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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Cuomo being given less benefit of doubt now than Putin's Whore?
I'm asking this cause it looks like even the left was willing to go through investigations into Putin's Whore's actions even AFTER Trump admitted he was sexual predator in a recording !!
The more Cuomo is pressured into resigning BEFORE an investigation is done the more things look funny.
This goes into my "the left doesn't like authoritarians much" bucket when it looks like on the face of it the correct thing isn't being done by asking for a resignation before investigations are done.
Again, if Cuomo is an asshole he can go fuck himself but resigning before an investigation is complete isn't doing the right thing.
Yeah, ... something aint right
P.S. it also bothers me Cuomo has gotten more mention on talking head shows than HR1 which will define America's union to come. Imagine if the people who tacitly support the justification for the 1/6 terrorist attack are back in power, what's going to happen to the American Experiment? Yeah, there wont be one.
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,790 posts)that she would form a PAC to defeat them if they didn't call for Cuomo's resignation
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/12/former-cuomo-aide-lindsey-boylan-plans-to-launch-pac-against-schumer-gillibrand-.html
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Just_Vote_Dem
(2,790 posts)who is accepting help from the Gravel Institute-she describes herself as "progressive"
Budi
(15,325 posts)*August 7, 2019: Gravel, who suspended his presidential campaign on August 6, clarified that he was endorsing both Sanders and Gabbard.
*August 6, 2019: Gravel suspended his presidential campaign and endorsed Bernie Sanders.
*July 31, 2019: The Gravel campaign tweeted it was coming to an end. The campaign would donate its funds to charity and form the Gravel Institute, a self-described leftist think tank.
*July 20, 2019: The Gravel campaign called on John Delaney, John Hickenlooper, and Tim Ryan to withdraw from the presidential race since none of them qualified for the debates via grassroots fundraising while Gravel had met that threshold.
*July 18, 2019: In an interview with The National Interest, Gravel discussed his presidential campaign, foreign policy, and the debate qualifications. He said his campaign would make an investigation whether or not the DNC turned my name into these various polls that were being taken.
Gravel is 88 yrs old.
Pretty clear where this Boylan bs came from & where it's headed.
Btw Gravel Institute is a rather freaky old school think tank with serious overtones of Libertarianism.
It figures where the Cuomo salacious bs had its beginning.
The horseshoe in not just a theory, afterall...imo.
radius777
(3,624 posts)who tend to be propped up by the right wing and Russians, and who hate Dems more than anyone.
Budi
(15,325 posts)I have yet to read or hear one positive thing about Democrats from any of those people
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)David E. Oks (/ɒks/) is an American political activist, best known for organizing and managing the Mike Gravel 2020 presidential campaign as a high school senior.
Known for: Managing the Mike Gravel 2020 presidential campaign
Born: David E. Oks; 2001 (age 19)
Celerity
(42,666 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Lob a sorta half-truth bomb, shove it to the media, start a fundraising PAC.
Answer for nothing. Move on.
whathehell
(28,969 posts)This isn't a right wing hatchet job.
dianaredwing
(406 posts)The timing of this is extraordinarily suspect. No one should resign without an investigation, and I think that also should be the case with the awful repugs we would like to be rid of. Let's investigate them and then make them resign.
I certainly support any woman who has been sexually used or abused, but everyone deserves their day in court, even number 45.
whathehell
(28,969 posts)the son of another Dem governor - Your can be sure he understands party loyalty, and that these female democratic aides were thoroughly vetted.
This has NOTHING to do with the need for an investigation -- I favor that, but please understand that Cuomo's situation is not at all like that of Al Franken.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Some wear the D for opportunity of advancment.
Its been a growing pattern we've all witnessed.
whathehell
(28,969 posts)are bullies and sexual harassers, and they are in both parties..
My understanding is that Cuomo has a long reputation as a bully of both women AND men.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Appears to be a fair amount of women & men in power positions & some bullying their way into power positions by hearsay & salacious character assassinations with no merit nor proof.
There are ways to climb that ladder to name recognition, fame & fortune. Some do so by their own due diligence & some climb it by stepping on the backs of others.
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)Guy's always been seen as a bit of a sleezebag outside NYC, but he's a Dem and he kept most of his "transgressions" private, so no one said much outside of rumors. Comes as exactly 0 surprise that these allegations are coming out though. An old coworker of mine used to work beneath him, and he said he had to quit because of just how (To quote him) "Mob-like" the administration was.
