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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:34 PM Mar 2021

Candace Owens says Duchess Meghan isn't Black enough to experience racism. Here's why she's wrong.

"You would not be able to discern just by looking at Meghan Markle that she's Black."

That's what conservative commentator Candace Owens said after Duchess Meghan and Prince Harry's explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey, suggesting that Meghan is lying about her experience because she's not Black enough to be a victim of racism.

This narrative creates a never-ending conundrum that can affect a Black person's sense of self and identity: When you're "too Black" for some and not "Black enough" for others.

Although Meghan defines herself as "half black and half white," the royal family and her critics can apparently only see one thing: Meghan's Blackness or lack thereof.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/candace-owens-says-duchess-meghan-isnt-black-enough-to-experience-racism-heres-why-shes-wrong/ar-BB1evnuZ?ocid=DELLDHP&li=BBnbfcL

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Candace Owens says Duchess Meghan isn't Black enough to experience racism. Here's why she's wrong. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 OP
Oh, fuck her. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2021 #1
Well, ya see, she's black, and attractive, and conservative..... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2021 #14
I actually think she isn't attractive USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #16
The only requirement for any person to experience "racism"/ethnic biogtry is that they abqtommy Mar 2021 #2
...or Latino, and most recently - Asian-American. NM Grins Mar 2021 #19
Well, "brown" covers a lot of that, except for the latinos who are ethnic white but then abqtommy Mar 2021 #20
Candace Owen's karma cannot catch up with her quickly enough. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #3
Sorry, you lost me at Candace Owens says. onecaliberal Mar 2021 #4
Candace isn't "decent enough" to experience respect. nt Atticus Mar 2021 #5
I agree Deuxcents Mar 2021 #8
So much that I could say about Candace that would get me a 'hide'. GoneOffShore Mar 2021 #6
You mean sexist and racist stuff? whathehell Mar 2021 #11
She should have a chat SoCalNative Mar 2021 #7
Who cares what Candace Owens says? HipChick Mar 2021 #9
I guess cadace forgot the theory even a drop of black blood makes one black. kimbutgar Mar 2021 #10
Doesn't matter what her color is, racism is about what color she is percieved as. No doubt ... marble falls Mar 2021 #12
There was probably a time when Owens would not have said that... Caliman73 Mar 2021 #13
Candace Owens have made a career BGBD Mar 2021 #15
Yep USAFRetired_Liberal Mar 2021 #17
Perhaps we've forgotton terms like quadroon and octoroon. alwaysinasnit Mar 2021 #18
I've actually read the very long list that some Euro dope made to categorize every skin abqtommy Mar 2021 #21
If Meghan had been an anonymous tourist spending a few days in London tanyev Mar 2021 #22
Or spending a few days in London heckles65 Mar 2021 #23
(Previous poster) heckles65 Mar 2021 #24

Tommy Carcetti

(43,164 posts)
1. Oh, fuck her.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:35 PM
Mar 2021

She attempted to deny the existence of the very-real Southern Strategy; she has no authority whatsoever to speak about anything relating to racism.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
14. Well, ya see, she's black, and attractive, and conservative.....
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:35 PM
Mar 2021

So she is absolutely an authority on all things having to do with Meghan Markle’s experiences.





And before anyone busts my chops for being sexist or anything else, if the woman wasn’t attractive, it wouldn’t matter WHAT she said, no one would have ever paid any attention to her.

But because she is black and the product of a well-to-do Connecticut upbringing, she gets attention paid to her, just like Tomi Lauren and all the other nitwits on the right who say ridiculous things to get attention.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
16. I actually think she isn't attractive
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:43 PM
Mar 2021

But maybe it’s her own inward ugliness that I have projected to her outwardly look

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
2. The only requirement for any person to experience "racism"/ethnic biogtry is that they
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:37 PM
Mar 2021

have white, black or brown skin.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
20. Well, "brown" covers a lot of that, except for the latinos who are ethnic white but then
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:38 PM
Mar 2021

"white" covers them too. We're just all one big family! Happiness is optional!

