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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:27 AM Mar 2021

Eric Boehlert: Good grief -- New York Times credits Trump for Biden's vaccine victory

Last edited Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:59 AM - Edit history (1)




Good grief — New York Times credits Trump for Biden's vaccine victory
Both Sides madness
Eric Boehlert
2 hr ago


In a wildly misguided attempt at Trump rehabilitation, the New York Times this week suggested Trump deserves credit for the extraordinary success the new Biden administration is having getting Americans vaccinated. Leaning hard into the Both Sides narrative, the Times generously headlined its piece, "Biden Got the Vaccine Rollout Humming, With Trump’s Help."

What the article lacked however, was any compelling evidence that Trump deserves vaccine credit, after having spent all of 2020 completely indifferent to the deadly pandemic, and spreading nonstop public health lies. Fully 60 percent of Americans over the age of 60 have received their first Covid vaccine today, compared to just eight percent under Trump. Biden should rightly take bows for that remarkable trend, after the previous administration showcased its vaccine incompetence.

Under Trump, the U.S. vaccine rollout was seen as a national embarrassment. Under Biden, it’s become a model for the world, administering nearly 100 million shots. And now the Covid relief bill, which Trump and Republicans failed to pass for ten months, will pump billions into helping communities nationwide vaccinate.

The Times article represents some truly egregious revisionist history, politely positioning today's Mar-a-lago resident as a president who simply ran out of time and wasn’t able to get the pandemic job done — who worked hard to create an infrastructure for his Democratic successor. That's a wildly inaccurate retelling of what happened and the almost criminal neglect Trump showed through all of last year in terms of fighting the pandemic and getting Americans vaccinated. Instead, more than half a million died.

Trump wasn't some kind of passive, disinterested bystander during the Covid crisis. He actively made it worse at every possible turn
, from the moment he gave the stand down order for the virus invasion last winter ("We have it totally under control" ), to lying about testing , telling Americans to ingest cleaning fluids in order to cleanse themselves of the virus, and the complete disregard he showed for mask-wearing right up until his final days in office. In truth, Trump spread more deliberate lies about Covid to a larger audience than anyone else on the planet, according to a study from Cornell University.

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Eric Boehlert: Good grief -- New York Times credits Trump for Biden's vaccine victory (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2021 OP
As others have noted, "Liberal media my ass." nt Phoenix61 Mar 2021 #1
Trump spread more deliberate lies about Covid to a larger audience than anyone else on the planet, maxrandb Mar 2021 #2
Bingo! lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #10
Biden will take us over the goal line. Honestly, I don't care if trump gets some credit for vaccine. Hoyt Mar 2021 #3
Pfizer spokespersons said they operated completely wnylib Mar 2021 #27
Basically agree, although it's kind of like arguing whether trump's economic performance up Hoyt Mar 2021 #33
The comments section was scathing central scrutinizer Mar 2021 #4
Wasn't the Pfizer vaccine developed in Germany? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2021 #5
My GAWD, don't ask HIM that! MyOwnPeace Mar 2021 #11
Correct, Pfizer got $0.00 from Trump William Seger Mar 2021 #21
Am I remembering correctly that the former guy trotted out a general to tell us about the military brewens Mar 2021 #6
Yeah the military has had almost no role in the distribution underpants Mar 2021 #8
Right! Remember that general apologizing for not doing anything like distributing it soothsayer Mar 2021 #9
The New York Times - All the Bothsiderism And Revisionism That's Fit to Print. dalton99a Mar 2021 #7
Is it time to declare the Times a right wing news source? 5X Mar 2021 #12
Has been since 2008 imo. At least. Tommymac Mar 2021 #31
The vaccine was developed by pharmaceutical manufacturers building on years of research Raven123 Mar 2021 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2021 #14
NYT WTF!!! Pepsidog Mar 2021 #15
NYT NYET flibbitygiblets Mar 2021 #16
Trump rollout was messy, chaotic and inept. Biden had to first wade into the mess and clean it up LizBeth Mar 2021 #17
This isn't just a case of trying to throw a bone to 45. RVN VET71 Mar 2021 #18
The article mentions "Trump" sixteen times PatSeg Mar 2021 #19
It was reported that Trump met ZERO times with his Covid task force after June 2020. Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #20
Yeah and that tip about drinking bleach was a real life saver. lpbk2713 Mar 2021 #22
Actually, that's what bugs me about the excerpt in the OP. thesquanderer Mar 2021 #34
That pharmacological researchers were working hard during his term is undeniable. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #23
What the actual fuck is up with the NYT? Texin Mar 2021 #24
They came close to losing me with that article. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Texin Mar 2021 #25
More Credit to Joe and Kamala for sorting Trumps cluster*@#$% RANDYWILDMAN Mar 2021 #26
I simply can't read dianaredwing Mar 2021 #29
Reminds me on the the time that republicans tried to take credit for Obama killing Osama Bin Laden W T F Mar 2021 #30
The NYT didn't publish this comment matt819 Mar 2021 #32

maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
2. Trump spread more deliberate lies about Covid to a larger audience than anyone else on the planet,
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:30 AM
Mar 2021

