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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:24 AM Mar 2021

In 2017, per a Quinippiac poll, only 25% supported the Trump tax cut. Every Republican in

Congress voted FOR it. 83% of the benefits went to the top 1%.

Now, in 2021, per MSNBC just now, 75% support the Biden covid relief act. Every Republican in Congress voted AGAINST it. The benefits go to everyone and 85% of Americans will receive checks within days.

If you can wrap your head around those facts and still vote Republican, please kiss my ass!

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In 2017, per a Quinippiac poll, only 25% supported the Trump tax cut. Every Republican in (Original Post) Atticus Mar 2021 OP
Trump tax cuts are trillion bucks a year forever. multigraincracker Mar 2021 #1
Worse than that...IIRC I believe some of the tax cuts for middle class expire in couple years nt wiggs Mar 2021 #4
Next year the rates of middle class go up right on target plan for the (R) JT45242 Mar 2021 #8
Yes, the tax cuts for the 1% were made permanent, and the rest return to the previous levels liberalla Mar 2021 #18
The non-corporate ones end at the end of 2025. I don't think there are any step changes in those, progree Mar 2021 #24
This is not good news...read this article from the NYT Escurumbele Mar 2021 #11
Biden can't just make it go away. It's a Congressionally passed law. Only another law can change it hedda_foil Mar 2021 #31
Racism and hatred appear to be more important than practical self-interest? Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #2
Honestly, that concept was proven a long damn time ago Cosmocat Mar 2021 #12
Taken to its logical conclusion: Over half a million people dead. Economy and society in shambles. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #13
Yep "Oh, my God, DR SUESS!" Cosmocat Mar 2021 #28
Most of the people I knew who support the QOP back in Kentucky cited..... jaxexpat Mar 2021 #17
Yes, as you point out "gun rights" are directly linked to racism. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #29
it's at the heart of the matter. Way too many of the ammo and cammo types.... jaxexpat Mar 2021 #39
They are all ready to start shooting and play soldier. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #40
State by state polls would help treestar Mar 2021 #3
I bet even in the reddest states that a majority Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #7
Yes, so why do they vote treestar Mar 2021 #20
I will go just a bit further... Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #5
K&R, I'm still getting mud stomped with salt caps uponit7771 Mar 2021 #6
Those who believe Republicans were correct in voting against it should Escurumbele Mar 2021 #9
Great post malaise Mar 2021 #10
Truth. Tommymac Mar 2021 #26
Excellent point. Sogo Mar 2021 #14
Kick dalton99a Mar 2021 #15
Gerrymandering equals unresponsive governance LawDem Mar 2021 #16
Gerrymandering doesn't affect the Senate moose65 Mar 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author secondwind Mar 2021 #21
These are the kind of things that Democrats, from Biden on down, PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #22
And the Dems BETTER use this in ALL upcoming campaigns! calimary Mar 2021 #23
Prolly not those last three words. nt Atticus Mar 2021 #25
LOL! calimary Mar 2021 #30
Actually, anyone who is still an "r" after this, I do not want your lips, or indeed any part of your niyad Mar 2021 #27
The right-wing "outrage media machine" clearly works... Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2021 #32
The SAD Political Reality Is This: panfluteman Mar 2021 #33
Guns, Gawd, and Gays. nt Progressive Jones Mar 2021 #38
STIM will see growth in jobs and profits, Republicans will come to see the benefits bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #34
There is no rational reason for the average voter to tick the "R" box. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #35
K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2021 #36
A Senator from California represents 30 times the number of people as a Senator from Montana. Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #37

JT45242

(2,273 posts)
8. Next year the rates of middle class go up right on target plan for the (R)
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:33 AM
Mar 2021

This was done so that when Trump lost, and taxes went up, the (R) would blame the new guy for raising taxes on the middle class even though it was part of their law.

Since they knew they would still have at least 40 and potentialy a majority of the Senate, they planned on blocking any attempt to undo the Trump tax hike on the lower classes to hep them in the midterms and to win back the white house in 2024.

A smart -- totally unethical -- ploy that would fool most of the public especially once the spin guys blamed it all on the do nothing democrats.

liberalla

(9,247 posts)
18. Yes, the tax cuts for the 1% were made permanent, and the rest return to the previous levels
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:50 AM
Mar 2021

(in steps, not all at once)... IIRC

progree

(10,907 posts)
24. The non-corporate ones end at the end of 2025. I don't think there are any step changes in those,
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:46 PM
Mar 2021

it is one big step change at the end of 2025.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
11. This is not good news...read this article from the NYT
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:36 AM
Mar 2021

[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/business/economy/biden-trump-tax-law.html|

I was hoping Biden would get rid of the trump tax cuts...This is disheartening, to say the least.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
12. Honestly, that concept was proven a long damn time ago
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:45 AM
Mar 2021

It's just at a farcically obvious stage now.

Irish_Dem

(47,057 posts)
13. Taken to its logical conclusion: Over half a million people dead. Economy and society in shambles.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:49 AM
Mar 2021

Kids not in school, people not working. People sick and dying. Democracy hanging by a thread.

But hating the other is more important that dealing with our horrendous crises.

