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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:11 PM Mar 2021

Is Cuomo being given less benefit of doubt now than Putin's Whore?

I'm asking this cause it looks like even the left was willing to go through investigations into Putin's Whore's actions even AFTER Trump admitted he was sexual predator in a recording !!

The more Cuomo is pressured into resigning BEFORE an investigation is done the more things look funny.

This goes into my "the left doesn't like authoritarians much" bucket when it looks like on the face of it the correct thing isn't being done by asking for a resignation before investigations are done.

Again, if Cuomo is an asshole he can go fuck himself but resigning before an investigation is complete isn't doing the right thing.

Yeah, ... something aint right

P.S. it also bothers me Cuomo has gotten more mention on talking head shows than HR1 which will define America's union to come. Imagine if the people who tacitly support the justification for the 1/6 terrorist attack are back in power, what's going to happen to the American Experiment? Yeah, there wont be one.

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Is Cuomo being given less benefit of doubt now than Putin's Whore? (Original Post) uponit7771 Mar 2021 OP
Lindsey Boylan threatened Schumer and Gillibrand Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2021 #1
ah, is this Lindsey person a conservative? thx in advance uponit7771 Mar 2021 #2
She is one of Cuomo's accusers Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2021 #4
Figures. Gravel Institute Budi Mar 2021 #32
+1. The alt-left Rose Twitter types, radius777 Mar 2021 #60
And ride on the platform of the Democrats they despise. Budi Mar 2021 #72
Was Steve Schmidt his campaign manager? LakeArenal Mar 2021 #69
Not SSchmidt. A 19 yr old HS Senior named Mike Oaks Budi Mar 2021 #73
Gravel turns 91 in exactly 2 months Celerity Mar 2021 #84
WOW !! So some of this shit has non left money backing. Yep, investigate uponit7771 Mar 2021 #90
Yup. Budi Mar 2021 #91
You need to know that virtually all of his accusers are Democrats whathehell Mar 2021 #31
It doesn't matter what they call themselves dianaredwing Mar 2021 #33
It matters when you're a Democratic Governor, whathehell Mar 2021 #52
There are plenty Dems in name only. As we've seen emerge in the past years. Budi Mar 2021 #36
Yes, and there are plenty of MEN, especially those in power, who whathehell Mar 2021 #46
Really? I've never heard Cuomo described that way until now. Budi Mar 2021 #54
This New Yorker can confirm, that's pretty much how we view Cuomo. Decoy of Fenris Mar 2021 #56
Again, that "we" can be two people and not even a plurality of his staff. Rodent sex uponit7771 Mar 2021 #81
How much sexual assault is acceptable to you? How many rapes is "Okay" unless it's a plurality? EDIT Decoy of Fenris Mar 2021 #86
None after a proper investigation which hasn't been done right? Cause your question ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #87
Seriously? It's been well covered in recent news, in fact whathehell Mar 2021 #70
That's recently, I also never heard about this crap last year or the year before. uponit7771 Mar 2021 #88
Thank you. Budi Mar 2021 #92
Whatever whathehell Mar 2021 #93
I don't think this is correct relative to the people bank rolling Boylan and she called out Biden an uponit7771 Mar 2021 #80
We're talking about seven accusers.. whathehell Mar 2021 #94
Hmm MustLoveBeagles Mar 2021 #7
Something Smells - This changes everything Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #39
Something ain't right. bamagal62 Mar 2021 #3
the patriarchy oioioi Mar 2021 #47
This has nothing to do with Trump ripcord Mar 2021 #5
This is false on its face relatively speaking, people were willing to investigate Trump but not ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #6
How are we supposed to have a real investigation when the accused pnwmom Mar 2021 #26
It often happens that a person is still in the workplace dflprincess Mar 2021 #28
Just call for "due process" when you know the investigation is rigged from the start. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #42
Rigged? crimycarny Mar 2021 #67
Latia James is going to over see a rigged investigation?! Yeah, you've gone too far ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #75
James is running and independent investigation with subpoena power uponit7771 Mar 2021 #74
When did we investigate trump? Cuomo is saying to investigate. onecaliberal Mar 2021 #65
