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malaise

(296,105 posts)
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 02:18 PM Mar 2021

Oh My - Official report from CDC - Some Trump Admin Covid Guidance was not-Updated with WP link

grounded in Science as a result of Trump and his goons interference.

Take credit for that you MoFoing murderer!
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Breaking on CNN
Adding Washington Post Link and snip
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/03/15/cdc-removes-some-trump-era-guidance/

CDC identifies public-health guidance from the Trump administration that downplayed pandemic severity
The analysis was done to promote public trust and ensure that the agency’s coronavirus guidance ‘is evidence-based and free of politics,’ a memo says.

March 15, 2021 at 2:13 p.m. GMT-5
Federal health officials have identified several controversial pandemic recommendations released during the Trump administration that they say were “not primarily authored” by staff and don’t reflect the best scientific evidence, based on a review ordered by its new director.

The review identified three documents that had already been removed from the agency’s website: One, released in July, delivered a strong argument for school reopenings and downplayed health risks. A second set of guidelines about the country’s reopening was released in April by the White House and was far less detailed than what had been drafted by the CDC and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. A third guidance issued in August discouraged the testing of people without covid-19 symptoms even when they had contact with infected individuals. That was replaced in September after experts inside and outside the agency raised alarms.

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Oh My - Official report from CDC - Some Trump Admin Covid Guidance was not-Updated with WP link (Original Post) malaise Mar 2021 OP
Indeed. But somehow I knew that. dchill Mar 2021 #1
We all knew that malaise Mar 2021 #2
Ah, reality. The latest endangered specie. dchill Mar 2021 #5
Most important revelation of the day. Hugin Mar 2021 #3
Way more than criminal negligence malaise Mar 2021 #4
I seem to remember Princess Sparkle was personally involved, too. n/t Hugin Mar 2021 #9
Brought to you by the Department of No Shit, Sherlock! GoCubsGo Mar 2021 #6
How many thousands died because of this malaise Mar 2021 #7
Lots of people died, and countless left with permanent damage. GoCubsGo Mar 2021 #11
I don't know what the numbers are, but I suspect the permanently damaged outweigh the deceased. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #17
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! Initech Mar 2021 #8
Clyburn and the House Committee had already told us this malaise Mar 2021 #15
And so this passes from . . . gratuitous Mar 2021 #10
Mass Murderer OMGWTF Mar 2021 #12
THIS KPN Mar 2021 #23
Is there a link yet? Thanks. TheRickles Mar 2021 #13
Here malaise Mar 2021 #18
Any criminal charges or civil lawsuits? IronLionZion Mar 2021 #14
We can hope - this is at least criminal negligence malaise Mar 2021 #19
Probably the same across all policy areas...will take years to expose and undo the damage. nt wiggs Mar 2021 #16
You are correct but that this one had deadly consequences malaise Mar 2021 #20
that article was in WashPo...I want to know how and when the part of the general public wiggs Mar 2021 #21
I'm betting Rachel covers this tonight malaise Mar 2021 #22
Excellent point. Nightly news should cover this... Duppers Mar 2021 #30
Rachel opens with this malaise Mar 2021 #33
Weird phrasing... druidity33 Mar 2021 #24
I did wonder about that malaise Mar 2021 #26
Duh. gibraltar72 Mar 2021 #25
it's been reported that IDIOT IVANKA over-rode CDC doctors on public-facing documents TomDaisy Mar 2021 #27
And the results of that were criminal. nt Duppers Mar 2021 #31
And people still don't believe he was motivated by his ego . He never had covid Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2021 #28
I have always been suspicious malaise Mar 2021 #29
Me too. Don't believe in coincidence. Especially with him. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2021 #37
Clean-up in aisle CDC Danascot Mar 2021 #32
Great coverage on Rachel now malaise Mar 2021 #34
More Criminality spanone Mar 2021 #35
Redfield too malaise Mar 2021 #36

malaise

(296,105 posts)
4. Way more than criminal negligence
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 02:22 PM
Mar 2021