Except for the New York Times!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Biden will take us over the goal line. Honestly, I don't care if trump gets some credit for vaccine.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:36 AM
Mar 2021

But, his handling of the pandemic before the vaccine was pitiful, incompetent, and maybe criminal. People died who might not have had he effectively promoted masks, isolation, calm, etc.

I suppose spending money to launch some research might have helped, although I think Pfizer didn't accept the early funding. I'm more inclined to credit drug companies for developing and manufacturing an effective vaccine.

I'm more confident under Biden that this -- and the next pandemic, economic shock, or whatever -- will be handled competently.

wnylib

(21,438 posts)
27. Pfizer spokespersons said they operated completely
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 01:10 PM
Mar 2021

on their own, outside of any government program. Moderna was part of the government acceleration program, but I'd bet there were other companies interested in developing a vaccine, with or without government backing. It's a world crisis, with money to br made from sales domestically and abroad.

Also, it's Biden who arranged for cooperation between competitors to step up production of the J&J vaccine.

As far as I'm concerned, it's the Trump virus and the Biden vaccine.

BTW, NPR was in full both siderism mode this morning in crediting the orange menace with the vaccine production and rollout. They even agreed with a caller who said that Biden should have credited the previous guy in Biden's speech last night.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
33. Basically agree, although it's kind of like arguing whether trump's economic performance up
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 02:02 PM
Mar 2021

to CV19 was Obama's or trump's doing.

I think it was Obama's, but I can see people saying that might have been true the first 6 months or so, but certainly not two to three years in.

If trump did accelerate development of vaccine -- even a day or two -- I don't mind giving him credit. It still doesn't come close to negating his incompetence, racism, hatred, encouraging insurrection, poor management of CV19, Russia, and so much more.

I suspect most of the vaccine companies would have gotten it out quickly without trump, but I'm sure it helped to know the government would pay for every bit produced. The companies that weren't able to develop an effective vaccine are now scurrying to be at least part of production.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
11. My GAWD, don't ask HIM that!
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:51 AM
Mar 2021

He'll tell you that they wanted him to be except there was this mean woman running the place......

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
21. Correct, Pfizer got $0.00 from Trump
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:51 PM
Mar 2021

Drug companies had plenty of incentive and PLENTY of capital to develop vaccines.

brewens

(13,582 posts)
6. Am I remembering correctly that the former guy trotted out a general to tell us about the military
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:40 AM
Mar 2021

being ready to spring into action to distribute the vaccine? I think it was during one of the daily campaign pressers.

I'd like to see that guy brought in to testify to Congress. Ask him just what actions they took? I'm thinking they were put on notice to prepare, but received no actual plan or guidance of any kind from the administration.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
8. Yeah the military has had almost no role in the distribution
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:43 AM
Mar 2021

Unless you want to count the National Guard at vax sites.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
9. Right! Remember that general apologizing for not doing anything like distributing it
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:46 AM
Mar 2021

After former guy bragged about having such a logistics expert. He never said why he failed. I’m sure he was told not to bother sending any out.

dalton99a

(81,468 posts)
7. The New York Times - All the Bothsiderism And Revisionism That's Fit to Print.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:41 AM
Mar 2021

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Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
31. Has been since 2008 imo. At least.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 01:25 PM
Mar 2021

They hate The Clinton's, The Obama's and anyone associated with them.

I personally avoid any news source that is behind a paywall.

NYT's - All the news that's fit to spin. They are a conservative wolf in sheep's clothing.

Raven123

(4,830 posts)
13. The vaccine was developed by pharmaceutical manufacturers building on years of research
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:54 AM
Mar 2021

If successful we can view this as a solution ready for the problem, and credit 30 years of curiosity, intellectual creativity and dogged determination funded privately and publicly along the way. Neither Biden nor Trump had much to do with it. The rollout is another matter and if the previous administration wants to defend their rollout strategy/tactics, let’s hear some facts. Let’s also hear an explanation about why they had trouble counting the doses they did have - or didn’t. I’m still not sure.

