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tblue37

(65,340 posts)
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 04:41 PM Mar 2021

Josh Marshall tweet:

Don't forget. The Trump administration literally had no plan to vaccinate anyone other than nursing home residents. The "plan" quite literally was to deliver vaccines to airports in each state and let states figure it out with no plan or funding. This is a fact.



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I didn't know that. underpants Mar 2021 #1
Yeah, that was revealed during the "transition" when they were finally allowed on the premesis. PSPS Mar 2021 #3
Actually read the article. I don't see a mention of airports. underpants Mar 2021 #6
Air transport is one of the major means of shipping vaccines... JHB Mar 2021 #15
That is truly appalling. I figured it wasn't a very good plan, but I had no idea how bad. nt Biophilic Mar 2021 #2
This is what I am putting on any twitter posts. LizBeth Mar 2021 #4
I remember that frazzled Mar 2021 #5
I think it is worse than that genxlib Mar 2021 #7
+1 crickets Mar 2021 #10
Yes, that's what I remember, too. tanyev Mar 2021 #14
The Repub states torius Mar 2021 #8
Trump's plan was herd immunity and poli-junkie Mar 2021 #9
And to apparently, sicken and murder their state citizens and constituents. littlemissmartypants Mar 2021 #12
"Just let it wash over us." Grokenstein Mar 2021 #13
Glad we took the airports during the Revolutionary War. CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #11
Don't forget ramming the ramparts speak easy Mar 2021 #18
ROFL Beartracks Mar 2021 #23
THAT IS A FACT. SergeStorms Mar 2021 #16
Rt TY With "details & receipts! Cha Mar 2021 #17
Kick dalton99a Mar 2021 #19
Twitter reply : Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #20
But the former guy (loser) got vaccinated. Oldem Mar 2021 #21
Very quietly and away from the cameras gratuitous Mar 2021 #25
The Biden administration's plan does seem better. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #22
It's weird they still think Trump was "good for the economy." Beartracks Mar 2021 #24
As a friend of mine rightly opined: BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #26

JHB

(37,160 posts)
15. Air transport is one of the major means of shipping vaccines...
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 07:04 PM
Mar 2021

...especially since they have expiration dates.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/covid-vaccine-how-doses-get-from-the-manufacturing-plant-to-your-arm.html

Loading planes & trucks

Within hours of the FDA’s approval of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines last month, FedEx and United Parcel Service started shipping vials of doses. The logistics rivals teamed up and split deliveries by state, UPS Healthcare President Wes Wheeler told a Senate panel at a hearing last month.

Delivering coronavirus vaccines, however, isn’t first time the companies have handled sensitive medical products. UPS provided logistical support throughout Pfizer’s clinical trials. FedEx delivers flu vaccines every year and shipped over 80 million H1N1 vaccine doses in 2009, said Richard Smith, FedEx Express executive vice president.

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Passenger airlines also play a role. Even before Pfizer’s vaccine was cleared by the FDA, United Airlines started shipping doses on Boeing 777s from Brussels, near the pharmaceutical giant’s Belgium plant to the carrier’s hub at Chicago O’Hare. They were taken by truck from the airport to Pfizer’s plant in Kalamazoo, Michigan to position them for distribution.

American Airlines ran trial flights in November between Miami and South America to stress test thermal packaging and handling before it started shipping the vaccines.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. This is what I am putting on any twitter posts.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:00 PM
Mar 2021

Good to hear, and to be clear. Trump was not a help. Trump created a mess slowing Biden down stepping into office. Biden had to clean up a mess, hidden from him cause Trump shenanigans. Then implement a doable distribution and get vaccines Trump didn't order.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. I remember that
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:06 PM
Mar 2021

I was seeing clips on the local news of the facility at O’Hare that was slated to receive the vaccines allotted for the region, which were woefully inadequate for the first months.

The state was desperate for more.

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
7. I think it is worse than that
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:07 PM
Mar 2021

I can accept delegation as a plan if you foreworn the states that they will be responsible. Give them some rough guidelines, timelines and volumes with plenty of advanced notice so that they can plan how to take it from there. It is not what I would have done but I could accept that it could work if properly executed and delegated.

There are numerous reports of the states getting caught flatfooted because they were never told this would be their responsibility.

This wasn't delegation of authority. It was abrogation.

tanyev

(42,553 posts)
14. Yes, that's what I remember, too.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:37 PM
Mar 2021

When they became available, it happened very quickly. Great for a pat-ourselves-on-the-back Trump administration news story, but terrible for planning the details of how to actually get shots into arms.

torius

(1,652 posts)
8. The Repub states
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:09 PM
Mar 2021

were hoping they could use a vaccine shortage to vaccinate only the voters they like.

So now they’re opening wide up again to make sure the pandemic keeps spreading. Then when the fourth wave comes they can say Biden’s plan isn’t working and they can cause rushing and bottlenecks that will help them make sure more POC get infected before it’s “too late.”

poli-junkie

(1,002 posts)
9. Trump's plan was herd immunity and
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:36 PM
Mar 2021

take a cut on a tightly controlled vaccine roll-out. Today, Repuke Govs are lifting lockdown measures to hinder Biden's progress.

SergeStorms

(19,200 posts)
16. THAT IS A FACT.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 07:21 PM
Mar 2021

So "he who I refuse to name" can stuff every used vaccination needle straight up his ass. He did nothing, NOTHING to help get this nation vaccinated, other than sign a piece of paper. And then taking credit for everything, right down to mapping the human genome, of course.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. Very quietly and away from the cameras
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 02:38 PM
Mar 2021

But then, we all know what a shy, self-effacing person Needy Amin is, always looking out for others and never blowing his own horn.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
22. The Biden administration's plan does seem better.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 01:23 PM
Mar 2021

At least a little. SMH

And millions still support the former chaos and sordid doings of The Previous Guy.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
24. It's weird they still think Trump was "good for the economy."
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 02:36 PM
Mar 2021

All he had to do was ride the coattails of President Obama's economic expansion, which began markedly before Trump was in office... and he still fucked that up.

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