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catbyte

(39,154 posts)
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 01:57 PM Mar 2021

Wyoming lawmaker suggests there were two sides to history of slavery

Nick Reynolds
Mar 17, 2021 Updated 1 hr ago



CHEYENNE – A freshman Wyoming legislator suggested Wednesday that there are two sides to the history of American slavery, and that Black Americans are “stuck” in a mentality he called “worse than slavery itself.”

“Slavery was something that shouldn’t have happened in America, but it did. But we’ve created slavery into a place that has created a position of being stuck, in my opinion, for a people group,” Rep. Jeremy Haroldson, R-Wheatland, told lawmakers Wednesday. “And that’s a sad place to be. And that was probably, in my opinion, worse than the slavery itself, because we have created a place where people cannot get free from because of their past.

“So slavery needs to be discussed,” he added. “It needs to be brought forward and the different views, that slavery was not maybe what it has been painted in this nation completely.”


Haroldson made the comments as he presented members of the House Education Committee with HB-177 – Education-Understanding federal and state government, a bill that would rewrite parts of Wyoming’s public schools curriculum.

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These white, entitled, willfully ignorant dumbasses just need to sit down and shut up.
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Wyoming lawmaker suggests there were two sides to history of slavery (Original Post) catbyte Mar 2021 OP
Good grief soothsayer Mar 2021 #1
What a jackass Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 #2
Looks like he's awfully proud of being stupid. Danced all around slavery without mentioning race. marble falls Mar 2021 #3
Appalling whitesplainin'. How about you undergo a lifetime of slavery, and then spooky3 Mar 2021 #4
word salad with white splaining dressing Claire Oh Nette Mar 2021 #25
The right side and the wrong side. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #5
"Let's not forget all the happy times down on the Old Plantation!" struggle4progress Mar 2021 #6
Apparently English was an optional class when he was a freshman in high school. Arthur_Frain Mar 2021 #7
Rewriting history again! PCIntern Mar 2021 #8
Fucking idiot or a complete asshole jcgoldie Mar 2021 #9
the idiot asshole dweller Mar 2021 #11
I agree. But then history tells us about the early "civilizations" of the Indus valley in India, abqtommy Mar 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Mar 2021 #27
Thanks for posting that. Of course slavery is everywhere. There was the Muslim-controlled abqtommy Mar 2021 #32
Two sides? LakeArenal Mar 2021 #12
He's saying nothing remarkable or new, yet he gets national attention. Baked Potato Mar 2021 #13
This is a prime example of white manplaining 101. brush Mar 2021 #14
Christofascist newspeak: being "stuck" equals not being white or conservative enough to suit them. Thomas Hurt Mar 2021 #15
Ohhhh...he got Pentecostal Jeebus on his side. CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #16
This guy is an idiot LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #17
So He Has Form, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #23
This guy does not restrict his ignorance to only one topic LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #29
It's hard work to own slaves dalton99a Mar 2021 #18
True. I read that Jefferson found keeping them working optimally Hortensis Mar 2021 #43
Blinded by the white. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #19
Hey, he went to Bismark State Collage dalton99a Mar 2021 #20
Wow! A collage! UpInArms Mar 2021 #22
Such a shame UpInArms Mar 2021 #21
Some probably were. Most people were in bondage in the middle ages Hortensis Mar 2021 #44
The Oppressed and the Oppressor. Claire Oh Nette Mar 2021 #24
He thinks racism ended in the US with the 13th Amendment in 1865, refusing to acknowledge sop Mar 2021 #26
👆🏽This 👆🏽 IrishAfricanAmerican Mar 2021 #33
See? Watch enough Fox, you can be an expert on *anything* Bucky Mar 2021 #28
I hope all of you realize by criticizing him, you become an anti white racist Bucky Mar 2021 #30
No, we are antifa. We defend those on the right side of history, not white revisionist fascists, ancianita Mar 2021 #31
as a matter of fact, there are two sides to the story azureblue Mar 2021 #34
Was he in a serious accident? Grokenstein Mar 2021 #35
Another douch. So many, so stupid, so harmful to any progress. nt Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #36
Dangerously stupid. zentrum Mar 2021 #37
OF COURSE there were "2 sides." BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #38
Racist. Martin68 Mar 2021 #39
Hey chuckles, facts and horsedump are not "two sides" JHB Mar 2021 #40
The oranges of the modern white supremacist people group: Marcuse Mar 2021 #41
Nick Reynolds, just another face of white supremacy. patphil Mar 2021 #42
Two sides, sure. The right one and the wrong one. soldierant Mar 2021 #45
When you're a state rep in WYOMING, keep your fool mouth shut. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #46

marble falls

(71,936 posts)
3. Looks like he's awfully proud of being stupid. Danced all around slavery without mentioning race.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:01 PM
Mar 2021

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
4. Appalling whitesplainin'. How about you undergo a lifetime of slavery, and then
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:02 PM
Mar 2021

we’ll listen to “your side of the story”, bub.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
25. word salad with white splaining dressing
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:07 PM
Mar 2021

It's jibberish.
The only people who are stuck are the racists.
Black people are trying to be free, and racists in a racist society won't let them.

That's whitey's problem.

Arthur_Frain

(2,358 posts)
7. Apparently English was an optional class when he was a freshman in high school.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:03 PM
Mar 2021

Cuz his words make sense no ways. Choice no good to convey his forwardness. Hyperbole blah, blah, blah, platitude, hyperbole.

