With all this talk, the moral is you get a SEXUAL CONTRACT

[Rustyeye77]

They have many types.... this one is a one night stand contract.( is nothing sacred)
Yes , it does take away from spontaneity... but at least you can protect yourself.
Some with checklists
Welcome to America


ONE NIGHT AGREEMENT

I find you attractive and desirable. In an effort to get to know you better
and explore new opportunities, I propose we spend a romantic evening together.

Any activities we engage in must be mutually agreed upon. I promise my intention
is to get to know you, with no harm intended, either physical or emotional.
Although some intimate powers of romantic persuasion are acceptable,
I will never attempt to force you to do anything you do not want to do.
Our goal is to get to know each other in as many ways as possible.

This is a personal desire of mine. I want you. I agree to keep this experience between us.
It is strictly confidential. No one else needs to know. Friends, relatives, even strangers,
and especially our mothers will not find out, or ever need to know.
We are not dating. If in the event our adventure turns out to be a positive experience
that you or I want to repeat, I agree to limit the attempts to ask to see you again.

Either one of us has the option to ask the other again only once.
If the second party says no, go away, I agree to never bring up the subject again.
In that event I further agree to uphold our agreement to keep the entire adventure
completely confidential, and a one time thing. It would be extremely rewarding
for me to get to know you better in every possible way.

Thank you very much for your consideration. I look forward to accepting your signature.


Your place? ____________ My place? ____________




Signed _____________________________________ Date______________




Signed _____________________________________ Date ______________

[Sympthsical]

1. Alas, this does not work on Grindr.

I've tried.

In all seriousness. Consent is not a difficult thing to understand. It's like morality. People come up with all these complicated rules and scenarios on what is right and wrong. It's simple.

Don't be an asshole.

Are you being an asshole? No? You're probably just fine then.

[MineralMan]

5. Is it OK if I....?

or, "Do you want to try....?"

or, "I'd like to...Is that OK?"

That works pretty well. Either the other person thinks that's a good idea too or not. Generally, if things are pleasurable for both people, consent is pretty obvious after a while.

"Is it OK if I kiss you?" "Sure!"

[Sympthsical]

6. When I was on dating apps

It was always pretty clear what the intention of the date was going to be. Also, gay men. We're kind of direct with each other in that way. I never thought about it much, but yeah, much of the time we actually were negotiating boundaries before meeting. I suppose that's how adulthood works.

[MineralMan]

10. There were no dating apps when I was dating.

By the time I was in my mid 20s, everyone was older and more open about sexual matters. Blanket consent for a wide range of mutual activities was pretty common by then. Most times, things were upfront right away, even in many situations where you didn't know each other very well. If not, you talked about it a little before even starting anything.

Cuomo is in his 60s, isn't he? That's old enough to have learned some things, I'd think. So, I'm confused by the issues he's facing right now. Either people are lying or he's an idiot. I don't know which it is, though. I've met some old idiots in my 75 years on this planet.

[Sympthsical]

13. Power can breed a sense of immunity

I'm not in NY, so I'm not entirely familiar with the man. But from what's been coming out, it seems he's been used to getting his way for a long time now.

I'm sure that plays into it. I mean, Bill Clinton was incredibly stupid. Not worth impeaching, but his behavior just boggles the mind.

Power scrambles some people's noggins.

[Rustyeye77]

12. I agree it's pretty obvious...but...

later on you never know what’s going to be said .

“ I never thought he was going to.......me”

[MineralMan]

18. I suppose, but I've always tried to keep

sex within actual relationships. Which is not to say that I didn't sometimes have casual sex with someone I wasn't in a relationship with, but that happened rarely, and enthusiastic mutual consent was always there.

The truth is that I'm still friends with most of the women I've had sex with, a couple of ex-wives included, along with all of the people in youthful relationships, even high school ones. Facebook. It's all a matter of some humor these days, really, now that we're all in our 60s and 70s.

Maybe I'm just lucky that way. I don't know. I do know that everything was always completely consensual - every time.

[Rustyeye77]

25. You are lucky

If you get bored google “casual sex leads to lawsuit”

“ Your Honor...I ...I...I thought we were consensual”

[MineralMan]

2. Ridiculous. That is not how it works at all.

Ugh!

[SKKY]

3. I'm gonna start making my wife sign one of these...

[demmiblue]

4. This is lame. n/t

[Treefrog]

32. Very. It's sad to see the hoops people are jumping through to excuse sexual harassment.

Very lame.

[Backseat Driver]

7. Who is "They" have many types?

I need to pass these multiple types of contracts on to a trained legal assistant working in/on building hospitality venues, LOL! My friend makes sure things like all the Exit signs are ordered/received, and installed!

[DSandra]

8. There should be one for the workplace that the boss has to sign as well

One where the boss has to agree not to do sexual advances or other harassing and sexually harassing things.

If it was required by law, would help a lot to reduce sexual harassment.

[Ms. Toad]

23. It's called Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.

Been around for a decade or 6.

[ret5hd]

9. You're doing it wrong.

[Rustyeye77]

14. What specifically is "doing it wrong" ?.

I don’t understand.

[ret5hd]

17. Listen. Speak. Listen some more. Ask questions.

Smile. Listen some more. Offer observations on subjects that the other has mentioned. Offer to do something together that is relevant to common interests. Listen some more. Smile some more.

[Rustyeye77]

21. So much for spontaneity.

Listen , smile, listen.....Sign here.

[ret5hd]

22. As I said, you're doing it wrong.

You just be sure to let us know just how many of those “contracts” you get signed in the next few weeks. I’m SURE it will be dozens.

[Rustyeye77]

26. Too much work with all the talking and listening and smiling

A few years ago I went to Hedonism II

None of that deep meaningful conversation.

Lol

[ret5hd]

27. Ahhh, I see. Bit of advice...

switch hands once in a while so you don’t get lopsided.

[demmiblue]

28. OMG... lol!

You are so on point!

[ret5hd]

30. Well, everything I know I learned...

while hitching down that long lonely highway called experience.

[Treefrog]

33. Bwahaha!

VERY well done!

[LisaL]

11. Don't do it at work.

NT

[WhiskeyGrinder]

15. This is a shitty joke.

[Treefrog]

34. It's incredibly tone deaf, but I've noticed this poster's posts on all the Cuomo threads so I'm just

not surprised. Not one bit.

[Rustyeye77]

36. C'MON

not necessary

[uponit7771]

16. Really ?!

[WarGamer]

19. I'm old enough to remember back in the day when...

You'd kiss someone and if they pushed you away that was a "no"... and if they kissed back, a "yes"..

Ever seen a pre-1970's movie with Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Cary Grant, Rock Hudson or Gregory Peck?

Different times...

[Klaralven]

20. Contracts should have a section of definitions of terms, e.g. "know", "romantic", "powers", "force"

There must be a few annexes and appendices missing?

Also missing the notarization block.

[Rustyeye77]

24. By that time you're too old to care.

nt

[greenjar_01]

29. Oooof

[nolabear]

31. Is this before or after drinks and a long walk on the beach?

And mothers? Seriously?

And will there be a witness? A notary public perhaps?

And I hate to bring this up but it's a paternity suit in the making. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but boy is it a thing.

So, no.

[Treefrog]

35. Here's some advice. Don't do this at work. With or without your 'contract'.