.
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 06:30 PM
Mar 2021

Anyone can make them.

My bits might be worth billions of dollars someday. Even trillions.

Sadly, it's most likely these dollars wont be worth anything then. Maybe even within my lifetime.

I never forget my mean state is crazy dumpster diving homeless guy.

Even when I've got money in the bank and a secure place to sleep.


Celerity

(54,247 posts)
26. 'Anyone can make them.' You are talking about mining new BTC
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 08:46 PM
Mar 2021

Each BTC is a complete unique key that is verified via the blockchain ledger. It is now impossible to make duplicates (ie double spend). There are only 21 million possible to mine into existence, and around 18.7 milion have been mined. It is extraordinarily hard and costly now. to mine the last 2.3 million. At current rate of mining, the final BTC (remember, they are capped by design at 21 million) would not be mined until approximately 2140 pr so.

Estimates are that around 3-4 million have been permanently lost. My BTC are on separate offline, hardware-based (and redundant) wallets called IronKeys (secure special flash drives.) Not hooked up to the net in any way, completely externally unhackable, the keys are not stored online anywhere.

There are a lot of basic non hype sites out to learn more. All the giant banks are deeply involved so it has massive institutional backing. The delta is very high, extraordinarily so, so I do NOT recommend day trading it. Many decent ways to invest in blockchain (BTC is but one usage of blockchain tech) overall though. I am not a salesperson, so I leave you to discover (or not discover) those on your own.

Cheers

edhopper

(37,289 posts)
10. More power to him
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 05:45 PM
Mar 2021

but yes is just bragging rights by people with too much money. There is a world of difference between an original Van Gogh or Picasso and a print or digital image. There is virtually no difference between the one here for $60 million and a file of the same size I can download.
This is not a rare first edition Dickens, it's a PDF file of Great Expectations.

Celerity

(54,247 posts)
15. It is not a PDF file, it is an NFT that is verifiable via the blockchain, a vast difference.
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 06:15 PM
Mar 2021

edhopper

(37,289 posts)
18. No its not
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 06:39 PM
Mar 2021

the image itself is no different from any of the same size you can ownload. There is a unique code attached, but that does not change the art.
An original Van Gogh on canvas is not the sMe as a print of it or digital image. The painting is unique. This digital image is not.
If people want to make this fungible, be my guest, they just are playing a game with their money.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
19. Oh, us luddites get that, but we're not so luddite-y that we don't know...
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 06:44 PM
Mar 2021

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that image of the file on this thread can be easily turned into a PDF, or copied to a desktop, opened in Photoshop and have the dpi set at 300 or higher and voila, you have a hi-rez image that can be enlarged, printed, and framed and viewed on a wall. You know, seen, viewed, appreciated for its beauty or for it's statement/meaning.

But wait, I know these NFTs are supposed to be kept on some server on the cloud somewhere with several hoops to go through to verify authenticity and view...no, not view, just have knowledge that one has it somewhere as an investment, which is not the purpose of art.

WTH? I want my art out of paint on canvas or board or out of stone or steel on a pedestal...something real, one-of-a-kind that you can touch and view and get pleasure from.

I don't know, could be just me, but I doubt it. And I think most other artists view it similarly to this painter who had a job as an art director to pay the bills.

edhopper

(37,289 posts)
23. With you brush
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 07:09 PM
Mar 2021

there is nothing unartistic about digital art. But to treat an easily reproduced file as an valuable object d art is truly silly.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
25. Ageed. This digital art, and currrency to a degree, sounds like what...
Thu Mar 11, 2021, 07:28 PM
Mar 2021

they used to say about cocaine back in the '70s and '80s...it's for people who have too much money.

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