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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
17. Trump rollout was messy, chaotic and inept. Biden had to first wade into the mess and clean it up
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:25 PM
Mar 2021

before he could implement his roll out so really Trump wasted a period of Biden time because he had to clean up Trump mess first. Times is wrong.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
18. This isn't just a case of trying to throw a bone to 45.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:32 PM
Mar 2021

It is an outright deliberate misrepresentation of facts in an effort to besmirch the accomplishments of the current, legitimate administration. Trump, let it be known, did the minimum amount of work, the absolute least he could do, because he didn’t want to do anything but had to be able to lie as if he’d done something.

With Trump’s help? Like saying Frederick Douglas became an articulate and brilliant speaker and writer with a “boost” from slavers who, after all, brought his people over from Africa. For christ’s sake! Trump did what he could to deep-six WHO, Dr. Fauci, the CDC. And the Pfizer vaccine was created without a freaking penny of Trump’s money.

And The NY Times can kiss my liberal butt.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
19. The article mentions "Trump" sixteen times
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:33 PM
Mar 2021

Though it was not all in a positive way, Sharon LaFraniere still seems to give Trump far too much credit for the vaccine rollout. From over here in the cheap seats, it kind of looked like any success was in spite of Trump, not because of him.

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
20. It was reported that Trump met ZERO times with his Covid task force after June 2020.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:45 PM
Mar 2021

He lost all interest in participating once the daily TV briefings stopped, and it became clear the problem was getting worse.

It was the Deep State that filled in the leadership vacuum, running on auto pilot to get us as far as we did during his tenure.

And aren't there twenty million doses missing from the initial rollout?

Trump couldn't have made things worse if he had a playbook to follow. (which may have been the case)

The Scott Atlas debacle revealed that the Administration's goal in handling the pandemic was to exploit the crisis for political gain.



thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
34. Actually, that's what bugs me about the excerpt in the OP.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 02:30 PM
Mar 2021

The author says, "telling Americans to ingest cleaning fluids in order to cleanse themselves of the virus" -- No, he never actually told Americans to do that. Yes, we know what he's talking about, but when there's so much truly terrible to say about Trump, over-stating/exaggerating is unnecessary and only weakens the case.

It's one thing if he's just preaching to the choir, we on the left know what he means. But I also look to good analyses to show to my less-lefty friends. And I can't show them this because they'll just come back with, "He's obviously biased. Trump never told anyone to do that. Can't trust this article. He's probably making up some of the other stuff too."

One does not need to gild the lily. (Or in this case, more like add snot to the shit.)

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
23. That pharmacological researchers were working hard during his term is undeniable.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:57 PM
Mar 2021

I believe they would have also worked hard if I was President. Or a reasonably able gopher was.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
24. What the actual fuck is up with the NYT?
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 12:58 PM
Mar 2021

Are they just trying to not piss off their deep pocket subscribers or what?

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
28. They came close to losing me with that article.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 01:14 PM
Mar 2021

It read more like an opinion piece that one of their right wingers like Bret Stephens could have written. I was one of the subscribers who blasted them.

And then the very next day, WaPo had a similar article praising Trump for the Merck-J&J deal because the idea came up with the Trump team, which did nothing to move it forward. That was left to the Biden team, but according to them Trump deserved the credit.

I’m glad to see the comments here, because I was seriously beginning to wonder whether I’ve become too sensitive to perceived slights of Democrats. I recognize that I have biases just like everyone else, but these articles seriously ticked me off. And lately I’m of the opinion that Democrats should not care one iota what Republicans think. Kill the filibuster and move all of Biden’s legislation through Congress before the 2022 election. Republicans have no ideas anyway, and all they will do is delay, delay, delay and refuse to vote even for bills that included some of their wishes. We just saw this with the Recover Act, so members of Congress, including Sinema and Manchin, need to recognize that Republicans aren’t there for any bipartisanship.

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RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
26. More Credit to Joe and Kamala for sorting Trumps cluster*@#$%
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 01:06 PM
Mar 2021

yes more of that and less of trump did something and Biden just finished it off.

Remember everything trump touches dies.

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
29. I simply can't read
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 01:16 PM
Mar 2021

any more asinine lies. I am ashamed of our press, except for Jen. They are simply all paparazzi out for the kill, preferably not one that reflects back on them. There has not been any sign of a fair, let alone liberal press in major media since the 60s.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
32. The NYT didn't publish this comment
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 01:25 PM
Mar 2021

A search of the NYT archive would surely reveal an article headlined, "Germany's Nazi Party confirmed operating death camps; trains run on time."

Elizabeth Rosenthal has a piece today advocating that Biden should continue Trump's efforts on Rx price reductions. She at least had the sense to acknowledge early on that Trump's response to health care was appalling, what with trying to eliminate the ACA, taking ACA insurance away from 2 million people, and killing hundreds of thousands by his covid response. Which got me to thinking. Why would he have taken steps in the consumer's interest, i.e., reducing drug prices? This is inconsistent with his overall vileness.

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