General Discussion
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Trueblue1968
(17,203 posts)hatrack
(59,583 posts)Nevilledog
(51,064 posts)Ponietz
(2,957 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)I frequently forget that D is 500, and sometimes 4s and 9s throw me because they are the number minus 1.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)is used.
Nevilledog
(51,064 posts)dalton99a
(81,441 posts)of a word, while the "short" s (that looks like s) is used at the end and after the "tall" f. But ff for ss is also common.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Other than the regular s form if it's at the end of a word, creating a plural, that's consistent.
dalton99a
(81,441 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)The form of S is not even done the same in the SAME FREAKING WORD ... 'beasts'.
This is why I was saying I'm totally stumped, I saw the general patterns, but this particular disconnect made me throw up my hands and go 'there is no f***ing system here!'
dalton99a
(81,441 posts)where two letters are conjoined - like fi, fl, st, ff, etc
Typesetters and manuscripts generally followed the 'system' but eventually everyone decided to standardize to the modern s (the ligatures are still used)
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Is what made me give up trying to figure out the fyftem in play here.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)The long s, ſ, is an archaic form of the lower case letter s. It replaced the single s, or one or both of the letters 's' in a 'double s' sequence (e.g. "ſinfulneſs" for "sinfulness" and "poſſeſs" or "poſseſs" for "possess"but never "poſſeſſ" ). The long s is the basis of the first half of the grapheme of the German alphabet ligature letter ß, which is known as the Eszett. The modern letterform is known as the 'short', 'terminal', or 'round' s.
Rules
This list of rules for the long s is not exhaustive, and it applies only to books printed during the 17th and 18th centuries in England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, and other English-speaking countries. Similar rules exist for other European languages.
A round s is always used at the end of a word ending in s: "his", "complains", "succeſs"
However, long s is maintained in abbreviations such as "ſ." for "ſubſtantive" (substantive), and "Geneſ." for "Geneſis" (Genesis)
Before an apostrophe (indicating an omitted letter) a 'round s' is used: "us'd" and "clos'd"
Before and after an f, a 'round s' is used: "offset", "ſatisfaction."
Before a breaking hyphen at the end of the line, a long s must be used: "Shaftſ-
bury". (When hyphenation was not required, the word was spelled Shaftsbury, with a round s.)
In the 17th century the 'round s' was used before k and b: "ask", "husband"; in the 18th century: "aſk" and "huſband".
Otherwise long s is used: "ſong", "ſubſtitute".
In handwriting these rules do not applythe long s is usually confined to preceding a 'round s', either in the middle or at the end of a wordfor example "aſsure", "Bleſsings".