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Hoochie Coochie Man

(443 posts)
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 07:18 AM Mar 2021

The PC Police are going after Eminem now

They are trying to go after Eminem now. No surprise. It will only get worse. FUCK THE PC POLICE. These clowns need to get a life. If you are one of these folks that feels a need to go after artists like this, piss off. This old punk rocker ain’t having it and no I am not a “conservative” in any way, shape or form. I am a Frank Zappa Democrat. These are ARTISTS not preachers and politicians. Political correctness leads to boring art, boring people, mediocrity, fear, division and stupidity. We don’t need to return to the Tipper Gore era bullcrap. I am with the left but on this front, you progs have fucking lost your minds.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/charlamagne-tha-god-thinks-attempts-191911825.html

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The PC Police are going after Eminem now (Original Post) Hoochie Coochie Man Mar 2021 OP
When I see nonsense like that I ask who benefits. mahina Mar 2021 #1
"They" being Gen Z TikTok-ers eShirl Mar 2021 #2
Some unknowns tweeting stuff isn't news.And Tipper Gore never wanted to cancel JI7 Mar 2021 #3
Tipper Gore? betsuni Mar 2021 #4
I know, right? ck4829 Mar 2021 #16
... lame54 Mar 2021 #21
I think artists like musicians, singers, comedians, etc. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #5
I feel you've been holding this in a long time... ret5hd Mar 2021 #6
Oh my god this was literally a tiktok joke and now the boomers are taking it seriously. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #7
Boomers? Loki Liesmith Mar 2021 #9
They don't give a shit about Dr. Seuss, either, but if there's a "cancel culture" story to be found, WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #14
100% correct. ck4829 Mar 2021 #15
PC Police is a RW term and POV obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #8
Nonsense Loki Liesmith Mar 2021 #10
Have you ever really seen "PC" be used in mass against right wingers? No, right? ck4829 Mar 2021 #12
In this context, it's used to mean "young people who criticize Eminem" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #25
republicons also think Tipper Gore was the sole member of PMRC. nt RandiFan1290 Mar 2021 #11
+1. Be sure to look up these links on the damage the "political correctness" label has done ck4829 Mar 2021 #13
+1000 Celerity Mar 2021 #19
Nobody is going after Eminem. You should be more concerned about your blood pressure ck4829 Mar 2021 #17
Am I a member of the PC Police when I say Eminem can go fuck right off for calling Tyler The Creator Celerity Mar 2021 #18
This Boomer testifies FOR Eminem. Kid Berwyn Mar 2021 #20
Howard Stern is mentioned in that article. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2021 #22
Do those same kids have stan accounts? nolabear Mar 2021 #23
Calm down Eminem has weathered a lot worse that some TikTokers getting pissed off ismnotwasm Mar 2021 #24

mahina

(17,622 posts)
1. When I see nonsense like that I ask who benefits.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 07:40 AM
Mar 2021

We don’t know who is behind any of that and I’m not taking Yahoo’s word for it.

Eminem writes and raps for us when we really need him. I wouldn’t put it past the wingers to try to take him down a notch or two.

You progs? For real?

Elessar Zappa

(13,911 posts)
5. I think artists like musicians, singers, comedians, etc.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 08:22 AM
Mar 2021

should be given a wider latitude when evaluating their art. Eminem isn’t for everyone but he has a right to rap about what he wants to. I’m a huge Frank Zappa fan. I certainly don’t agree with all his lyrics, especially those that are misogynistic. But he’s a brilliant composer and guitar player and he’ll always be on my playlist.

ret5hd

(20,482 posts)
6. I feel you've been holding this in a long time...
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 08:26 AM
Mar 2021

(Tipper Gore?).

But I want to ask a question:
When an artist creates something interesting, isn’t it almost by definition controversial? I mean, if the whole world went “yeah, he’s right!”, I don’t think the artist has said anything interesting.

So, that being said, why you gettin’ so upset over the controversy that you want art to “be”?

Or are you really just wanting a chance to say “you progs have fucking lost your minds”?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
7. Oh my god this was literally a tiktok joke and now the boomers are taking it seriously.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 08:32 AM
Mar 2021
I am with the left but on this front, you progs have fucking lost your minds.
Way to take a stand against the tyranny of Gen Zers online, Hoochie Coochie Man! No PC for the HC!

This old punk rocker ain’t having it and no I am not a “conservative” in any way, shape or form. I am a Frank Zappa Democrat.
Dude called himself a "practical conservative," so which is it?

