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Sometimes chris hayes should stfu; (Original Post) elleng Mar 2021 OP
He should watch himself sometime JI7 Mar 2021 #1
Yeah.. look in the damn mirror, Hayes, & Cha Mar 2021 #10
Haven't seen a successful politician yet who doesn't have a gift of gab. brush Mar 2021 #32
What's with all those ugly beige shirts he's been wearing lately? (nt) Paladin Mar 2021 #52
Most politicians do mucifer Mar 2021 #2
Exactly. Dagstead Bumwood Mar 2021 #6
Except President Joe Biden does NOT have Cha Mar 2021 #7
He might. I don't really care. I don't know him personally. I just want him to do his mucifer Mar 2021 #14
He does not have a *pathological* ego. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #16
Such a perfect summation. I agree. And your last phrase nails it! Treefrog Mar 2021 #53
I turned him off when he said that. onecaliberal Mar 2021 #27
Kind of a job requirement -- no sin acknowledging it. nt eppur_se_muova Mar 2021 #37
That's why I rarely watch him. 2naSalit Mar 2021 #3
Hayes sounds bitter with that Projection Cha Mar 2021 #18
Hayes is Projecting.. who the Hell is Cha Mar 2021 #4
I mean. He's president, what do you expect? jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #5
Totally agree. triron Mar 2021 #8
Yeah, Hayes is the one who gave Tara Reid Cha Mar 2021 #13
Seems Chris is talking about himself. nt Popcorn 51 Mar 2021 #9
You can't survive in politics without a huge ego. Ocelot II Mar 2021 #11
Most politicians have to have some ego to run for office, especially the high offices. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #12
NewsFuckingFlash for Hayes.. Many of Cha Mar 2021 #15
On His First Ever Show He Had HIs Friend Republican Tim Carney On Me. Mar 2021 #19
Aloha, Me! Cha Mar 2021 #21
Good ol' T.P. Carney ( with emphasis on T. P.) . oasis Mar 2021 #50
I have bdamomma Mar 2021 #28
Pot/Kettle Hayes Me. Mar 2021 #17
Yes, Hayes sounds Bitter & I think Cha Mar 2021 #20
And What Does He Has To Be Bitter About? Me. Mar 2021 #24
Oh I have an idea.. Cha Mar 2021 #25
Ah, Gotcha Me. Mar 2021 #26
SOP for any politician, that's the kind that occupation Raine Mar 2021 #22
I won't watch him. Never got over that Tara Reid BS Dream Girl Mar 2021 #23
Same here LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #35
Same here LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #36
What was that? [nt] Nexus2 Mar 2021 #41
He went on to say how Biden was not governing thru that ego, though... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #29
Chris "let's hear from Tara Reade" Hayes? mzmolly Mar 2021 #30
++++ JI7 Mar 2021 #33
Same here. nt Duppers Mar 2021 #43
Just a flea bite. Confidence is not ego. LakeArenal Mar 2021 #31
I am not a fan of this individual LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #34
Not that big a deal. Bucky Mar 2021 #38
How can ANY talk show host say this lame54 Mar 2021 #39
He wasn't criticizing Biden - this is out of context. He moonscape Mar 2021 #40
One of his very frequent guests has an enormous ego, loves the sound of his own voice, betsuni Mar 2021 #42
:) Suspect "the guest" is diagnosable. Any comparison is not with Joe. :) Hortensis Mar 2021 #47
I can't stand Chris Hayes n/t kcr Mar 2021 #44
*UNFAIR* 22:45 in video Hayes, "Biden's presidency has been relatively low ego so far.." uponit7771 Mar 2021 #45
I don't either. His guest suggests Joe may have learned to be effacing Hortensis Mar 2021 #48
The same asshole who helped spread lies about Biden dalton99a Mar 2021 #46
I saw it a little bit differently senseandsensibility Mar 2021 #49
Thanks, SO sensible!!! elleng Mar 2021 #51
I think the gist of the commentary was the contrast to the ego-driven Trump peggysue2 Mar 2021 #54
It was Chris's guest who said that Biden senseandsensibility Mar 2021 #55
My mistake. You're right; it was his quest who offered the additional comment. peggysue2 Mar 2021 #56
No where near the Humps judesedit Mar 2021 #57

brush

(53,977 posts)
32. Haven't seen a successful politician yet who doesn't have a gift of gab.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 10:06 PM
Mar 2021

The job requires one to be able to speak extemporaneously and sound credible. If you can't do that, you won't be getting elected.

mucifer

(23,623 posts)
14. He might. I don't really care. I don't know him personally. I just want him to do his
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:46 PM
Mar 2021

job well and he is doing an EXCELLENT job as President.

