Democratic Leaders who've said they think Gov Cuomo is innocent of the accusations against him...

[brooklynite]

(a comprehensive list)

[choie]

1. Boy you're really on a mission

N/t

[hlthe2b]

4. The snark from a handful of posters is endless

[brooklynite]

5. Laying out facts as opposed to conspiracy theories? Yep.

If you aren't aware, I'm not "loyal" to Democratic officials. I support them up to the point where they stop being beneficial in their office. At that point I'll encourage their replacement with a Democrat who will be.

The Governor should look inside his heart to see if he can govern effectively" -- Speaker Pelosi

[Just_Vote_Dem]

16. So everyone who thinks we should wait for the results of an investigation

are conspiracy theorists?

[treestar]

2. Makes no difference

One who is accused get a real investigation and no penalties until there is proof. There is no jury of Democratic leaders.

[kcr]

6. In the meantime he can continue pulling crap like this: (emphasis mine)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cuomo-schwartz-vaccine-calls/2021/03/14/18f2e320-8448-11eb-9ca6-54e187ee4939_story.html

One Democratic county executive was so unsettled by the outreach from Larry Schwartz, head of the state’s vaccine rollout, that the executive on Friday filed notice of an impending ethics complaint with the public integrity unit of the state attorney general’s office, the official told The Washington Post. The executive feared the county’s vaccine supply could suffer if Schwartz was not pleased with the executive’s response to his questions about support of the governor.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

9. So this one person had this fear and filed a notice of impending complaint ...

And automatically Cuomo is guilty of this, too?

[kcr]

10. Wow

So, this conspiracy really goes deep. Were all the other officials called in on it, too?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

12. I'm saying one person filing a notice of intent to complain over a 'feeling'

Doesn't prove that Cuomo is methodically shaking down other state Dems for support by threatening to withhold vaccines from their locales.

If a bunch of people make this same complaint, or a tape recording showing it's happening comes to light, that would change things.

Your post was like 'he's doing it'.

[kcr]

13. Just because he wasn't physically stabbed with a knife

doesn't make what happened okay. The fact that Schwartz was going around calling others is pretty solid evidence.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

17. I disagree that it's 'pretty solid evidence' that there was ever any intent to withhold vaccine

Based on how the question was answered.

The man's normal job would likely normally entail calling around to counties and seeing how the vaccination's are coming along.

His also asking 'how do you feel about what's going on with the governor' as part of the same conversation does not mean that receiving vaccine supplies is contingent on the county Democrat's answer.

However I could see how perhaps one or two (out of many) could decide this was untoward, and decide to complain that they 'felt' like they needed to answer a certain way.

If there was a scheme I'd imagine it was more along the lines of 'polling' the feelings of lower-level Democrats under the guise of official business. Which is arguably slightly untoward but not nearly as bad as actually having a plan to screw the public out of vaccinations.

I think calling it 'solid evidence' of such a horrid scheme ... is a stretch.

[kcr]

19. That question had no place whatsoever

No stretch, here.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

20. I won't assume a Democratic governor would actually withhold vaccine supplies from the public

over the response by a Dem county executive on a phone call re: how they felt about that Governor ... without a lot more solid of evidence than 'they asked the question in the same conversation when vaccines were discussed'.

That's a pretty freaking serious accusation, bordering on attempted murder, basically.

But to each their own.

[brush]

23. Solid evidence of what? To see if there is support of the governor...

resigning or not resigning? What is supposed to be the problem with the calls?

[rgbecker]

7. I'm glad they all waited for the investigation.

Would be sad if anyone were to declare someone innocent before proven...or something like that. How's it go?

Not sure if there will ever be an end to the harassment or accusations without some sort of investigations
that will shed light on what exactly is "permissible" behavior and what is simply unacceptable social interaction.

[LakeArenal]

15. I'm all in on Cuomo's inappropriate behavior.

Until there is an investigation and charges filed that is all it is to me.

Everyone I ever worked for, at least had inappropriate behavior. Including myself.

Ever watch Morgan and Garcia on Criminal Minds? Geez us. That is so inappropriate. Yet, viewers love them for some reason.

Who gets to decide when anyone else’s inappropriate actions rise to criminal?

I won’t judge. I’ll either agree with an investigation result or not.

[lame54]

11. Same as Franken's

[demmiblue]

14. Reccing this because I don't like liars. n/t

[dsc]

18. I have no idea if he is innocent

that is why I want, wait for it, an investigation.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

21. Cuomo deserves due process

I am still mad at what happened to Al Franken

[no_hypocrisy]

22. +1 million

[theneworiginal]

24. He is innocent

...until proven guilty. This is still the way it's done here in the US. That's not to say there isn't reason to doubt him, but he deserves his day in court, so to speak. If there is enough evidence established, there will be plenty of time to get him out. If the evidence of substantial wrongdoing is not there, then another injustice will have been committed if he is convicted and sentenced without due process.

I am ambivalent about the whole thing, but this is where I land.