Political correctness leads to boring art, boring people, mediocrity, fear, division and stupidity.
Could be. But examining art critically is never a bad thing.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
14. They don't give a shit about Dr. Seuss, either, but if there's a "cancel culture" story to be found,
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 09:20 AM
Mar 2021

they are right there to say it's the end of the world.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
8. PC Police is a RW term and POV
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 08:47 AM
Mar 2021

So, maybe not use that term and have that POV. He also called himself a "practical conservative," and was basically a Reagan Democrat.

So, why exactly are you stating you are a practical conservation, using "PC Police," and think PC is bad? And, you STILL think any of that is progressive or Democratic ideals?

ck4829

(35,038 posts)
12. Have you ever really seen "PC" be used in mass against right wingers? No, right?
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 09:12 AM
Mar 2021

It only magically exists to terminate thoughts associated with the left. Isn't that funny?

It is a trap. Political correctness is one of the brilliant tools that the American Right developed in the mid-1980s as part of its demolition of American liberalism.

What the sharpest thinkers on the American Right saw quickly was that by declaring war on the cultural manifestations of liberalism - by levelling the charge of political correctness against its exponents - they could discredit the whole political project. Rush Limbaugh, the right-wing talk-show host, talking about 'feminazis', is part of the same movement as Allan Bloom, whose seminal book, The Closing of the American Mind , argues that political correctness has infected the US's capacity to think. This is the populist battering-ram behind which the Right makes the case for tax cuts for the wealthy and welfare minimalism for the poor.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/dec/16/race.world


Other than some shrewd observers, you don't see "... the PC police" when conservatives are demanding they be called "freedom fries" or when they want to boycott companies when the cashier says "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas".

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
25. In this context, it's used to mean "young people who criticize Eminem"
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:49 PM
Mar 2021

Is that "police"? Are you saying they shouldn't be allowed to express a negative view on Eminem? Because that's all they've done.

ck4829

(35,038 posts)
13. +1. Be sure to look up these links on the damage the "political correctness" label has done
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 09:13 AM
Mar 2021

Hutton believes that the term "politically correct" is just a weapon to be used against Liberals and the income and racial equality that Liberals bring to the table. "Political correctness is one of the brilliant tools that the American Right developed in the mid-1980s as part of its demolition of American liberalism....What the sharpest thinkers on the American Right saw quickly was that by declaring war on the cultural manifestations of liberalism - by leveling the charge of political correctness against its exponents - they could discredit the whole political project."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/dec/16/race.world

"the phrase is an empty rightwing smear designed only to elevate its user."
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2001/dec/12/communities.comment

ck4829

(35,038 posts)
17. Nobody is going after Eminem. You should be more concerned about your blood pressure
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 09:32 AM
Mar 2021

But if Tipper Gore is such a concern to you, it also sounds like you should be worried about the horse-and-buggy and the telegram being "canceled".

"While it’s debatable if people even want to “cancel” Eminem"
- From the very article you link to. That means one can say it's not even happening

Celerity

(43,124 posts)
18. Am I a member of the PC Police when I say Eminem can go fuck right off for calling Tyler The Creator
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 09:44 AM
Mar 2021

a fa%%ot in 2018?

If so give my badge.

Also, PC Police is a RW term, so sad to see this bollocks pushed here.




Tyler, the Creator on Eminem’s Homophobic Diss: ‘I Knew What the Intent Was’

https://www.complex.com/music/2019/10/tyler-the-creator-speaks-on-eminem-homophobic-diss

Kid Berwyn

(14,804 posts)
20. This Boomer testifies FOR Eminem.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 11:22 AM
Mar 2021

Don’t know him directly. My friends who DO, say he’s the most generous rich person they’ve ever met.

FTR: I know several people who have worked for, and with, the guy. As far as I know, they don’t know one another.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
22. Howard Stern is mentioned in that article.
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:05 PM
Mar 2021

I'm sure he has said things in he regrets and I'm sure Marshall Mathers has lyricized things he regrets.

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
23. Do those same kids have stan accounts?
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:12 PM
Mar 2021

Should we tell them?

I’ve always liked Eminem. Hell I like a lot of Kanye. I am never a fan of things that do harm but frankly most people do harm at one point or another. I can love some of the work and hate some. I can love the work and hate the artist. Ad infinitum.

And yeah, I have a line.

ismnotwasm

(41,967 posts)
24. Calm down Eminem has weathered a lot worse that some TikTokers getting pissed off
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 12:31 PM
Mar 2021

The term politically correct just means “I want to be an asshole, let me”

Eminem is insanely talented and yeah some of his lyrics are not cool.

Homophobic slurs are never “ok”

Think I’ll go listen to Aftermath now.

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