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
17. Most of the people I knew who support the QOP back in Kentucky cited.....
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:45 AM
Mar 2021

gun rights as their sole motivation. For them it was a right to hunt issue. They lived for their seasonal hunting experience.

In Jacksonville the "man on the street" talking point on gun ownership is "to prateyct mah self and my faymlee". The unspoken here is that the protection is from a fantasy black uprising. Deeply ingrained slavery hangover syndrome, I suspect.

Neither group had enough income to be affected by the QOP tax manipulation. It made so little difference that it didn't impact their lifestyles at all. Nor do either group understand how they are being manipulated to vote against their own interests.

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
39. it's at the heart of the matter. Way too many of the ammo and cammo types....
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 08:28 AM
Mar 2021

live for the "pre-emptive strike" moment. Their permission to kill.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. State by state polls would help
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:53 AM
Mar 2021

But even so, it would seem there are Republican senators where a majority in their state is for it. That's what is truly mysterious. I get it if you are from a red state but purple one? Why do they find it in their interest to vote against their state?

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
7. I bet even in the reddest states that a majority
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:29 AM
Mar 2021

are for the stimulus. The stimulus has a 60% approval rating among Republicans.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. Yes, so why do they vote
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:04 PM
Mar 2021

differently from their constituents majority, and why will that state re-elect them?

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
5. I will go just a bit further...
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:22 AM
Mar 2021

If you STILL have an R behind your name after the last two repuq administrations, you can KISS my ASS. There is NO excuse.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
9. Those who believe Republicans were correct in voting against it should
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:34 AM
Mar 2021

not cash their checks, they should return them. Put your actions where your mouth is.

malaise

(268,997 posts)
10. Great post
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:36 AM
Mar 2021

ReTHUGs are the oligarchs' tools - no one else matters. They use their base to keep the wealthy happy.

LawDem

(401 posts)
16. Gerrymandering equals unresponsive governance
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:33 AM
Mar 2021

Because of extreme gerrymandering, Republicans in Congress consistently vote contrary to the interests of a majority of their constituents. Extreme gerrymandering doesn't just make this possible,. It makes it inevitable. Most GOP reps don't give a rat's ass what the general public wants. All that matters is that they score well with the right wing extremists who control their party and vote in primary elections. Because of extreme gerrymandering, they don't have to worry about the general election.

But then you already knew that, didn't you? Anyone paying attention knows it. But extreme gerrymandering is so effective, it makes it nearly impossible to change things. So to tell you something else you already know, that is why the pro-democracy legislation soon to be at issue in Congress MUST PASS, filibuster or no filibuster.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
19. Gerrymandering doesn't affect the Senate
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:50 AM
Mar 2021

Senators have to get the votes of voters from across their states. If you're a Republican Senator in a purple state, why would you vote against it? Or, if you just got re-elected in 2020 (Susan Collins) or if you've announced your retirement (Burr) what incentive would you have to vote against the bill?

Answer: pure unadulterated assholishness.

Response to Atticus (Original post)

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,856 posts)
22. These are the kind of things that Democrats, from Biden on down,
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:11 PM
Mar 2021

need to talk about frequently. Staying silent on who voted for what, or who didn't vote for something else, let's them get away with such despicable things.

I'm sure I don't have the exact quote, but it's something like, "All that it takes for evil to win is for good men to remain silent."

Just as every single day Obama should have been pointing out that the Republicans were refusing to consider his nomination of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court. Instead, he essentially shrugged his shoulders, everyone assumed Hillary would win, which even without foreknowledge of Trump becoming President, was not a good idea. Even if she had won the Electoral College and become President, the Senate would still have been majority Republican and would probably have refused to consider her nominee either.

Republicans are simply not held accountable. For anything they do.

niyad

(113,302 posts)
27. Actually, anyone who is still an "r" after this, I do not want your lips, or indeed any part of your
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 04:06 PM
Mar 2021

hateful, misbegotten lifeform anywhere near my person. May you all rot.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
32. The right-wing "outrage media machine" clearly works...
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 07:47 PM
Mar 2021

... on some people.

I had a fellow "poor schmuck" coworker years ago who went so far that he argued for no taxes on the wealthy! "They're the ones who give us jobs!", he said.

I replied that he would've fit in perfectly as a lowly serf under the feudal system of Europe. "The king and the lords give us jobs!"

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
33. The SAD Political Reality Is This:
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:17 PM
Mar 2021

Republicans today are, first and foremost, whores to the billionaires and the corporate elite, and see them as their REAL constituents.

Republican legislators will ALWAYS vote in the interests of their real constituents, no matter how unpopular it may be with the vast majority of the American public.

As for the voters who wound up voting them into office, they were just SUCKERS that they had to con one way or another, by hook or by crook, into voting for them. And there are a LOT of dumb and gullible voters out there in America today.

It's as simple as that.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
34. STIM will see growth in jobs and profits, Republicans will come to see the benefits
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:33 PM
Mar 2021

The only downside will be inflation. And it's here already.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
35. There is no rational reason for the average voter to tick the "R" box.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 01:04 AM
Mar 2021

None. The only reasons they have are bad ones.

Midnight Writer

(21,765 posts)
37. A Senator from California represents 30 times the number of people as a Senator from Montana.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 02:26 AM
Mar 2021

Yet they each get an equal vote and have the same power.

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