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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 06:17 AM Oct 2012

Does Mitt Romney Ever Give Charity to Non-Mormons or Entities without a Political Agenda?

I have noticed, from his tax returns and anecdotes, that Mitt Romney's charitable contributions or humanitarian outreach always centers around his church. Mormons take care of each other, and that's laudable. However, over 99% of us are not Mormons (I know, another 1% line, but it's unintentional).

Last night in the VP debate, Paul Ryan described another heart warming story of Mitt's help, but once again, the people were "members of his Church". Does he reach out to the inner-city? Does he help neighbors of other faiths, or God forbid, no faith at all? Where does my family fit into this?

He gives to charities with a political agenda, like right to life groups, and, as I said, he gives a portion of his incredible wealth to his Mormon Church, but not much outside it, or at least I have never heard an anecdote that didn't center around his church.

Maybe that's why he doesn't bring it up himself, because it would eventually become obvious the Mitt only has charity in his heart for Mormons, and the rest of us can fend for ourselves, unless we convert.

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Does Mitt Romney Ever Give Charity to Non-Mormons or Entities without a Political Agenda? (Original Post) louis c Oct 2012 OP
Has he ever given to non-church entities, period? aquart Oct 2012 #1
I would so, so like an answer to this jsmirman Oct 2012 #2
Several non LDS charities have received donations. See post 6 and 7 for links. nt kelly1mm Oct 2012 #14
No Mormon does, generally speaking. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #3
You may be right but AnnaLee Oct 2012 #9
You may not want religion mixed in it, but Willard does. closeupready Oct 2012 #12
And if you are gay, you are double dead to them. closeupready Oct 2012 #11
Yup. Mormons are about Mormons. aletier_v Oct 2012 #15
remember he doesn't care about the 47% MrYikes Oct 2012 #4
I'm glad you brought this up. PearliePoo2 Oct 2012 #5
Posst 6 and 7 have links to the charitable, non LDS contributions he made. His donations kelly1mm Oct 2012 #13
It's mostly the Church, to be sure. dems_rightnow Oct 2012 #6
Yes, he has given to non-Mormon non-political causes. Not that much (compared) kelly1mm Oct 2012 #7
IF HE GIVES 80% TO MORMON CHARITIES, HE GIVES 6% OF HIS INCOME TO REAL CHARITIES jsmirman Oct 2012 #16
Why are you yelling at me? Did you even read the question asked by the OP? Here is it again: kelly1mm Oct 2012 #18
I'm not yelling at *you* - I am broadcasting this to all - 30% claim is a shitty deception (it's 6%) jsmirman Oct 2012 #19
OK. Sorry I thought it was directed at me. I do agree with your math in that only 6% kelly1mm Oct 2012 #20
Yep. I had every reason to think you would appreciate the simple math jsmirman Oct 2012 #21
There are good reasons he does not talk about his charities. gordianot Oct 2012 #8
Mormon charity: They wait till you croak and they baptize you. jsr Oct 2012 #10
What's the problem with that? Just convert for TheBluestEye Oct 2012 #17

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
2. I would so, so like an answer to this
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 06:24 AM
Oct 2012

mormon church and subsidiaries of the mormon church - anything else or not?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
3. No Mormon does, generally speaking.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:01 AM
Oct 2012

I lived in a Mormon town for a few years. They are a closed society. If you are not Mormon, they want nothing to do with you. Their charity only goes to other Mormons. I grew to hate this about them. Never think the Mormons are there to help you, because they aren't -- unless you too are a Mormon.

AnnaLee

(1,035 posts)
9. You may be right but
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:57 AM
Oct 2012

when I lived in West Valley (near SLC), I always felt that if my house was on fire someone would call the fire department but if I was outside and neighbors were outside also, I was invisible to them.

No my problem was at my job. I was on the faculty of U. Utah briefly. My dept. head was Mormon. He always brought a man in the room when he had a "meeting" with me. He never addressed me directly but addressed the man about me. He actually talked directly with me twice. The first time he called to ask why I hadn't done what I promised to do. I reminded him that he had obtained that promise from the man in the room who I had not appointed to represent me. He actually apologized before the call was over. The second time was when I resigned. He called and asked if I was leaving because of the way he had treated me. I told him no because he just wasn't that important. I was leaving to find a happier job and place to live.

Today I realize that my experiences (in the 80s) cloud my perspective and I am more frightened of Romney than any that came before him. I don't want to get religion mixed up in it but I do. I hope I can overcome it. (I seem to trust Harry though.)

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
12. You may not want religion mixed in it, but Willard does.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:09 AM
Oct 2012

He went on about how "we" (royally) all believe we are children of the same god.

So many issues with that. Mormons believe in MANY gods, even believe that they can become gods themselves.