I'm in favor of the investigations going forward, but I don't expect Cuomo to last, and I honestly expect more women to come forward about him. My personal -opinion- is that it's best that Cuomo resigns, as we have a perfectly good backup, and with Cuomo polling in the low 30s for approval, I'd rather have a fresh, strong Dem candidate for election rather than Cuomo taking another crack. Realistically, Republicans won't take this seat UNLESS Cuomo stays on and keeps giving people reasons to vote against him.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)On Edit: I'm not saying that Cuomo raped anyone. I doubt it -in the extreme- if anyone claims it. But sexual assault is no matter upon which to fuck about, let alone whinging about a "Plurality" of employees claiming said assault.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... has nothing to do with possibly one or two people not giving Cuomo the benefit of the doubt in that SWAG poll the outlet took.
whathehell
(28,969 posts)Chris Hayes had two well known left leaning journalists, Rebecca Traistor and Jane Meyer talking about it on tonight's show. The former, Rebecca Traister has written an article in New York Magazine on Cuomo administration's toxic culture.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Its clear as day what this is about.
whathehell
(28,969 posts)You are, in any case, hearing it now.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... and Harris.
This looks like rodent sex
whathehell
(28,969 posts)Have a nice day.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,563 posts)That's interesting.
Mary in S. Carolina
(1,364 posts)So Lindsey Boylan is starting a PAC against Schumer and Gullibrand? Why? did they sexually harass her? I will always side against the predator, but this changes everything.
If my dream job ended due to sexual harassment, I would be curled up in a ball and devastated. But Lindsey Boylan is starting a PAC against Schumer and Gullibrand because they have been silent?? Something smells and now calls into question her credibility and possibly the other women.
bamagal62
(3,218 posts)Maybe its true. But, it all seems so fishy to me.
oioioi
(1,127 posts)ripcord
(5,084 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... Cuomo.
Fuck that, we're fans and not cheerleaders
This looks like rodent sex
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)is still the BOSS of some off the people being interviewed?
Why hasn't he stepped aside so an impartial investigation can be conducted?
His call for an investigation is all for show -- which you would recognize if this concerned Trump instead of your fav, Cuomo.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)while the person they're accusing is also still there and, yes, even the boss.
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)crimycarny
(1,351 posts)"rigged"....hmmm....where have I heard that term before......
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... in the rhetoric or you don't understand what's happened so far.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)onecaliberal
(32,489 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)onecaliberal
(32,489 posts)Just_Vote_Dem
(2,790 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... then get said candidate replaced with an easier to beat person.
I'm thinking the kGQP think all women would be easy to beat and around that time would be the cases against Putin's Whore ending into verdicts.
James looks like she's stars and bars and isn't intimidated so time to go after Cuomo.
I pray he holds up
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,790 posts)And we fall for it every Goddamned time
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)I'm sure whomever is behind this dog and pony show would like just that.
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)How does she poll on her own? Is she known outside of Albany?
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)pnwmom
(108,925 posts)This piece was written about her last October, before any of these allegations were made.
Hochul's back as New York's campaign warrior
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/kathy-hochul-democrats-new-york-424760
Hochul was briefly sidelined from her breakneck travel schedule during the peak of the coronavirus pandemic in New York, but she has now resumed a version of it zipping around the state for economic development events and small business (re) openings. Shes maintained a newfound radio presence, conducting upwards of 400 media interviews since the start of the pandemic.
In recent months, a separate but equally loaded campaign schedule shows up alongside her daily events, though she is not running for anything in 2020. As her boss, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, remains close to home and focused on public health issues, the nations longest serving female lieutenant governor is the highest elected official rallying New Yorks Democrats for November's elections.
State Democratic Chair Jay Jacobs said thats part of the pairs yin and yang, especially as Cuomos energy remains focused on maintaining control over the virus that ravaged the state earlier this spring and may yet do so again.
The governor wants this, Jacobs said. He is very much about winning these down ballot races while he has to take care of the matters of the government right now, he certainly wants Kathy Hochul out there flying the flag.
Tom Perez, chair of the Democratic National Committee, described Hochul as a "force of nature," adding that "she has been essential to building a deep bench of strong Democratic leaders in New York State and across the country."
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)dianaredwing
(406 posts)but it does divert the attention of the media and those who follow it from other stories such as Trump's problems with Vance and all. Even if he doesn't give a flying f....about Cuomo, it creates a very successful diversion.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)UpInArms
(51,253 posts)for a thorough investigation
I am sick and tired of allowing mud to be flung (and drowning) democratic politicians who threaten the republicans
Sometimes, we are our own worst enemies.