Understood but people want Cuomo to leave before the investigation is over. uponit7771 Mar 2021 #76
I want to wait for the end of due process. onecaliberal Mar 2021 #89
Maybe not yet n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2021 #8
Right ?! It's the MO of the Russians to brute force a good candidate with unverifiable accusations uponit7771 Mar 2021 #9
They want us to fight among ourselves Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2021 #11
+1 dalton99a Mar 2021 #22
Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul would make a fine Governor. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #25
Who? gldstwmn Mar 2021 #61
The Lt. Gov. who beat the Republican by 24 points in 2018. nt pnwmom Mar 2021 #63
On Cuomo's coattails. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #68
RIGHT !! uponit7771 Mar 2021 #77
She's known across the state. He won with a big assist from her. pnwmom Mar 2021 #85
If she can win reelection yes, by that time Red Don's ability to be pardoned will come up uponit7771 Mar 2021 #83
perhaps not dianaredwing Mar 2021 #34
+1, and HR1 seeing without it we don't have a union uponit7771 Mar 2021 #82
I would rather wait UpInArms Mar 2021 #10
I think we all are pretty confident Trumps guilt. Using a sexist slur to make your point is grand. LizBeth Mar 2021 #12
This is also false on its face, 1 Whore can apply to males and females and 2. Even if we were ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #13
Sure it can and so that makes it all nifty. LizBeth Mar 2021 #15
No I didn't imply he was being picked on because of Trump, that's also false and I made the ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #17
Due process has nothing to do with an investigation of a politician. pnwmom Mar 2021 #27
It's called an independent investigation crimycarny Mar 2021 #41
The boss should step aside from supervising witnesses pnwmom Mar 2021 #44
Tell that to the AG Letita James crimycarny Mar 2021 #48
As long as the witnesses report to the person accused, and are dependent on this person pnwmom Mar 2021 #55
By that logic any official being investigated radius777 Mar 2021 #62
Not step down permanently. But step aside with regard to supervising pnwmom Mar 2021 #64
That would make the process a punishment, no ... dems have got this. Letita James can run an... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #79
+1000 crimycarny Mar 2021 #66
Letita James is more credible than someone non-objective skepticism. Looks like Rodent sex and it .. uponit7771 Mar 2021 #78
Ikr? Never ceases to amaze me. brer cat Mar 2021 #14
But hey... It is for men and women. For real. I hear you, lol. LizBeth Mar 2021 #16
Progress requires constant effort... oioioi Mar 2021 #53
I have one comment. mzmolly Mar 2021 #18
+ 1 musette_sf Mar 2021 #20
Never forget Al Franken. dalton99a Mar 2021 #23
Exactly! dflprincess Mar 2021 #29
I agree. mzmolly Mar 2021 #35
K & R I miss your Senator too. Budi Mar 2021 #37
. mzmolly Mar 2021 #38
+100000000000 crimycarny Mar 2021 #43
Indeed. mzmolly Mar 2021 #45
Straight off the Gravel Institutes website. Phoenix61 Mar 2021 #19
He was a Libertarian till he found opportunity running as a Dem instead Budi Mar 2021 #40
The purity police specializes in character assassinations of Democrats, not Republicans dalton99a Mar 2021 #21
Hear hear! mzmolly Mar 2021 #24
I totally agree. The more it looks like a lynching mob, the less credibility it has with me. BComplex Mar 2021 #30
It's starting to remind me of the phrase "vigilante justice" like we should littlemissmartypants Mar 2021 #49
Why can't at least democrats wait for the investigation to kacekwl Mar 2021 #50
I agree azureblue Mar 2021 #51
And a few have withdrawn their accusations MustLoveBeagles Mar 2021 #57
Something ain't right. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #58
EVeryone does seem pretty primed to start throwing dirt on him before the evidence is in. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #59
The extreme left version of fascism Meowmee Mar 2021 #71

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,790 posts)
4. She is one of Cuomo's accusers
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:17 PM
Mar 2021

who is accepting help from the Gravel Institute-she describes herself as "progressive"

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
32. Figures. Gravel Institute
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:59 PM
Mar 2021
Mike Gravel, former Libertarian turned Democrat, entered the 2020 race, suspended his campaign in Aug 2019.