Ocelot II

(115,985 posts)
16. He does not have a *pathological* ego.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:49 PM
Mar 2021

But in order for him to have survived and succeeded in politics for this long, he must have a very confident ego. There is nothing wrong with this. I can't think of a single successful politician who's a shrinking violet, but the really good ones are confident without being arrogant d-bags.

onecaliberal

(32,996 posts)
27. I turned him off when he said that.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 09:37 PM
Mar 2021

President Biden is so conscientious and kind. He is busy working on the trash heap he was left by the twice impeached, never received the popular vote criminal we overwhelmingly voted out of office in November. I’m tired of how people mischaracterize President Biden. I believe he will be one of the most consequential POTUS in my lifetime. Cutting childhood poverty in half and providing access to healthcare for the desperately poor at no cost is a a big effing deal. The money for schools to be safe enough to open, another big deal. Securing enough vaccine for every adult and building the infrastructure to deliver the vaccine to localities and people in 4 months. Especially when nothing existed previously on the scope and scale necessary.
I can’t stomach the media. Their reporting is pathetic and 4th grade level mean girl. I don’t have to worry that President Biden will burn us to the ground while I sleep and that is the bottom fucking line.

2naSalit

(86,943 posts)
3. That's why I rarely watch him.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:31 PM
Mar 2021

Too annoying to pay attention to what the guests are saying because he always interrupts and talks over them.

Cha

(298,047 posts)
4. Hayes is Projecting.. who the Hell is
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:32 PM
Mar 2021

is he to talk about anyone's EGO EXCEPT the Traitor & Magats?!

jorgevlorgan

(8,351 posts)
5. I mean. He's president, what do you expect?
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:33 PM
Mar 2021


You would need a healthy ego to survive five minutes in the job -or in a campaign. Regardless, it isn't comparable to his predecessor. .

Cha

(298,047 posts)
13. Yeah, Hayes is the one who gave Tara Reid
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:43 PM
Mar 2021

a Platform on his show.. No questions asked.. & got all indignant when there was a pushback for him to be FIRED.

Ocelot II

(115,985 posts)
11. You can't survive in politics without a huge ego.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:39 PM
Mar 2021

That's not an evil attribute as long as it doesn't turn you into a raging narcissist like Trump. The large egos of successful, non-evil politicians have made it possible for them to persevere confidently instead of being intimidated into giving up. If you have a fragile ego you'll never get anywhere. I, for example, would be a total failure as a politician because I'd be crushed and miserable over the inevitable unfair criticism, unflattering cartoons and mean tweets, things that don't bother normal, non-pathologically-large-egoed politicians enough to slow them down.

Irish_Dem

(47,928 posts)
12. Most politicians have to have some ego to run for office, especially the high offices.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:41 PM
Mar 2021

Also Joe a handsome charmer, and a talker.

That does not mean he has pathological ego, in fact he is much more humble than the GOP leaders.

Cha

(298,047 posts)
15. NewsFuckingFlash for Hayes.. Many of
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:47 PM
Mar 2021

us Like to hear the Sound of President Biden's Voice.. Telling us about all the Changes he & his Admin are Doing FOR The Country & the American People.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
19. On His First Ever Show He Had HIs Friend Republican Tim Carney On
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:59 PM
Mar 2021

Carney called PBO your president and Hayes didn't correct him and was shocked that he was criticized.

Aloha Cha..

bdamomma

(63,962 posts)
28. I have
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 09:38 PM
Mar 2021

always liked listening to President Biden, at least he's knowledgeable and very calm in his demeanor.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
17. Pot/Kettle Hayes
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 08:56 PM
Mar 2021

BTW did you ever apologize for having that 'journalist' on to spew false claims of sexual harassment against PJB, not once but twice? You seem to have a problem with our president.

Cha

(298,047 posts)
20. Yes, Hayes sounds Bitter & I think
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 09:08 PM
Mar 2021

he does have a problem with President. Biden. he seems jealous.

No he never apologized for giving tara reid a platform to spew her lies.

Instead he got all Egocentric Indignant.. & blamed those who pushed back on his propaganda show.

It's known that the Black Community Respect Joe Biden for taking a back seat to President Obama during those 8 years of Serving as his VP..

Didn't see and "Enormous Ego.."

This pisses me off!

Me.

(35,454 posts)
24. And What Does He Has To Be Bitter About?
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 09:24 PM
Mar 2021

cushy job, excellent salary, protected family where his kids aren't hungry or homeless.