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
7. She should have a chat
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 05:41 PM
Mar 2021

with the indigenous people of Australia and New Zealand to see if they aren't "black enough" to experience racism.

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
10. I guess cadace forgot the theory even a drop of black blood makes one black.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:07 PM
Mar 2021

I am a little lighter than Meghan and one can experience racism even if you’re light skinned.

I remember when I young experiencing the recoil of a few guys I dated who didn’t know what I was and stopped seeing me. One guy said he really liked me but never could he introduce me to his parents. I stopped seeing him after that and he called me several times saying he didn’t care what his parents thought. He liked me a lot. But it was a deal breaker for me.

So yes cadace you have no idea what you’re talking about.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
12. Doesn't matter what her color is, racism is about what color she is percieved as. No doubt ...
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:22 PM
Mar 2021

... she's experienced racism: every aspect discussed about her is wrapped in race.

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
13. There was probably a time when Owens would not have said that...
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:29 PM
Mar 2021

Thing is, when you become conservative, if even for "the grift", you turn in your ability to think critically. Conservatives operate in a simplistic and binary manner. They either can't or won't understand nuance and the complexities of human behavior and values.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
15. Candace Owens have made a career
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:38 PM
Mar 2021

of saying the racist things that racist people are thinking, so they can say "Look, a black woman says it too! I can't be racist now!"

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
17. Yep
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:47 PM
Mar 2021

I posted something similar the other day. It’s lucrative to be a black person who shows up everytime there is a racial incident to make the racist white people feel good about their racism.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215213935

alwaysinasnit

(5,063 posts)
18. Perhaps we've forgotton terms like quadroon and octoroon.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 06:59 PM
Mar 2021

If memory serves, even into the 19th Century South, you were still considered Black if you were categorized as an octoroon. The terms may no longer be used but I suspect a lot of people still think this way.

quad•roon kwŏ-droo͞n?►

n.
A person having white ancestors except for one black grandparent. Used especially as a classification under certain European colonial legal systems and now considered offensive.
n.
The offspring of a mulatto and a white person; a person having one fourth African blood.
Fourth in descent from a negro parent, one parent in each generation having been white.


oc•to•roon ŏk?tə-roo͞n?►

n.
A person having white ancestors except for one black great-grandparent. Used especially as a classification under certain European colonial legal systems and now considered offensive.
n.
The offspring of a quadroon and a white person; a person having one eighth negro blood.
n.
The offspring of a quadroon and a white person; a mestee.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
21. I've actually read the very long list that some Euro dope made to categorize every skin
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:29 PM
Mar 2021

shade of black people known in the whole universe. That's something I'd rather forget
but yeah, it's there. My own personal view is that Meaghan, Duchess of Sussex has skin
tone/color very close to many of my close female relatives and we're all white ethnic
Northern Euros. But then I know that it's a sad fact that people who practice racism/ethnic bigotry come in all colors, ages and genders. I don't like it so I make sure I'm not one of them. I've traveled the world and whether I'm in China, Sri Lanka, Mexico, Colombia,
or The Czech Republic or shopping at my local WalMart I see atrractive women and men
of all skin colors. Meghan certainly appears to be attractive to me. And that's as far as I
want to go with that.

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
22. If Meghan had been an anonymous tourist spending a few days in London
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:17 PM
Mar 2021

she probably wouldn’t have had any negative experiences. Marrying into the royal family is a whole other matter, Ms. Owens.

heckles65

(548 posts)
24. (Previous poster)
Sun Mar 14, 2021, 05:47 PM
Mar 2021
And before anyone busts my chops for being sexist or anything else, if the woman wasn’t attractive, it wouldn’t matter WHAT she said, no one would have ever paid any attention to her.

100% true.
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