*August 7, 2019: Gravel, who suspended his presidential campaign on August 6, clarified that he was endorsing both Sanders and Gabbard.

*August 6, 2019: Gravel suspended his presidential campaign and endorsed Bernie Sanders.

*July 31, 2019: The Gravel campaign tweeted it was coming to an end. The campaign would donate its funds to charity and form the Gravel Institute, a self-described leftist think tank.

*July 20, 2019: The Gravel campaign called on John Delaney, John Hickenlooper, and Tim Ryan to withdraw from the presidential race since none of them qualified for the debates via grassroots fundraising while Gravel had met that threshold.

*July 18, 2019: In an interview with The National Interest, Gravel discussed his presidential campaign, foreign policy, and the debate qualifications. He said his campaign would “make an investigation whether or not the DNC turned my name into these various polls that were being taken.”

Gravel is 88 yrs old.

Pretty clear where this Boylan bs came from & where it's headed.

Btw Gravel Institute is a rather freaky old school think tank with serious overtones of Libertarianism.

It figures where the Cuomo salacious bs had its beginning.

The horseshoe in not just a theory, afterall...imo.

radius777

(3,624 posts)
60. +1. The alt-left Rose Twitter types,
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:55 AM
Mar 2021

who tend to be propped up by the right wing and Russians, and who hate Dems more than anyone.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
72. And ride on the platform of the Democrats they despise.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 02:30 AM
Mar 2021

I have yet to read or hear one positive thing about Democrats from any of those people

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
73. Not SSchmidt. A 19 yr old HS Senior named Mike Oaks
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 02:33 AM
Mar 2021

David E. Oks (/ɒks/) is an American political activist, best known for organizing and managing the Mike Gravel 2020 presidential campaign as a high school senior.
Known for: Managing the Mike Gravel 2020 presidential campaign
Born: David E. Oks; 2001 (age 19)

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
91. Yup.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 02:27 PM
Mar 2021

Lob a sorta half-truth bomb, shove it to the media, start a fundraising PAC.
Answer for nothing. Move on.




whathehell

(28,969 posts)
31. You need to know that virtually all of his accusers are Democrats
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:53 PM
Mar 2021

This isn't a right wing hatchet job.

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
33. It doesn't matter what they call themselves
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:00 AM
Mar 2021

The timing of this is extraordinarily suspect. No one should resign without an investigation, and I think that also should be the case with the awful repugs we would like to be rid of. Let's investigate them and then make them resign.

I certainly support any woman who has been sexually used or abused, but everyone deserves their day in court, even number 45.

whathehell

(28,969 posts)
52. It matters when you're a Democratic Governor,
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:32 AM
Mar 2021

the son of another Dem governor - Your can be sure he understands party loyalty, and that these female democratic aides were thoroughly vetted.
This has NOTHING to do with the need for an investigation -- I favor that, but please understand that Cuomo's situation is not at all like that of Al Franken.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
36. There are plenty Dems in name only. As we've seen emerge in the past years.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:04 AM
Mar 2021

Some wear the D for opportunity of advancment.
Its been a growing pattern we've all witnessed.

whathehell

(28,969 posts)
46. Yes, and there are plenty of MEN, especially those in power, who
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:20 AM
Mar 2021

are bullies and sexual harassers, and they are in both parties..