Wounded Bear

(58,778 posts)
29. He went on to say how Biden was not governing thru that ego, though...
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 09:40 PM
Mar 2021

All politicians have an ego, it's the only way to survive. But Biden doesn't make everything about him.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,894 posts)
34. I am not a fan of this individual
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:18 AM
Mar 2021

I still think that this individual should have been fired for pushing the Tara Reade lies

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
38. Not that big a deal.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:06 AM
Mar 2021

I'm currently reading Bob Woodward's book on how Obama managed the politics and logistics of inheriting two wars 2009 to 2010. Biden comes off as a smart, skeptical, domineering guy with very strong opinions and zero hesitation about asserting them.

That more or less gels with the impression I've formed of him after watching him for 35 years and supporting him for president twice. He's not afraid of bold ideas and taking a strong stance at advocating for them. These character traits are assets, but also not without a downside; and they come bundled with a strong ego. that's not bad. People made the same criticism of Obama. That makes them both strong leaders.

Like Obama, I think Biden is a big enough man that he can take criticism constructively.

moonscape

(4,676 posts)
40. He wasn't criticizing Biden - this is out of context. He
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:52 AM
Mar 2021

prefaced his point by saying Biden has a big ego but contrasted that with how he has not brought that in to his presidency, which was his main point. The ego thing was not a stand alone comment.

betsuni

(25,803 posts)
42. One of his very frequent guests has an enormous ego, loves the sound of his own voice,
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:08 AM
Mar 2021

and has no idea about the United States.

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)
45. *UNFAIR* 22:45 in video Hayes, "Biden's presidency has been relatively low ego so far.."
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:44 AM
Mar 2021

Last edited Tue Mar 16, 2021, 11:36 AM - Edit history (1)

Hayes said Biden was ego in the past but right now his whole presidency is low-ego

there are things to bash Hayes on I don't think this is it

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. I don't either. His guest suggests Joe may have learned to be effacing
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 11:56 AM
Mar 2021

as Obama's VP, but that manages to ignore his over 40 years in the senate.

As a senator, he was one of 100 in an institution designed (very unlike the far less democratic house) to be slow-moving and deliberative and to encourage independence from each other among the senators, and where people advance slooowly to leadership through longevity over merit. That's where Biden lived it, sublimating any tendencies to overweening self importance to the whole, for decades, including the 15 years it took him to become judiciary chairman. And he was well suited to it and did very well there.

Notably, several Democratic politicians refused their party's call to run for the senate in 2020. They didn't want to be a senator, and a big reason the lack of scope for bigness of self and independent action that, for instance, governors have. Stacey Abrams still wants to be governor of GA, but not senator from GA. And Bernie Sanders once said it was a total waste of not just his but everyone's time.





senseandsensibility

(17,224 posts)
49. I saw it a little bit differently
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:42 PM
Mar 2021

He was contrasting Biden's past behavior with his low-key presidency so far. He did lay it on pretty thick, though. I would like to know what examples of this outsize ego he has seen. He claimed to have seen it himself. If he has, he should state what he is talking about.

peggysue2

(10,850 posts)
54. I think the gist of the commentary was the contrast to the ego-driven Trump
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:51 PM
Mar 2021

Joe Biden is a life-long politician. A strong ego is required to survive the scrutiny and criticism the profession endures. His gift of gab? He's an Irishman, for God's sake.

But overall, Hayes's was commenting on the manner in which Joe Biden has sublimated his natural instincts in his role as POTUS, a clear difference to the Trump Administration. Hayes also said, Biden had experience putting his own ego aside while serving as President Obama's wingman.

I didn't take it as an insult. Just his own personal observation and riffing off the comments of others.

Joe Biden has gauged the moment--the American public exhausted by Trump and his shenanigans--and acted accordingly.

Personally? I think Biden has assessed the public's mindset accurately. On the other hand, the media is having a hard time adjusting to a POTUS who is working hard as an actual public servant. Which does not require daily noise and chaos.

senseandsensibility

(17,224 posts)
55. It was Chris's guest who said that Biden
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:15 PM
Mar 2021

had experience putting his ego aside while serving as VP, and the guest was also the one who "defended" Biden by saying essentially that all politicians have egos. The guest was Adam Swerer (sp), who is always very good and kind of checked Chris in a non-confrontational way. Chris stated that he and other journalists had seen this big ego themselves, implying that it was info unknown to the viewers. If that's the case, he needs to state it plainly. Otherwise, I agree with your points.

peggysue2

(10,850 posts)
56. My mistake. You're right; it was his quest who offered the additional comment.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 08:05 PM
Mar 2021

I'd forgotten that. It was a good point, too.

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