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"supposably," which is an adverb meaning "as may be assumed, imagined, or supposed," is one of the 600 words we just added to http://Dictionary.com.
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3:46 PM · Mar 12, 2021
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)one word at a time.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,366 posts)is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.
― James D. Nicoll
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)but we've got a perfectly good word already. We don't need a bastardized version of the same word competing against the accepted version - especially when it's so sloppy as this one is.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)(snip)
What does supposably mean? Thats where things get a bit tricky. In most early uses supposably appears to have a meaning that is distinct from supposedly, having the intended meaning of capable of being conceived of. Many people who use the word today, however, appear to intend it to mean something that is much closer to supposedly (allegedly). This modern sense bothers some people.
It is simple enough to point out that supposably and supposedly are just the adverbial forms of the adjectives supposable and supposed. However, when you consider that the definition of supposable is capable of being supposed (as well as conceivable) it is easy to see how these two words have a degree of overlap.
So in summation: supposably is a word, it has a meaning (as may be conceived or imagined) that is distinct from most uses of supposedly, but most people who use it nowadays might be better served by using supposedly instead. Now go take your dictionary pants off before they begin to chafe.
I'll continue to use 'supposedly' most of the time, but I won't chafe at 'supposably,' unless it's used incorrectly.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)I do find it fascinating when people treat language as something that must be gatekept.
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)but it's annoying to see garbage words like 'irregardless' tossed around.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)were trying to say when they used the word. And I say this as a professional writer/editor.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,366 posts)When horses dont fucking chomp at the bit, they champ a bit.
Understanding thats a phrase and not a word, so how about Irregardless?
I agree with you, frankly. We already had a perfectly good word.
I think a lot of word modification is due short cutting, and the English and the Aussies are particularly good at that.
Telly
Pub (Short for Public House)
Ute (Aussie for Utility vehicle, mostly what we in the states know as a Ford Ranchero or a Chevy El Camino)
And on and on.....
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)It's conditional on whether the person uses 'supposably' correctly.
You know what gets me? 'Tow the line.' It's 'TOE the line!'
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Where did you find that at?
Nails on chalkboard for me.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)"Behind the preposition."
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)Guy from a western state gets a scholarship to an ivy-league school. His first day on campus, he's looking for the library. He asks a passerby:
New guy on campus: 'Excuse me, but can you tell me where the library is at?'
Snooty snob: 'From what cretinous backwater did you emerge? Don't you know that you never end a sentence with a preposition? Ask the question properly and I will provide the answer.'
New guy: 'I'm sorry. Can you tell me where the library is at, ASSHOLE !?!'
niyad
(113,275 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,008 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)word list from several others, not a venerated tome.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)They're both real. But which are you supposed to use?
What to Know
Supposably is a real word and separate from supposedly. Supposably means "as may be conceived or imagined" and is the adverb form of supposable, which means "capable of being supposed or conceived." On the other hand, supposedly usually means "allegedly." The words are often conflated when one usually intends to say "supposedly."
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Supposably and Supposedly Are Different Words
A common complaint about this word is that it is simply a mistaken use of supposedly. Sometimes this is the case, and sometimes it is not. Supposably may be found as far back as the 17th century. It is rarely encountered over the next hundred or so years, but at the beginning of the 19th century we see much more evidence of it being used.
I observe two grand defects in this Reply; One, that 'tis not supposably legal, that all the Tenants in the Mannor can by Legal Forms of Judgment dispossess a Lawful, and possess a wrong Person into the Lordship of a Mannor, because these Tenants are not Judges in Law.
Samuel Hill, A Debate on the Justice and Piety of the Present Constitution, 1696
If we find the bdellium of a passage supposably written in Kedem, is hardly to be explained by any production of Arabia, or Palestine, where is the impropriety of inquiring whether it may not be a well known article in Kedem?
Scripture Illustrated, 1814
More: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/supposably-vs-supposedly
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)cover that ground??
niyad
(113,275 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)Which is defined as "Capable of being supposed"
"Hence supposably adv. (Chiefly U.S.) as may be supposed; presumably." p. 3168, The Compact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary, Vlume II P-Z, Oxford University Press 1971.
niyad
(113,275 posts)intrepidity
(7,294 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)It is simple enough to point out that supposably and supposedly are just the adverbial forms of the adjectives supposable and supposed. However, when you consider that the definition of supposable is capable of being supposed (as well as conceivable) it is easy to see how these two words have a degree of overlap.
So in summation: supposably is a word, it has a meaning (as may be conceived or imagined) that is distinct from most uses of supposedly, but most people who use it nowadays might be better served by using supposedly instead. Now go take your dictionary pants off before they begin to chafe.
Dagstead Bumwood
(3,625 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Aristus
(66,323 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)Ideal : a thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action.
Kingofalldems
(38,452 posts)HUAJIAO
(2,383 posts)Caliman73
(11,732 posts)Was "sangwich" also added as a new word, to mean a food which consists of an ingredient, either meat, vegetable, or a spread like peanut butter between two slices of bread.
WarGamer
(12,437 posts)johnp3907
(3,730 posts)(See what I did there? )
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Ugh. As a German whose second language is English, I have always taken particular care to about spelling, grammar, and proper usage of words. This word is just wrong. There is no reason to add it to a dictionary. Just teach people to use the correct word instead.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)So it's still wrong
Takket
(21,563 posts)Maru Kitteh
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WarGamer
(12,437 posts)One word at a time.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Do we really want to live in a world where when enough people say shit wrong we just say "ok fuck it, you win." ?
This is so good, you get free "reign" on this thread.
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Silver Swan
(1,110 posts)Now it sounds normal.
mackdaddy
(1,526 posts)I ain't got nuthin.....
Chautauquas
(4,440 posts)That's my new word. I need to contact dictionary.com immediately.