Other than Martha Raddatz forgetting that we have a separation of church and state in this country

[MrScorpio]

I think that she did a fine job of moderating.

But really, she seriously dropped the ball with how she framed that abortion question.

I think that Joe set her straight though by pointing out that his, or anyone else's, religious beliefs have no business setting government policy or the law.

Ryan, I noticed, jumped at the chance to portray himself as a religious zealot, basically reminding all women in this country about why it's a horrible idea to vote for right wing, fetus worshippers.

[Raster]

1. A woman's right to chose IS THE LINE IN THE SAND. And thank you, Lyin' Ryan, for making...

...that line abundantly clear and concise: A vote for Rmoney/Lyin' is a vote AGAINST CHOICE.

[msongs]

2. plus she said SS is going broke and biden did not correct her premise nt

[MrScorpio]

3. Oh, yeah… That was seriously fucked up

Everyone screwed the pooch on that one

[Hissyspit]

4. I was just going to mention that one.

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. That ticked me off as well.

[Buzz Clik]

11. Social Security will not be broke by the weekend, but it currently unsustainable.

This has been known for ... 15 years? More?

[Berlum]

18. Obama needs to lay the SS reality out quickly as part of his opening statement next Tuesday

...so that there will be an opening for him to return to the subject during the debate and set the SS status report facts on the table.

Notify your neighborhood reality checkers to be on the alert.

[NoMoreWarNow]

6. she was far better than Lehrer but still too much "lamestream" media mindset

[mountain grammy]

19. That's for sure...

she hit all the talking points while ignoring our Constitution's protection against a state sanctioned religion and raising the medicare, social security "bankrupt" scare for the old folks, which would be an easy fix with a tax increase, expanding the medicare base and raising the cap on the payroll tax. Most of us are adults, let's talk about it!!

[customerserviceguy]

7. She spent a lot of time on foreign policy

While I know that's her strong suit, most Americans (especially anyone who considers themselves undecided or swayable at this point) don't care that much about it, as long as we don't have more than one or two dozen body bags coming home every week from a volunteer military.

There is a worry about what Mideast violence will do to oil prices, but beyond that, the folks who make up their minds the weekend before the election just don't care about foreign affairs that much. I'd rather she have found something else to take up that time, like racial issues or the war on women.

[lunatica]

14. Right now people care a great deal about being at war and going to more wars

The American public are not only tired of war right now, but they're tired of having to pay for wars right now.

[WestSeattle2]

8. Wow, I had a totally different impression. I thought that was a softball question loaded up

and sent right over the plate for Biden. It was a golden opportunity for JB to say exactly what he did, and draw that line in the sand. It was a line that the Little Boy couldn't help himself from crossing. The Little Boy and his Master WILL feel completely comfortable dictating their religious beliefs onto everyone else - and the Little Boy said it himself.

THAT will be a Democratic ad running in swing states before Sunday.

[tallahasseedem]

24. I thought the same thing...

it was the perfect time to showcase Ryan's extremes views. I was thrilled she asked the question!

[WinkyDink]

9. Not "fetus worshippers"; "women-controllers."

[polmaven]

12. That was my though as well....

I don't think the zygote has anything to do with it. It is all about teaching us silly wimmins that we are not able to make any decisions about our bodies, and need men to do that for us, just like every other decision we might need to make.

[lunatica]

16. Abortion has always been a wedge issue during elections

Even if they managed to make abortions illegal, come election time they would use illegal abortions as a wedge issue.

[WinkyDink]

20. The better for their private prisons.

[magical thyme]

10. I don't think Raddatz forgot separation of church and state for one second

I think she framed the question deliberately that way. I think she called lured the Pipsqueak right out over the plate and gave Smokin' Joe the opportunity to hit one out of the ballpark. Which he seemed very happy to do.

The takeaway was so very clear.

Smokin' Joe: My personal beliefs are my personal beliefs and I'd never even think to impose them on you.

Pipsqueak: I'll protect Beans from BAD WYMMIN (the "easy rapes," not the "legitimate rapes"*)



*edited to add the kind the got drunk at a party, slept with a Pipsqueak, woke up the next morning and screamed "AAAAIAIAIAIA!!!!!!" and ran like hell to the doctor to take a pill to prevent any beans from forming!

[snappyturtle]

13. I agree with you. She is too smart to make that error; she used her question

to highlight a huge difference in perspective between the candidates.....just in case those of us watching didn't know. We owe her a big thank you. imho

[lunatica]

17. I agree

It was a deliberate question asked by a women. That makes all the difference.

[closeupready]

15. She also messed up on SS, framing it with "we all know SS is going broke"

Um, no, it's not, Martha.

[leftstreet]

25. And neither candidate corrected her?

[JackRiddler]

26. No. Ryan repeated & Biden avoided challenging the premise.

[closeupready]

27. Nope. They both ran with that premise.

Ryan started with the first response, eagerly doubling down on her premise with "Yes, it is indisputable that social security is going broke" or something like that.

[VWolf]

21. I think Ryan misunderstood the question

He started talking about lima beans or something.

[magical thyme]

22. he was just showing that even the "intellect" of the teaparty can't spell

He's confused kidney beans with human beings.

[glinda]

23. She gave more time to Ryan to talk.