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just now saying Joe Biden has an ENORMOUS ego, likes to hear himself talk.
JI7
(89,288 posts)Cha
(298,047 posts)say that with a straight face.
brush
(53,977 posts)The job requires one to be able to speak extemporaneously and sound credible. If you can't do that, you won't be getting elected.
Paladin
(28,285 posts)mucifer
(23,623 posts)Dagstead Bumwood
(3,685 posts)Cha
(298,047 posts)an "Enormous ego".. Hayes is Projecting Poorly.
mucifer
(23,623 posts)job well and he is doing an EXCELLENT job as President.
Ocelot II
(115,985 posts)But in order for him to have survived and succeeded in politics for this long, he must have a very confident ego. There is nothing wrong with this. I can't think of a single successful politician who's a shrinking violet, but the really good ones are confident without being arrogant d-bags.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)onecaliberal
(32,996 posts)President Biden is so conscientious and kind. He is busy working on the trash heap he was left by the twice impeached, never received the popular vote criminal we overwhelmingly voted out of office in November. Im tired of how people mischaracterize President Biden. I believe he will be one of the most consequential POTUS in my lifetime. Cutting childhood poverty in half and providing access to healthcare for the desperately poor at no cost is a a big effing deal. The money for schools to be safe enough to open, another big deal. Securing enough vaccine for every adult and building the infrastructure to deliver the vaccine to localities and people in 4 months. Especially when nothing existed previously on the scope and scale necessary.
I cant stomach the media. Their reporting is pathetic and 4th grade level mean girl. I dont have to worry that President Biden will burn us to the ground while I sleep and that is the bottom fucking line.
eppur_se_muova
(36,317 posts)2naSalit
(86,943 posts)Too annoying to pay attention to what the guests are saying because he always interrupts and talks over them.
Cha
(298,047 posts)on President Biden.. I can't imagine why?!!
Cha
(298,047 posts)is he to talk about anyone's EGO EXCEPT the Traitor & Magats?!
jorgevlorgan
(8,351 posts)You would need a healthy ego to survive five minutes in the job -or in a campaign. Regardless, it isn't comparable to his predecessor. .
triron
(22,030 posts)That is just irresponsible. Tell him to say that to Joe Biden's face.
Cha
(298,047 posts)a Platform on his show.. No questions asked.. & got all indignant when there was a pushback for him to be FIRED.
Popcorn 51
(84 posts)Ocelot II
(115,985 posts)That's not an evil attribute as long as it doesn't turn you into a raging narcissist like Trump. The large egos of successful, non-evil politicians have made it possible for them to persevere confidently instead of being intimidated into giving up. If you have a fragile ego you'll never get anywhere. I, for example, would be a total failure as a politician because I'd be crushed and miserable over the inevitable unfair criticism, unflattering cartoons and mean tweets, things that don't bother normal, non-pathologically-large-egoed politicians enough to slow them down.
Irish_Dem
(47,928 posts)Also Joe a handsome charmer, and a talker.
That does not mean he has pathological ego, in fact he is much more humble than the GOP leaders.
Cha
(298,047 posts)us Like to hear the Sound of President Biden's Voice.. Telling us about all the Changes he & his Admin are Doing FOR The Country & the American People.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Carney called PBO your president and Hayes didn't correct him and was shocked that he was criticized.
Aloha Cha..
oasis
(49,484 posts)always liked listening to President Biden, at least he's knowledgeable and very calm in his demeanor.
Me.
(35,454 posts)BTW did you ever apologize for having that 'journalist' on to spew false claims of sexual harassment against PJB, not once but twice? You seem to have a problem with our president.
Cha
(298,047 posts)he does have a problem with President. Biden. he seems jealous.
No he never apologized for giving tara reid a platform to spew her lies.
Instead he got all Egocentric Indignant.. & blamed those who pushed back on his propaganda show.
It's known that the Black Community Respect Joe Biden for taking a back seat to President Obama during those 8 years of Serving as his VP..
Didn't see and "Enormous Ego.."
This pisses me off!
Me.
(35,454 posts)cushy job, excellent salary, protected family where his kids aren't hungry or homeless.
