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struggle4progress

(118,280 posts)
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:02 PM Mar 2021

Republican policy argument: Imagine a terrorist immigrant who votes illegally

Philip Bump
March 16, 2021 at 10:17 a.m. EDT

A database of fraud cases compiled by a conservative organization includes only two examples of voter fraud from the 2020 general election. One was of a Michigan man who filled out his daughter’s ballot for her at her request and then forged her signature before submitting it to the county. (The daughter’s vote was eventually counted.) The other is of a woman in Colorado who submitted two ballots by accident. But the database is incorrect there — that case was in the 2020 primary.

The office of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) spent a lot of time, about 22,000 person-hours, scouring the state for examples of fraud last year. It found 16 cases in which people used false addresses when registering to vote. That’s about one problematic registration for every million voters in the state as of January 2020 and a rate of one problematic registration for every 57 days of time spent looking. None of those cases resulted in criminal charges ...

... Hundreds of pieces of legislation have been proposed or introduced in recent months to change the way elections are run in the United States. Most are predicated to at least some degree on vague claims of fraud elevated by Trump and his allies over the past year. Here .. the alleged fraud mostly serves as a rhetorical tool to bolster the desired outcome ...

... the policy goal exists almost entirely outside of the rationale used to justify the goal. The desired outcome with new laws on voting is often to constrain access to voting in ways that disadvantage Democratic voters ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/16/perfect-republican-policy-argument-imagine-terrorist-immigrant-who-votes-illegally/

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Republican policy argument: Imagine a terrorist immigrant who votes illegally (Original Post) struggle4progress Mar 2021 OP
Imagine a Republican who commits terrorism to overthrow legal votes. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #1
Fraud must mean something different to the GOP Claire Oh Nette Mar 2021 #2
Every voter fraud case I've heard of has been a Republican. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #3
Methinks the GOP is not being truthful Claire Oh Nette Mar 2021 #5
Exactly! lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #6
From reading FB after the election, CrispyQ Mar 2021 #4
From reading FB post-election Claire Oh Nette Mar 2021 #7

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. Imagine a Republican who commits terrorism to overthrow legal votes.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:08 PM
Mar 2021

Well, that's the entire Republican Party now. It doesn't take much imagination, does it?

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
2. Fraud must mean something different to the GOP
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:10 PM
Mar 2021

Two cases.

2/151,300,000 or about .0000076%

16 cases of false addresses. Not claims to be other people, but false addresses.

1/1,000,000 or .000001%

THe actual voter fraud cases I can recall are all REpublicans!

There is no Voter Fraud problem in the United States.
There is a huge Election Fraud problem in the United States. THey just didn't get away with it.





lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. Every voter fraud case I've heard of has been a Republican.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:19 PM
Mar 2021

And I'll bet that of those 16 wrong addresses, at least half are merely accidental or outdated. The other half are Qpublican fraudsters.

CrispyQ

(36,460 posts)
4. From reading FB after the election,
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:22 PM
Mar 2021

many of the people perpetuating these CTs about voter fraud don't have very good knowledge of the electoral process. It's easier to believe outrageous things when you don't take time to understand the process.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
7. From reading FB post-election
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:29 PM
Mar 2021

Many non-college educated white guys (my own anecdotal experience) who'd never, ever expressed political opinions until 45 was elected, who had not voted since they cast a ballot for Senior Class President and Homecoming King were suddenly experts.

I asked on my FB about people's voting experience--those who voted were able to describe how they went about receiving a absentee ballot, ballot application, and what that application process was like.

Those most vociferously MAGA, for lack of a better classification, could only say things like "I don't trust the process," or "the process is flawed." Yet they gave no evidence they went through the process. They were, as usual, as they've done since high school, talking out of their asses.

I'm curious how many of those already arrested for Insurrection on 1/6 actually did vote in 2020, and how many cast ballots in previous elections.

I'm guessing they're bandwagon fans whatever they support. This time, they backed a loser.

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