Some call it genocide since he wanted no testing to keep the numbers down

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
6. Brought to you by the Department of No Shit, Sherlock!
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 02:29 PM
Mar 2021

I guess they're admitting what was known by anyone who had been paying attention at the time. No doubt we'll be seeing a lot of this "but for interference by Trump and his goons" stuff in the coming months and years.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
11. Lots of people died, and countless left with permanent damage.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 02:54 PM
Mar 2021

We still don't even know how many longhaulers there are, or what are the long-term consequences of being infected. I really hope it's not just the underlings who suffer the consequences, as is usually the case with criminal GQPers. Those at the top are the ones who really need to pay for this.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
17. I don't know what the numbers are, but I suspect the permanently damaged outweigh the deceased.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:25 PM
Mar 2021

F'ing criminal. No one expected "perfect", especially anyone with even a scintilla of insight into that horrid administration. But a low-mediocre result wouldn't have been considered a complete catastrophe, nor a dereliction bordering on criminal. People would have been resigned to "Well, what can you expect? That probably was their best effort."

While the actual result might have been in the ballpark of "best effort" it falls so short of acceptable as to give synonyms new, more biting definitions.

I hate to use this kind of hyperbole, but their approach, effort and result bordered on "Nuremburg."

malaise

(296,105 posts)
15. Clyburn and the House Committee had already told us this
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:21 PM
Mar 2021
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/08/trump-administration-influenced-cdc-guidance-to-suppress-covid-testing-house-panel-says.html


The Trump administration sought to suppress Covid-19 testing in the United States last year by softening guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on who needed to be tested, a House panel said Monday.

In August, the CDC revised its Covid-19 testing guidance to say that people who don’t have symptoms “do not necessarily need a test” even if they were exposed to an infected person. The move was widely criticized by public health specialists and politicians, who said testing asymptomatic people is an important part of identifying and cutting off chains of spread.

Assistant Secretary for Health Adm. Brett Giroir, who led the Trump administration’s testing effort, at the time firmly denied allegations the White House was pressuring health officials to change the guidance.

But the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis on Monday released newly obtained emails from a political appointee within the Department of Health and Human Services that indicate he pushed for the new guidance.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. And so this passes from . . .
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 02:50 PM
Mar 2021

"Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man" into the realm of officially established fact. Now, whether the person you're talking to believes the CDC is another issue, but at least you have solid ground to assert that the Trump administration actively worked against the scientific and public health experts in getting misinformation out to the public. Actions that continue to mess up our response to the pandemic to this day.

malaise

(296,105 posts)
18. Here
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:25 PM
Mar 2021
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/03/15/cdc-removes-some-trump-era-guidance/

CDC identifies public-health guidance from the Trump administration that downplayed pandemic severity
The analysis was done to promote public trust and ensure that the agency’s coronavirus guidance ‘is evidence-based and free of politics,’ a memo says.

March 15, 2021 at 2:13 p.m. GMT-5
Federal health officials have identified several controversial pandemic recommendations released during the Trump administration that they say were “not primarily authored” by staff and don’t reflect the best scientific evidence, based on a review ordered by its new director.

The review identified three documents that had already been removed from the agency’s website: One, released in July, delivered a strong argument for school reopenings and downplayed health risks. A second set of guidelines about the country’s reopening was released in April by the White House and was far less detailed than what had been drafted by the CDC and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. A third guidance issued in August discouraged the testing of people without covid-19 symptoms even when they had contact with infected individuals. That was replaced in September after experts inside and outside the agency raised alarms.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
14. Any criminal charges or civil lawsuits?
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:18 PM
Mar 2021

It would be GOP/Trump voters who believed these lies and died for it.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
16. Probably the same across all policy areas...will take years to expose and undo the damage. nt
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:23 PM
Mar 2021

malaise

(296,105 posts)
20. You are correct but that this one had deadly consequences
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:30 PM
Mar 2021

Trump and his cronies should die in prison

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
21. that article was in WashPo...I want to know how and when the part of the general public
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:38 PM
Mar 2021

that DOESN'T read WashPo or watch MSNBC will find out about ALL the misdeeds, irresponsibility, corruption, and deceit. Will someone with bipartisan credibility, such as past iconic journalists and news anchors, compile and report on everything...all in one place and time?