LizBeth
(9,946 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... confident I made the point a couple of times we were willing to go through the process of investigations which looks like a lot of people in the media want to forgo when it comes to Cuomo.
Fuck that noise
Als, you're intimating that Cuomo ... MIGHT NOT ... be guilty by correctly claiming we were confident of Trumps non innocence.
Isn't that more reason for investigations into Cuomo?
Something aint right ... looks like rodent sex
LizBeth
(9,946 posts)You implied he was being picked on cause... Trump.
That is all I called out. Whatever other story you have has nothing to do with me.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... comparison between the willingness of due process between the two individuals relevant and clear.
Do you read all of my OP?
thx in advance
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)How many times did we hear that while Trump was being impeached?
But pretend it did. How can you have due process when the ACCUSED is the BOSS of the witnesses?
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)Which is what is happening. There are many many many cases similar to this where the accused is the boss of the witness. So those cases shouldnt be investigated either?
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)if a fair and independent investigation is really the aim.
Otherwise it's just a show investigation.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)I think she is fully capable of running a true investigation. Sounds you dont though.
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)for their job, and for future job recommendations, I don't think anyone, including James, could do a fair investigation.
The witness testimony will be under duress and possibly tainted.
And all DUers would grasp this if a Republican were the one being investigated, and his staffers were the ones who were supposed to be witnesses -- while they continued to work for him.
It's not a difficult concept.
radius777
(3,624 posts)would have to resign, since lots of people usually work under them. That would mean anyone could make an accusation to bring an innocent person down.
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)the people who need to be witnesses.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... independent investigation.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)Thank you!
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... aint working.
brer cat
(24,402 posts)LizBeth
(9,946 posts)oioioi
(1,127 posts)thank you for so concisely identifying what's at the very heart of this matter.
mzmolly
(50,957 posts)I miss my Senator.
dalton99a
(81,073 posts)dflprincess
(28,057 posts)There needs to be an investigation. Something about this is starting to stink.
mzmolly
(50,957 posts)We have to stop eating our own, based on accusations - alone.
Budi
(15,325 posts)🤬
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)We will never learn it seems....
mzmolly
(50,957 posts)Phoenix61
(16,954 posts)A JUST ECONOMY
We live under capitalism, an economic system which engages in the exploitation of billions of people around the world. The Institute advocates creating a more equal and just economy by democratizing ownership and redistributing wealth in America and around the world.
This is who is bankrolling Boylan.
Budi
(15,325 posts)He's 88 yrs old & ran for 2020 Pres, suspended his campaign & endorsed Sanders & Gabbard
He then began the Gravel Institute which sounds more Libertarian than anything else.
He's a multimillionare himself, btw.
Some comedian is managing the institute now I believe.
It's a little creepy to be honest.
dalton99a
(81,073 posts)Impeach Cuomo if he is unfit. Prosecute him if he committed a crime.
mzmolly
(50,957 posts)BComplex
(7,984 posts)I say we need to seriously investigate. The part about messing with the covid numbers in nursing homes is one thing....all these sexual accusations are piling on....immediately and simultaneously.
That's a serious "coincidence". Atty. Gen. James was really pissed at Cuomo for what he did. This other sexual assault mess that the media is becoming hysterical over is something else.
littlemissmartypants
(22,418 posts)Line up the most vicious dogs and just throw all accused men in a pit with them.
kacekwl
(6,994 posts)call for resignation ? I understand republicans want him out. He insists he's innocent so he should get the same benefit his accusers do. This makes no sense to me in more ways the one.
azureblue
(2,131 posts)This is a pile on, and so far, nothing has any substance. And a few have withdrawn their accusations. It has all the earmarks of a smear campaign, politically motivated. Further, the accusations so far are of unwanted touching, and nothing more. When the unwanted touching is described, it doesn't rise to the level of sexual advances. So until there is a trial and the accusers make sworn testimony with factual support then I think it's all crap. I think the only accusation that has been verified is that he can be a real asshole when he wants to be.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,563 posts)Really? Do you have a link for that? It not that I don't believe you it's just that I haven't seen that anywhere.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,535 posts)You'd think that at least the Ds would have learned something from Al Franken's awful demise.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Is now trial by media to force the target out. It is sad to see what this country has become these past 4-5 years on so many levels.