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Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:39 AM

Why doesn't anyone investigate who is telling Central American families that now is the best time to

send their unaccompanied children to the US?

It happened under Obama (who actually had a strict immigration policy) and it is happening now under Biden. Both times the GOP was quick to make political hay.

Why isn't the cause being investigated? It wasn't investigated under Obama either.

My personal theory is that right wing evangelical churches (the fastest growing Churches for Latin Americans) is responsible propped up by money from the usual RW sources. They are intentionally creating a crisis on the border to damage the Democrat's policy initiatives.

Investigate!


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Reply Why doesn't anyone investigate who is telling Central American families that now is the best time to (Original post)
FSogol Mar 2021 OP
uponit7771 Mar 2021 #1
Pantagruel Mar 2021 #2
FSogol Mar 2021 #5
Pantagruel Mar 2021 #18
brooklynite Mar 2021 #3
FSogol Mar 2021 #4
WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #6
Jose Garcia Mar 2021 #7
JI7 Mar 2021 #8
malaise Mar 2021 #9
FSogol Mar 2021 #13
jmbar2 Mar 2021 #17
malaise Mar 2021 #21
uponit7771 Mar 2021 #19
jmbar2 Mar 2021 #10
rampartc Mar 2021 #11
FSogol Mar 2021 #12
malaise Mar 2021 #15
Mike 03 Mar 2021 #14
Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #16
Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #20

Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:44 AM

1. YEP !! I thought the same that MAGA Cultist were creating the mess. The MSM is repeating FAUX News

.... BS for ratings and not focusing on how the kGQP is taking apart democracy by making it harder for people to vote

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:51 AM

2. Bigger picture

A recovering U. S. economy and a return to humane treatment of all immigrants, legal and otherwise will give rise to increased migration. Just logical reality.

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Response to Pantagruel (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:57 AM

5. Then wouldn't whole families try to immigrate? Why unaccompanied minors only?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 11:19 AM

18. Whole families do

but sometimes , for a variety of reasons like caring for too young or too old relatives, families make separation decisions.

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:52 AM

3. Is your personal theory based on any actual evidence?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:56 AM

4. Other than evangelical churches in my area are extra- Q-nutty and recruit heavily from Latino

populations?

My theory is wild speculation, but it seems unlikely that unaccompanied minors rush our shores whenever it is politically expedient for the GOP. Does anyone really believe that happened without cause? Really?

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:58 AM

6. Lol

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:00 AM

7. Or perhaps they believe that the new administration will be more lenient

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:00 AM

8. Nobody has to tell them. The fact is they have a better chance with Democrats in office of being

able to stay here than republicans. Even if some of them will not be allowed to stay.

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:04 AM

9. Here - Dear Mr Secretary of State - see #2 keithbvadu2's links

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:23 AM

13. Thank you. n/t

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:46 AM

17. I wasn't aware of the church links before, but this makes sense.

Last year, at the start of covid, we had a whole group of Guatemalan refugees get sick in my little Oregon coastal town. They were indigenous tribespeople who spoke no English or Spanish -- just an indigenous language that no one could translate.

They had been brought here for seasonal work in a fish processing factory. It was very organized. Someone provided some sort of housing, buses, etc. But no one knew who was behind it. Once they got sick, they couldn't work and many ended up in hotel rooms.

They were very small, dark people with no jobs, money, health insurance, or language, wandering around during a pandemic a very white rural area. We'd see them occasionally at Walmart in large groups stocking up on food. They looked scared and forlorn.

Someone is making bank on these poor folks.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 11:25 AM

21. Years ago, workers on our campus told me that they were leaving

for the US as their church(with US evangelical links) got visas for them.
Then we discovered that some didn't actually have visas are were part of the smuggling networks. Didn't take much digging to find out that it's very much part of the process in the hemisphere. Never forget that many of these so called pastors are snake oil salesmen hustling money by any means necessary.
They have long been the RWs response to Liberation Theology.

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 11:21 AM

19. WOW !!!

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:10 AM

10. Part of it is an annual migration for agricultural jobs

The agriculture industry hires over 2 million workers each year for planting, growing and harvesting our food. They have a regular work circuit that takes them all over the US at different times of the year.



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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:13 AM

11. +1

agribusiness recruiters have offices in central america.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:23 AM

12. Unaccompanied minors?

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:32 AM

15. Low level jobs in hotels as well n/t

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:31 AM

14. Russia also loves--and will promote--any migrant crisis in a western democracy:

Cui bono? is a key question thatís been asked by more than few Europe-watchers in recent months as migrants have helped shift EU politics decisively to the right. Itís difficult to avoid noticing that many of the far-right parties reaping the whirlwind now across the EU have positive views of Vladimir Putinís Russia. The EUís rising right admires the Kremlin for its unapologetic emphasis on traditional values, state sovereignty and zero tolerance for jihadism. Anti-immigrant rallies in Germany have featured protestors brandishing Russian flags prominently, as well as German ones.

This extends beyond mere sympathy. Franceís FN has accepted millions of dollars in funding from the Kremlin, while Germanyís AfD seems to have benefitted from Russian largesse as well. Itís therefore not surprising that the leaders of those parties have warm, praising things to say about Mr. Putin and his regime, viewing Russia as a bulwark of conservatism and an ally against migrant invasion.



https://observer.com/2016/04/how-the-kremlin-manipulates-europes-refugee-crisis/

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:41 AM

16. The fact is that things haven't changed that much

There were still unaccompanied minors at the border the last 4 years, the Rightwing media just didn't cover it or call it a crisis.

Has the number increased some? Yeah, up maybe 25%, probably due to the fact parents know Joe is a decent man and their children are less likely to be tortured under Biden than under Trump who advocated for torturing children.

Joe could start torturing children like Trump did and these numbers would fall, but that's not the moral thing to do.

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Response to FSogol (Original post)

Tue Mar 16, 2021, 11:24 AM

20. Many parents send their children north

for better opportunities. With climate change and serious gang violence, there's going to be more and more. It's not a conspiracy. just a sad reality.

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