Really important that this administration doesn't get whitewashed and papered over.

malaise

(296,105 posts)
22. I'm betting Rachel covers this tonight
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:42 PM
Mar 2021

She hasn't missed a beat on Covid 19. We need to send that segment of her program to our family and friends. Truthfully it should be the lead story on all networks at Prime Time tonight.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
30. Excellent point. Nightly news should cover this...
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:02 PM
Mar 2021

But they won't. Newspapers all over the country should pick up the story, but will they?? Especially in red states.

The PTB don't cover all the truth regarding rethugian lies, especially tRump's.

malaise

(296,105 posts)
33. Rachel opens with this
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 09:02 PM
Mar 2021

Go Rachel!
Says Trump went after CBC's credibility with a baseball bat

druidity33

(6,915 posts)
24. Weird phrasing...
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:52 PM
Mar 2021

"The review identified three documents that had already been removed from the agency’s website: One, released in July, delivered a strong argument for school reopenings and downplayed health risks. A second set of guidelines about the country’s reopening was released in April by the White House and was far less detailed than what had been drafted by the CDC and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. A third guidance issued in August discouraged the testing of people without covid-19 symptoms even when they had contact with infected individuals. That was replaced in September after experts inside and outside the agency raised alarms."

my bolding.

Why is the "first" document in July, the "second" in April and the "third" in August? Should they not go chronologically?

malaise

(296,105 posts)
26. I did wonder about that
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 04:04 PM
Mar 2021

They should start with his lies from January and February and of course the interview with Woodward

 

TomDaisy

(2,120 posts)
27. it's been reported that IDIOT IVANKA over-rode CDC doctors on public-facing documents
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 04:31 PM
Mar 2021

reshaping the reports to make daddy look better

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
28. And people still don't believe he was motivated by his ego . He never had covid
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 04:50 PM
Mar 2021

Nor did Malaria.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
37. Me too. Don't believe in coincidence. Especially with him.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 11:39 PM
Mar 2021

Last edited Tue Mar 16, 2021, 08:29 AM - Edit history (1)

- He wanted people to think Covid no big deal. What better way than to get it and recover from it like you recover from a paper cut.

- He was down in the polls

- He claims he and Malaria have it!

- He shows ZERO proof, not even a simple "positive" piece of paper - for himself and his wife.

- He decides to do a showy helicopter ride out if WH, despite it being an easy drive. Dressed in a suit!

- He takes NO covid WH experts!! From his team of covid experts. No Fauci. No Birx ???

- He goes to a hospital, WR, that's a military hospital and they take orders from the commander in chief only. Not like a regular hospital.

- He moves into a WR private presidential suite, where he can control press coverages with privacy.

- His shill doctor has since been accused of drinking on job. He controls press coverage.

- Miraculously, he's AOK in 3 days! He walks off helicopter like nothing new.

- Meanwhile,. His wife, just days after she's caught on tape using the F word and Christmas in the same sentence, has covid too! Yet we see no proof of positive results nor any doctors that attended to her

- And now we find out they secretly got the vaccine in January?. Why?

Call BULLSHIT. I don't care if he was gasping on the way up the stairs and looked bad. He knows fully about TV makeup and how to act.



malaise

(296,105 posts)
36. Redfield too
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 09:24 PM
Mar 2021

As Rachel said he should have resigned rather than put that shit on CDC's website.

I hope there are consequences for these criminals

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