If that's Christianity, then Hinduism is also Christianity if they say it is.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
15. Yup. Mormons are about Mormons.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:24 AM
Oct 2012

The faster y'all figure that out, the faster you'll really understand Romney.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
5. I'm glad you brought this up.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:40 AM
Oct 2012

We've been hearing all these "ooohs and aaahs" about how generous Mittens is to charities. How selfless he is.
Give me a freakin' break. His donations were entirely to either the LDS or his family. He gave stocks in companies (all owned by Mormons btw) to his kid's trust and the rest went to the LDS $$ corporation.
If someone could show me him helping out an organization that wasn't Mormon affiliated in some way, I'd like to see it.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
13. Posst 6 and 7 have links to the charitable, non LDS contributions he made. His donations
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:17 AM
Oct 2012

were mainly, but not entirely, to LDS causes.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
7. Yes, he has given to non-Mormon non-political causes. Not that much (compared)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:07 AM
Oct 2012

but he has given to:

"The foundation has been the Romneys' main vehicle for giving, whether to keep the lights on with a $10,000 check to a homeless shelter for veterans that couldn't pay its electric bill or to send relief to victims of Hurricane Katrina ($10,000) and the South Asia earthquake and tsunami ($25,000).

The GOP presidential hopeful has donated $127,000 in proceeds from his 2010 campaign book, “No Apology: The Case for American Greatness." Seven charities serving children, cancer and MS patients and severely wounded veterans got donations ranging from $10,000 to nearly $33,000.

The businessman-turned-politician has also foregone payment for work he did as governor and as head of the Olympics.

As head of the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Romney took no salary for three years while donating $1 million to the games."

and later:

"Health care. The Romneys have given more than $100,000 to research and service organizations for multiple sclerosis, cystic fibrosis, cancer, epilepsy, Lou Gehrig's Disease and AIDS.

For the man who signed the nation's first comprehensive health care reform law, the choices have sometimes been personal. Ann's multiple sclerosis and her diagnosis in 2008 with early stage breast cancer have informed their giving. So has the plight of associates likes conservative columnist Dean Barnett. An early supporter who was Romney's driver during his 1994 Senate campaign, Barnett died of cystic fibrosis in 2008 at age 41.

Youth. The Boy Scouts of America, the Boston Scholars program for disadvantaged students and the Massachusetts Children's Trust Fund to prevent child abuse -- where Ann Romney served on the board -- all have benefited from the couple's largess. They gave $10,000 to the United Way Faith and Action Fund started by Ann Romney to help at-risk urban youth. Romney has given more than $60,000 to City Year, the Boston-based community service organization on whose board he once served."


Link:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/mitt-romney-gives-million_n_924414.html

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
16. IF HE GIVES 80% TO MORMON CHARITIES, HE GIVES 6% OF HIS INCOME TO REAL CHARITIES
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:49 AM
Oct 2012

Do the math!!!!!

If he truly gives 30% of his money to charity - and that's a figure from Liar Boy - but even taking that as true...

Go to the huff po link, and 80% of his charity being to the hateful Mormon Church and subsidiaries (and that seems conservative) would mean that he really only gives 6% of his income(?)(I assume) to non-Mormon charities.

Color me unimpressed.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
18. Why are you yelling at me? Did you even read the question asked by the OP? Here is it again:
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:09 PM
Oct 2012

Question: "Does Mitt Romney Ever Give Charity to Non-Mormons or Entities without a Political Agenda?"

Answer: Yes.

Even your post says he gives some money to non-LDS charities. That was the question asked and answered. I did not say he gave a majority of his money to non-LDS charities, as that was not the question asked. The answer does not require math. It is binary; either he has ever given to non-LDS, non political charities or not.

If the question was does he give over 10% of his income to non-LDS, non-political charities then you would have a point. But it wasn't, so you don't.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
19. I'm not yelling at *you* - I am broadcasting this to all - 30% claim is a shitty deception (it's 6%)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:34 PM
Oct 2012

he's not that charitable, he's just a powerful Mormon.

You were not relevant to my decision that this statement required yelling.

I hope you can accept that.

kelly1mm

(4,732 posts)
20. OK. Sorry I thought it was directed at me. I do agree with your math in that only 6%
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:01 PM
Oct 2012

seems to have gone to non-LDS, non-political charities.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
21. Yep. I had every reason to think you would appreciate the simple math
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:34 PM
Oct 2012

as might others.

It drives me nuts, btw, that people like the reporters on that huff po piece are so math-phobic that they don't take the obvious next step of performing the calculation.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
8. There are good reasons he does not talk about his charities.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:19 AM
Oct 2012

Mitt himself is the direct beneficiary of charity. Mitt is a front man plain and simple in a very secretive community. His main function in life is to file taxes as a cover for his investors and manage to stay out of jail. Running for public office winning and being there is also a service he must render irregardless of politics. This why and how he adapts and changes so easily, Mitt is a professional liar and bag man.

 

TheBluestEye

(97 posts)
17. What's the problem with that? Just convert for
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:13 AM
Oct 2012

health care, a decent education, and employment opportunities. Bishop Romney cares about 100% of Mormons.

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