My understanding is that Cuomo has a long reputation as a bully of both women AND men.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
54. Really? I've never heard Cuomo described that way until now.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:34 AM
Mar 2021

Appears to be a fair amount of women & men in power positions & some bullying their way into power positions by hearsay & salacious character assassinations with no merit nor proof.
There are ways to climb that ladder to name recognition, fame & fortune. Some do so by their own due diligence & some climb it by stepping on the backs of others.




 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
56. This New Yorker can confirm, that's pretty much how we view Cuomo.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:43 AM
Mar 2021

Guy's always been seen as a bit of a sleezebag outside NYC, but he's a Dem and he kept most of his "transgressions" private, so no one said much outside of rumors. Comes as exactly 0 surprise that these allegations are coming out though. An old coworker of mine used to work beneath him, and he said he had to quit because of just how (To quote him) "Mob-like" the administration was.


I'm in favor of the investigations going forward, but I don't expect Cuomo to last, and I honestly expect more women to come forward about him. My personal -opinion- is that it's best that Cuomo resigns, as we have a perfectly good backup, and with Cuomo polling in the low 30s for approval, I'd rather have a fresh, strong Dem candidate for election rather than Cuomo taking another crack. Realistically, Republicans won't take this seat UNLESS Cuomo stays on and keeps giving people reasons to vote against him.

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
86. How much sexual assault is acceptable to you? How many rapes is "Okay" unless it's a plurality? EDIT
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 05:00 AM
Mar 2021

On Edit: I'm not saying that Cuomo raped anyone. I doubt it -in the extreme- if anyone claims it. But sexual assault is no matter upon which to fuck about, let alone whinging about a "Plurality" of employees claiming said assault.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
87. None after a proper investigation which hasn't been done right? Cause your question ...
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 11:34 AM
Mar 2021

... has nothing to do with possibly one or two people not giving Cuomo the benefit of the doubt in that SWAG poll the outlet took.

whathehell

(28,969 posts)
70. Seriously? It's been well covered in recent news, in fact
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 01:19 AM
Mar 2021

Chris Hayes had two well known left leaning journalists, Rebecca Traistor and Jane Meyer talking about it on tonight's show. The former, Rebecca Traister has written an article in New York Magazine on Cuomo administration's toxic culture.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
80. I don't think this is correct relative to the people bank rolling Boylan and she called out Biden an
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 04:04 AM
Mar 2021

... and Harris.

This looks like rodent sex

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
39. Something Smells - This changes everything
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:11 AM
Mar 2021

So Lindsey Boylan is starting a PAC against Schumer and Gullibrand? Why? did they sexually harass her? I will always side against the predator, but this changes everything.

If my dream job ended due to sexual harassment, I would be curled up in a ball and devastated. But Lindsey Boylan is starting a PAC against Schumer and Gullibrand because they have been silent?? Something smells and now calls into question her credibility and possibly the other women.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
6. This is false on its face relatively speaking, people were willing to investigate Trump but not ...
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:21 PM
Mar 2021

... Cuomo.

Fuck that, we're fans and not cheerleaders

This looks like rodent sex

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
26. How are we supposed to have a real investigation when the accused
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:43 PM
Mar 2021

is still the BOSS of some off the people being interviewed?

Why hasn't he stepped aside so an impartial investigation can be conducted?

His call for an investigation is all for show -- which you would recognize if this concerned Trump instead of your fav, Cuomo.

dflprincess

(28,057 posts)
28. It often happens that a person is still in the workplace
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:46 PM
Mar 2021

while the person they're accusing is also still there and, yes, even the boss.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
75. Latia James is going to over see a rigged investigation?! Yeah, you've gone too far ...
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 03:55 AM
Mar 2021

... in the rhetoric or you don't understand what's happened so far.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
9. Right ?! It's the MO of the Russians to brute force a good candidate with unverifiable accusations
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:24 PM
Mar 2021

... then get said candidate replaced with an easier to beat person.

