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DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:06 PM Mar 2021

'Cancel culture'? Sarah Silverman calls it 'righteousness porn' and 'really scary'

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2019-08-12/sarah-silverman-cancel-culture-blackface

Ok sarah, here is why you are wrong.

Some may see this as scary, but if you are on the hammer end of a slur, it is not a joke to you. Remember how you said "there would be dietrus" when you justifiably defended that fact harvey Weinstein was being investigated. You were right because, lo and behold, there was a gusher of toxicity that women in YOUR very industry had to work in. Now...what happened, did one of your sacred oxen got gored? Is it scary that people no long give a pass to people who used power over people. Many of these people were using that against YOU Sarah, like your "friend" adam corolla who is now a right wign darling, and how makes jokes about you that would violate the TOS agreement and the FCC.
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'Cancel culture'? Sarah Silverman calls it 'righteousness porn' and 'really scary' (Original Post) DonCoquixote Mar 2021 OP
Several comedians find this to be a slippery slope. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #1
What they are doing is generalizing Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #2
She's on target Loki Liesmith Mar 2021 #3
Why is it scary? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #4
Cancel Culture can rightly be called Societal judgement. WarGamer Mar 2021 #5
Consequence Culture is not going away. Calling it Cancel Culture feeds into the right-wing's Politicub Mar 2021 #6
I think that it also needs to come with a path to redemption as well sboatcar Mar 2021 #10
Can you provide an example of someone being redeemed? Politicub Mar 2021 #11
Drew Brees. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #15
What was the context of 'really scary'? Did she just mean 'for comedians'? Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2021 #7
Writing comedy and skirting the edge of taste is not easy. Cheap race Politicub Mar 2021 #12
Cancel culture can be oblivious to context and proportion for openers empedocles Mar 2021 #8
Accountability Culture. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #16
I used to like her... but now she's dead to me! Cancelled! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #9
I agree with Sarah. betsuni Mar 2021 #13
Sarah's on point. nt Raine Mar 2021 #14

maxsolomon

(32,918 posts)
1. Several comedians find this to be a slippery slope.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:16 PM
Mar 2021

Silverman has dealt (hilariously) with transgressive topics through her career. She, Maher, Burr, and the like are worried what comedy will be like if you can't cross that line any more.

Could this movement towards showing others respect "go too far"? Sure.

Has it? Meh, in a couple cases I guess. I don't have much worry about the poor Confederate monuments.

But, certainly the RW was able to quickly and successfully weaponize Me, Too against Al Franken.

Johnny2X2X

(18,634 posts)
2. What they are doing is generalizing
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:18 PM
Mar 2021

They are letting the rare cases when cancel culture went too far or was in error dictate their response. Just because there's a number of silly cases, doesn't mean there is a big problem.

WarGamer

(11,965 posts)
5. Cancel Culture can rightly be called Societal judgement.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:33 PM
Mar 2021

But never forget, as Society and Culture changes... things you LIKE may be canceled.

Politicub

(12,162 posts)
6. Consequence Culture is not going away. Calling it Cancel Culture feeds into the right-wing's
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:36 PM
Mar 2021

talking point.

People are canceling with their dollars. I will be damned if I give a penny to a person or an organization that works to curtail my rights.

sboatcar

(406 posts)
10. I think that it also needs to come with a path to redemption as well
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:34 PM
Mar 2021

though lots of people are irredeemable, we all make mistakes, ya know?

Politicub

(12,162 posts)
11. Can you provide an example of someone being redeemed?
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:50 PM
Mar 2021

This has religious overtones.

On edit: It is not my job to give someone offensive the opportunity for redemption. If they decide to change, that’s fine. Whatever. Everyone else will have moved on.

maxsolomon

(32,918 posts)
15. Drew Brees.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:27 PM
Mar 2021

Just today in the NYT article on his retirement.

Discussed how he found fault with the NFL players kneeling because of his association with the Military, and how his teammates made him see the light on the issue. They forgave him that original stance.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. What was the context of 'really scary'? Did she just mean 'for comedians'?
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 03:38 PM
Mar 2021

Or did she mean for society at large?

Cause I'm sure it's a drag for edgy comedians, like her, so I understand that sentiment.

If she's saying it's scary at a societal level, I have to disagree.

She also not entirely wrong, IN SOME CASES ... about the 'righteousness porn' thing.

'Being politically correct' can, and has been ... taken to far IN SOME CASES.

I'm primarily concerned with actual discrimination in housing, banking, education, health care, environment, etc. Or violence against people based on things like race, gender identity, orientation, etc.

I really don't feel like I need to police what comedians or even people on TV say.

Highly influential people with a nat'l stage like Tucker are an exception to that.

Politicub

(12,162 posts)
12. Writing comedy and skirting the edge of taste is not easy. Cheap race
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:53 PM
Mar 2021

jokes and blackface were once part and parcel of what the public deemed as funny.

Things change. Comedians that do not recognize that society changes aren’t very good comedians. So much of comedy is observational humor. If they aren’t able to adapt to the times, then there are others waiting in the wings to move comedy forward.

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