PCIntern

(28,369 posts)
8. Rewriting history again!
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:04 PM
Mar 2021

Hey Rep Haroldson: before you go to sleep tonight I want you to think about all those men who slept with your mother before the man she claims is your father did. Now I don’t want you to be a prisoner of that history for even a minute. But it needs to be discussed because there are two sides to every story...

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
10. I agree. But then history tells us about the early "civilizations" of the Indus valley in India,
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:08 PM
Mar 2021

Sumeria, Egypt, Greece Rome, Europe and The Americas and we're seldom told that all these "civilizations" were founded on and maintained through slavery. We need more
accurate history, better schools and better people. For sure.

Response to abqtommy (Reply #10)

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
32. Thanks for posting that. Of course slavery is everywhere. There was the Muslim-controlled
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 04:10 PM
Mar 2021

slavery on the East Coast of Africa and I've also read about the White Slavery that the
Muslim Arabs practiced. Let's not leave out the Greeks and the Romans. It's a sad old
world we live in.

Knowing all the history doesn't excuse the existing systemic "racism"/ethnic bigotry that
still exists after all these years.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
12. Two sides?
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:15 PM
Mar 2021

Well his side has slave owners.

And the other side is millions of humans being enslaved and their “side” silenced.

Geez us.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
13. He's saying nothing remarkable or new, yet he gets national attention.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:16 PM
Mar 2021

There will never be a point in time in which the ignorant bigots among us cease to be.

And also, there will never be a point in time in which a bigot’s views aren’t cooked and served as though it’s some kind of new recipe that needs to be tried, just to have folks say, “Nope, still tastes bad.”

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
14. This is a prime example of white manplaining 101.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:18 PM
Mar 2021

That claptrap makes not sense and he needs to sit his ass down.

Thomas Hurt

(13,982 posts)
15. Christofascist newspeak: being "stuck" equals not being white or conservative enough to suit them.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:22 PM
Mar 2021

You have to be just like me to truly be free says the bigot.

CurtEastPoint

(20,025 posts)
16. Ohhhh...he got Pentecostal Jeebus on his side.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:22 PM
Mar 2021

Haroldson serves as lead pastor for Impact Ministries, an Assemblies of God affiliated Pentecostal church.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. True. I read that Jefferson found keeping them working optimally
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 05:07 PM
Mar 2021

was something he had to work at constantly.

UpInArms

(54,984 posts)
21. Such a shame
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:44 PM
Mar 2021

that his forefathers and foremothers were not shackled an put in the galley of some rickety ship, taken to a faraway land, forced by whip and chain to perform manual labor, deprived of owning anything, especially themselves, for generations ...

After hundreds of years, whoever was left could then be “freed” to be persecuted and vilified, or perhaps pulled from their home in the dark of night to be hung by sheetwearing hatefilled maniacal hoards of murderous men ...

Maybe, if those things had happened to him ... he would understand ...

But, no ... he’s an entitled white buffoon who knows less than nothing

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. Some probably were. Most people were in bondage in the middle ages
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 05:09 PM
Mar 2021

and before, and chattel, and of course sexual, slavery was practiced on various continents.

We don't identify with that past.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
24. The Oppressed and the Oppressor.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:04 PM
Mar 2021

why do these asshats all look the same?
this model, the phat phuck model, and the thousand mile stare model?

sop

(18,626 posts)
26. He thinks racism ended in the US with the 13th Amendment in 1865, refusing to acknowledge
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:10 PM
Mar 2021

the next 100 years of Jim Crow laws, the KKK, lynchings, lack pf civil rights, segregation and every other form of injustice and cruelty imaginable.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
28. See? Watch enough Fox, you can be an expert on *anything*
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:37 PM
Mar 2021

Too much face, not enough palm

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
30. I hope all of you realize by criticizing him, you become an anti white racist
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:42 PM
Mar 2021

... and you are therefore literally worse than Hitler !!!!!1!!

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
31. No, we are antifa. We defend those on the right side of history, not white revisionist fascists,
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 04:00 PM
Mar 2021

people backed by corporations using them as tools as they try to advance their fascist control of a democratic government.

azureblue

(2,728 posts)
34. as a matter of fact, there are two sides to the story
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 04:20 PM
Mar 2021

and maybe somebody should sit this idiot down and tell him the slave's side of the story.

Marcuse

(9,010 posts)
41. The oranges of the modern white supremacist people group:
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 04:56 PM
Mar 2021

“Slavery was something that shouldn’t have happened in America, but it did. But we’ve created slavery into a place that has created a position of being stuck, in my opinion, for a people group,”

patphil

(9,068 posts)
42. Nick Reynolds, just another face of white supremacy.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 05:01 PM
Mar 2021

Slavery was not what it has been painted?

Just what are the "different views" you are suggesting Mr. Reynolds?
Are you suggesting that white supremacy has gotten a raw deal?
That maybe being a slave owner wasn't all that bad for their slaves?
That a "liberal" education is somehow wrong? Remember, if Jesus was alive today he would most certainly be a liberal.

Looks like he's all in for a bit of right wing brainwashing of the children in the education curriculum.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
45. Two sides, sure. The right one and the wrong one.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 05:10 PM
Mar 2021

There are always two sides. Sometimes one of them is pure evil.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
46. When you're a state rep in WYOMING, keep your fool mouth shut.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 06:19 PM
Mar 2021

Odds are, as a White Guy in an overwhelmingly White state, you know shit about shit.

There's zero reason to discuss Slavery or that "people group" at all.

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