I'm thinking the kGQP think all women would be easy to beat and around that time would be the cases against Putin's Whore ending into verdicts.

James looks like she's stars and bars and isn't intimidated so time to go after Cuomo.

I pray he holds up

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
85. She's known across the state. He won with a big assist from her.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 04:45 AM
Mar 2021

This piece was written about her last October, before any of these allegations were made.

Hochul's back as New York's campaign warrior

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/kathy-hochul-democrats-new-york-424760

Hochul was briefly sidelined from her breakneck travel schedule during the peak of the coronavirus pandemic in New York, but she has now resumed a version of it — zipping around the state for economic development events and small business (re) openings. She’s maintained a newfound radio presence, conducting upwards of 400 media interviews since the start of the pandemic.

In recent months, a separate but equally loaded campaign schedule shows up alongside her daily events, though she is not running for anything in 2020. As her boss, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, remains close to home and focused on public health issues, the nation’s longest serving female lieutenant governor is the highest elected official rallying New York’s Democrats for November's elections.

State Democratic Chair Jay Jacobs said that’s part of the pair’s yin and yang, especially as Cuomo’s energy remains focused on maintaining control over the virus that ravaged the state earlier this spring and may yet do so again.

“The governor wants this,” Jacobs said. “He is very much about winning these down ballot races — while he has to take care of the matters of the government right now, he certainly wants Kathy Hochul out there flying the flag.”

Tom Perez, chair of the Democratic National Committee, described Hochul as a "force of nature," adding that "she has been essential to building a deep bench of strong Democratic leaders in New York State and across the country."

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
34. perhaps not
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:02 AM
Mar 2021

but it does divert the attention of the media and those who follow it from other stories such as Trump's problems with Vance and all. Even if he doesn't give a flying f....about Cuomo, it creates a very successful diversion.

UpInArms

(51,253 posts)
10. I would rather wait
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:24 PM
Mar 2021

for a thorough investigation

I am sick and tired of allowing mud to be flung (and drowning) democratic politicians who threaten the republicans

Sometimes, we are our own worst enemies.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
13. This is also false on its face, 1 Whore can apply to males and females and 2. Even if we were ...
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:31 PM
Mar 2021

... confident I made the point a couple of times we were willing to go through the process of investigations which looks like a lot of people in the media want to forgo when it comes to Cuomo.

Fuck that noise

Als, you're intimating that Cuomo ... MIGHT NOT ... be guilty by correctly claiming we were confident of Trumps non innocence.

Isn't that more reason for investigations into Cuomo?

Something aint right ... looks like rodent sex

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
15. Sure it can and so that makes it all nifty.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:33 PM
Mar 2021

You implied he was being picked on cause... Trump.

That is all I called out. Whatever other story you have has nothing to do with me.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
17. No I didn't imply he was being picked on because of Trump, that's also false and I made the ...
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:36 PM
Mar 2021

... comparison between the willingness of due process between the two individuals relevant and clear.

Do you read all of my OP?

thx in advance

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
27. Due process has nothing to do with an investigation of a politician.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:45 PM
Mar 2021

How many times did we hear that while Trump was being impeached?

But pretend it did. How can you have due process when the ACCUSED is the BOSS of the witnesses?

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
41. It's called an independent investigation
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:14 AM
Mar 2021

Which is what is happening. There are many many many cases similar to this where the accused is the boss of the witness. So those cases shouldn’t be investigated either?

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
44. The boss should step aside from supervising witnesses
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:17 AM
Mar 2021

if a fair and independent investigation is really the aim.

Otherwise it's just a show investigation.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
48. Tell that to the AG Letita James
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:21 AM
Mar 2021

I think she is fully capable of running a true investigation. Sounds you don’t though.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
55. As long as the witnesses report to the person accused, and are dependent on this person
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:42 AM
Mar 2021

for their job, and for future job recommendations, I don't think anyone, including James, could do a fair investigation.

The witness testimony will be under duress and possibly tainted.

