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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswould you support business that said you can only come in if you prove vaccination
Those would be my go to places.
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)Got to let everyone have a chance at the shot.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)There is no "both" with the J&J vaccine.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)They didn't get us "I got poked" stickers.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)On edit, I was giving a card so that I could get my second shot. I forgot about that. But we did not receive a second card.
Second edit. I'm an idiot and my wife proved it. When I asked her, she showed me right where it was.
So, yes, I have proof of my first and second shot.
I am such a dummy.
KPN
(15,643 posts)when it comes to stuff like this sometimes.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)Sometimes she actually believes it.
KPN
(15,643 posts)my wife does.
catbyte
(34,376 posts)good idea to take a picture of the front & back of my completed vaccination card with my phone or camera so I have a digital record of it in case something happens to the paper copy or if I need to submit it digitally for some reason. It seems like a good idea so it's enshrined on my phone and my cloud drive.
marie999
(3,334 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)I took a picture of that card so it is on my phone always
and my card is in with my other important papers
ChazII
(6,204 posts)to take a picture on my phone as well. I get my second chance 4/7.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)Tess49
(1,579 posts)and save it on my phone? Serious question. Why would anyone, other than me, care whether or not I've been vaccinated? I suppose a potential employer might want to see it. Maybe my physician, too. What else?
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)I suggested downloading a copy of proof from the states data base incase the card they give you is lost. What else? How about potentially people may need proof to travel or go to school.
Tess49
(1,579 posts)occurred to me that our vaccination status could become an issue. I'm old and never go anywhere, lol.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Tess49
(1,579 posts)someplace that is safer.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)Bluethroughu
(5,165 posts)Guidelines of masks. Yes, less anxiety.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)less anxiety
and I am an extrovert. I can talk to anyone any time but this last year has turned me into a recluse
Bluethroughu
(5,165 posts)Freddie
(9,265 posts)Airlines, maybe restaurants. I really miss going out to eat but I still think its risky because you (obviously) cant eat wearing a mask. Ill feel better about it when most people are vaccinated. Im done and DH had his 1st Pfizer today.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Just wear your mask.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I see the logic in this, both as a safety issue and as an incentive to get people to want to be vaccinated. But I gotta tell you - when someone starts telling me I HAVE to do something, there is an instantaneous response of oh no I dont. Then, I try to be reasonable and rational. I think a lot of people feel that way.
The problem I see with requiring this is going to be down the line - once we know the length of protection the vaccines give. For arguments sake, lets say its six months. Are people then going to need to prove that theyve received a current booster to come in to the business? Im not sure how realistically that would all play out.
gopiscrap
(23,758 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)I'm not sure I would avoid them but it is a poor choice. First of all, it's an invasion of privacy. Also, there might be legitimate reasons why people aren't vaccinated.
I understand why certain businesses might require vaccination for employees, but not really for customers.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)We're not Israel. The reasons to do it make sense but it's still a bad idea, especially in the US.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Whether good or bad (and Im undecided), its not going to happen here. I live in Texas and theres no way. We havent even been able to get the governor to keep a mask mandate.
As the pandemic comes more under control (and we all want that), there will be less and less incentive for businesses to make patrons show proof of vaccination. Businesses here were mad about doing simple temperature checks.
dweller
(23,629 posts)NO SHOES
NO SHIRT
NO SHOTS
NO SERVICE
might catch on ...
✌🏻
LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
wcmagumba
(2,886 posts)💉 It's common sense and for every one's sake...imo...🩹🧑?⚕️
KarenS
(4,074 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Many people seem sure. Im not sure well know until we see. Heres two opposite cases
Doctors office. You cant be treated unless you are vaccinated?
Bars. Im going to continue social distancing like six feet in line and wearing masks indoors until we know what happens with variants, transmittability, and reinfection. Im not going to a bar until I can sit there without a mask.
There are legitimate reasons why some people can't get vaccinated and legitimate reasons why they might not want to reveal that information to strangers.
Wednesdays
(17,362 posts)it'll become a moot point.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Being vaccinated won't keep me from getting COVID or passing it on
But it does prep my immune system to fight back, so my viral load will stay lower and my chances of getting really sick decrease
A decreased viral load may also lower my chances of passing the virus along, but the mask still helps with that
Ms. Toad
(34,069 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Updated Mar. 8, 2021
Fully vaccinated people can:
Visit with other fully vaccinated people indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
Visit with unvaccinated people from a single household who are at low risk for severe COVID-19 disease indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
Refrain from quarantine and testing following a known exposure if asymptomatic
For now, fully vaccinated people should continue to:
Take precautions in public like wearing a well-fitted mask and physical distancing
Wear masks, practice physical distancing, and adhere to other prevention measures when visiting with unvaccinated people who are at increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease or who have an unvaccinated household member who is at increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease
Wear masks, maintain physical distance, and practice other prevention measures when visiting with unvaccinated people from multiple households
Avoid medium- and large-sized in-person gatherings
Get tested if experiencing COVID-19 symptoms ...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
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meadowlander
(4,395 posts)I'd say any business that wants to try this should have a stable of top lawyers at the ready.
1. it's illegal to ask people for personal medical information (such as the reason they couldn't get the vaccine is because they're immunosuppressed, etc.)
2. it's illegal to deny people access to a business because of their personal medical conditions
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)that shouldn't happen until summer, at least.
I realize 100 million doses have been delivered, but a lot fewer than 100 million have gotten even one dose. Honestly, I'm becoming highly skeptical of those numbers. It just passes my understanding that a 72 year old who had a serious heart attack in December has somehow not risen to the top of the list. Maybe I should simply be happy that there really are so many who are older or sicker than I am.
Ka-Dinh Oy
(11,686 posts)Response to demtenjeep (Original post)
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cate94
(2,810 posts)For outdoor dining, no. Indoor dining, yes. Bars outdoors, no. Bars indoors, yes. Any outdoor activity allowing distancing, no. Indoor activities even with distancing, yes.
kelly1mm
(4,733 posts)these businesses as well? That could be a plus or a minus, depending on how you see things!
SergeStorms
(19,200 posts)for counterfeit vaccination cards, if there isnt already. Knowing how many anti-vaxxers there are in this country, but also knowing how entitled they all feel, they already realize that little card is going to be necessary to engage in certain activities in the near future. It wouldnt take much to counterfeit them, and there's always someone willing to break any rule/law to make a quick buck.
Just sayin'.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)People can register and get the info for them and immediate family. It won't be that easy to cheat.
Ms. Toad
(34,069 posts)now matter how much vaccine is available.
People allergic to one or more components of the vaccine (or who have a severe allergic reaction to their first dose, for example), and children under 16.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)PortTack
(32,762 posts)FlyingPiggy
(3,384 posts)At places that mandate and enforce mask wearing.
ecstatic
(32,701 posts)Even the vaccinated aren't out the woods when it comes to catching and/or spreading covid.
I think rules like that would create a false sense of security and increase the number of maskholes out there.
DFW
(54,370 posts)Probably not the best way to attract enough business to warrant opening the doors.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)You cannot travel to certain places without shots, or you cannot come back into our country. How is this different?
It's the same with school vacs for kids. I really don't see the problem when the shots are free.
Liberal In Texas
(13,548 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)and I am cool with that
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)its not mine? That makes no sense and could never be something that would work.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)Maybe there are specific categories of business that I might feel differently about specifically, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Midwestern Democrat
(806 posts)Demovictory9
(32,454 posts).