Cha
(298,047 posts)If one takes note of who Hayes has been pushing for years.
Raine
(30,541 posts)attracts.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,894 posts)It is hard to forget or forgive the Tara Reade BS
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,894 posts)It is hard to forget or forgive the Tara Reade BS
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,778 posts)All politicians have an ego, it's the only way to survive. But Biden doesn't make everything about him.
mzmolly
(51,018 posts)I watch MSNBC before and after his show.
Duppers
(28,133 posts)LakeArenal
(28,883 posts)I thought he was sleepy joe. Geez us.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,894 posts)I still think that this individual should have been fired for pushing the Tara Reade lies
Bucky
(54,094 posts)I'm currently reading Bob Woodward's book on how Obama managed the politics and logistics of inheriting two wars 2009 to 2010. Biden comes off as a smart, skeptical, domineering guy with very strong opinions and zero hesitation about asserting them.
That more or less gels with the impression I've formed of him after watching him for 35 years and supporting him for president twice. He's not afraid of bold ideas and taking a strong stance at advocating for them. These character traits are assets, but also not without a downside; and they come bundled with a strong ego. that's not bad. People made the same criticism of Obama. That makes them both strong leaders.
Like Obama, I think Biden is a big enough man that he can take criticism constructively.
lame54
(35,345 posts)moonscape
(4,676 posts)prefaced his point by saying Biden has a big ego but contrasted that with how he has not brought that in to his presidency, which was his main point. The ego thing was not a stand alone comment.
betsuni
(25,803 posts)and has no idea about the United States.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)kcr
(15,328 posts)uponit7771
(90,371 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 16, 2021, 11:36 AM - Edit history (1)
Hayes said Biden was ego in the past but right now his whole presidency is low-ego
there are things to bash Hayes on I don't think this is it
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)as Obama's VP, but that manages to ignore his over 40 years in the senate.
As a senator, he was one of 100 in an institution designed (very unlike the far less democratic house) to be slow-moving and deliberative and to encourage independence from each other among the senators, and where people advance slooowly to leadership through longevity over merit. That's where Biden lived it, sublimating any tendencies to overweening self importance to the whole, for decades, including the 15 years it took him to become judiciary chairman. And he was well suited to it and did very well there.
Notably, several Democratic politicians refused their party's call to run for the senate in 2020. They didn't want to be a senator, and a big reason the lack of scope for bigness of self and independent action that, for instance, governors have. Stacey Abrams still wants to be governor of GA, but not senator from GA. And Bernie Sanders once said it was a total waste of not just his but everyone's time.
dalton99a
(81,707 posts)senseandsensibility
(17,224 posts)He was contrasting Biden's past behavior with his low-key presidency so far. He did lay it on pretty thick, though. I would like to know what examples of this outsize ego he has seen. He claimed to have seen it himself. If he has, he should state what he is talking about.
elleng
(131,391 posts)peggysue2
(10,850 posts)Joe Biden is a life-long politician. A strong ego is required to survive the scrutiny and criticism the profession endures. His gift of gab? He's an Irishman, for God's sake.
But overall, Hayes's was commenting on the manner in which Joe Biden has sublimated his natural instincts in his role as POTUS, a clear difference to the Trump Administration. Hayes also said, Biden had experience putting his own ego aside while serving as President Obama's wingman.
I didn't take it as an insult. Just his own personal observation and riffing off the comments of others.
Joe Biden has gauged the moment--the American public exhausted by Trump and his shenanigans--and acted accordingly.
Personally? I think Biden has assessed the public's mindset accurately. On the other hand, the media is having a hard time adjusting to a POTUS who is working hard as an actual public servant. Which does not require daily noise and chaos.
senseandsensibility
(17,224 posts)had experience putting his ego aside while serving as VP, and the guest was also the one who "defended" Biden by saying essentially that all politicians have egos. The guest was Adam Swerer (sp), who is always very good and kind of checked Chris in a non-confrontational way. Chris stated that he and other journalists had seen this big ego themselves, implying that it was info unknown to the viewers. If that's the case, he needs to state it plainly. Otherwise, I agree with your points.
peggysue2
(10,850 posts)I'd forgotten that. It was a good point, too.