And all DUers would grasp this if a Republican were the one being investigated, and his staffers were the ones who were supposed to be witnesses -- while they continued to work for him.

It's not a difficult concept.

radius777

(3,624 posts)
62. By that logic any official being investigated
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 01:04 AM
Mar 2021

would have to resign, since lots of people usually work under them. That would mean anyone could make an accusation to bring an innocent person down.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
64. Not step down permanently. But step aside with regard to supervising
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 01:06 AM
Mar 2021

the people who need to be witnesses.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
79. That would make the process a punishment, no ... dems have got this. Letita James can run an...
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 04:02 AM
Mar 2021

... independent investigation.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
78. Letita James is more credible than someone non-objective skepticism. Looks like Rodent sex and it ..
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 04:01 AM
Mar 2021

... aint working.

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
53. Progress requires constant effort...
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:32 AM
Mar 2021

thank you for so concisely identifying what's at the very heart of this matter.

Phoenix61

(16,954 posts)
19. Straight off the Gravel Institutes website.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:03 PM
Mar 2021

“A JUST ECONOMY
We live under capitalism, an economic system which engages in the exploitation of billions of people around the world. The Institute advocates creating a more equal and just economy by democratizing ownership and redistributing wealth in America and around the world.”

This is who is bankrolling Boylan.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
40. He was a Libertarian till he found opportunity running as a Dem instead
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:12 AM
Mar 2021

He's 88 yrs old & ran for 2020 Pres, suspended his campaign & endorsed Sanders & Gabbard

He then began the Gravel Institute which sounds more Libertarian than anything else.

He's a multimillionare himself, btw.

Some comedian is managing the institute now I believe.
It's a little creepy to be honest.


dalton99a

(81,073 posts)
21. The purity police specializes in character assassinations of Democrats, not Republicans
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:31 PM
Mar 2021

Impeach Cuomo if he is unfit. Prosecute him if he committed a crime.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
30. I totally agree. The more it looks like a lynching mob, the less credibility it has with me.
Fri Mar 12, 2021, 11:51 PM
Mar 2021

I say we need to seriously investigate. The part about messing with the covid numbers in nursing homes is one thing....all these sexual accusations are piling on....immediately and simultaneously.

That's a serious "coincidence". Atty. Gen. James was really pissed at Cuomo for what he did. This other sexual assault mess that the media is becoming hysterical over is something else.

littlemissmartypants

(22,418 posts)
49. It's starting to remind me of the phrase "vigilante justice" like we should
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:23 AM
Mar 2021

Line up the most vicious dogs and just throw all accused men in a pit with them.

kacekwl

(6,994 posts)
50. Why can't at least democrats wait for the investigation to
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:29 AM
Mar 2021

call for resignation ? I understand republicans want him out. He insists he's innocent so he should get the same benefit his accusers do. This makes no sense to me in more ways the one.

azureblue

(2,131 posts)
51. I agree
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:31 AM
Mar 2021

This is a pile on, and so far, nothing has any substance. And a few have withdrawn their accusations. It has all the earmarks of a smear campaign, politically motivated. Further, the accusations so far are of unwanted touching, and nothing more. When the unwanted touching is described, it doesn't rise to the level of sexual advances. So until there is a trial and the accusers make sworn testimony with factual support then I think it's all crap. I think the only accusation that has been verified is that he can be a real asshole when he wants to be.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,563 posts)
57. And a few have withdrawn their accusations
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:48 AM
Mar 2021

Really? Do you have a link for that? It not that I don't believe you it's just that I haven't seen that anywhere.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
59. EVeryone does seem pretty primed to start throwing dirt on him before the evidence is in.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:55 AM
Mar 2021

You'd think that at least the Ds would have learned something from Al Franken's awful demise.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
71. The extreme left version of fascism
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 01:43 AM
Mar 2021

Is now trial by media to force the target out. It is sad to see what this country has become these past 4-5 years on so many levels.

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