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would you support business that said you can only come in if you prove vaccination (Original Post) demtenjeep Mar 2021 OP
No. Nt VarryOn Mar 2021 #1
After June-- dawg day Mar 2021 #2
"Fully vaccinated" would be a better term dflprincess Mar 2021 #3
Even though I have had both shots, I couldn't prove it if my life depended on it. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #4
They didn't give you a vaccination card? LisaL Mar 2021 #6
The hospital gave no one vaccination cards. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #9
Lol. That's funny! Nice to know it's not just me KPN Mar 2021 #20
I tell her I do things like that just to keep her amused. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #22
Haha. I dunno. I bet she knows better. I know KPN Mar 2021 #26
The Health Department worker who was monitoring me after injection said that it was a catbyte Mar 2021 #42
Great idea, thanks. marie999 Mar 2021 #45
That is a great idea!! Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #56
you have your card demtenjeep Mar 2021 #7
It was suggested to me ChazII Mar 2021 #64
Most States have websites where you can download a certificate of immunization. BlueLucy Mar 2021 #12
I have the card showing my two vaccinations. Why do I need to take a picture of it Tess49 Mar 2021 #46
I didn't say anything about taking a picture of it. BlueLucy Mar 2021 #48
You're right. Lots of potential needs to carry it, or be able to document it. I guess it never Tess49 Mar 2021 #61
It's smart, in case you lose the original or forget to carry it. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #58
Mine is sitting in a desk drawer waiting to be lost among the other junk in there. I will put it Tess49 Mar 2021 #62
No. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #5
If their employees also had two vaccines, and still follow CDC Bluethroughu Mar 2021 #8
that was my feelings demtenjeep Mar 2021 #17
You are not alone, me too. Bluethroughu Mar 2021 #32
Depends on the business Freddie Mar 2021 #10
Yep. Fully vaccinated. BlueLucy Mar 2021 #11
Well, if *you're* fully vaccinated, does it matter? soothsayer Mar 2021 #13
I'm really undecided on this issue. hamsterjill Mar 2021 #14
Yes gopiscrap Mar 2021 #15
Yes. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2021 #16
No Renew Deal Mar 2021 #18
It's already happening in other countries like Israel. LisaL Mar 2021 #21
I know this is obvious but... Renew Deal Mar 2021 #24
It won't happen here. hamsterjill Mar 2021 #30
Hmmm dweller Mar 2021 #19
Once vaccine is widely available (which will be soon), then yes. LisaL Mar 2021 #23
By gosh yes...as soon as everyone has had the opportunity to get the shot(s)...maybe 2 or 3 months.. wcmagumba Mar 2021 #25
Heck yes!! I would do more if businesses did this. n/t KarenS Mar 2021 #27
Great question Midnightwalk Mar 2021 #28
No drmeow Mar 2021 #29
Once vaccinations become ubiquitous, Wednesdays Mar 2021 #31
Yes, but only if they require masks, social distancing, and have proper hygiene & infection control Klaralven Mar 2021 #33
Maybe my mask largely protects you but my vacc largely protects me struggle4progress Mar 2021 #34
The mask is effective to protect BOTH people. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #43
Interim Public Health Recommendations for Fully Vaccinated People struggle4progress Mar 2021 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2021 #35
Medical status is not an adequate basis for discrimination. meadowlander Mar 2021 #36
Since I haven't a clue when I might finally get the vaccine, PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #37
Yes Ka-Dinh Oy Mar 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Mar 2021 #39
Yes within parameters. cate94 Mar 2021 #40
Since none of the vaccines are approved for children will all children be banned from kelly1mm Mar 2021 #41
You know there's going to be a lucrative market... SergeStorms Mar 2021 #44
On the right wing/survivalist forums, they are already discussing buying counterfeit vaccine cards liberal_mama Mar 2021 #51
States have a data base where they keep names of people who have been vaccinated. BlueLucy Mar 2021 #53
There are people who will be unable to be vaccinated - Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #47
+1 Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #60
Yes!! Would be my number one go to! PortTack Mar 2021 #49
That would be exactly where I would go. As it is now, I only shop FlyingPiggy Mar 2021 #52
Would masks still be required? ecstatic Mar 2021 #54
Here, that means no one under the age of 80 is welcome DFW Mar 2021 #55
Yes, of course (once we can all get vaccinated). lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #57
Yes. No jab, no job. Just like when we travel. Greybnk48 Mar 2021 #59
Absolutely, especially after they become available to anybody who wants one. n/t Liberal In Texas Mar 2021 #63
The cruise we lost last year is rescheduled -All adults must be vaxxed demtenjeep Mar 2021 #65
How can you possibly prove it? I could get a pic of my BFF's card on my phone. Who is to know that Treefrog Mar 2021 #66
no...i wouldn't boycott them for it either, but it wouldn't make me more likely to support them fishwax Mar 2021 #67
No - I don't really want to go through "Your Papers Please" as a routine part of life. Midwestern Democrat Mar 2021 #68
Maybe..if all have equal access to vaccine Demovictory9 Mar 2021 #69

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
4. Even though I have had both shots, I couldn't prove it if my life depended on it.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:27 PM
Mar 2021

They didn't get us "I got poked" stickers.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
9. The hospital gave no one vaccination cards.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:29 PM
Mar 2021


On edit, I was giving a card so that I could get my second shot. I forgot about that. But we did not receive a second card.

Second edit. I'm an idiot and my wife proved it. When I asked her, she showed me right where it was.
So, yes, I have proof of my first and second shot.

I am such a dummy.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
42. The Health Department worker who was monitoring me after injection said that it was a
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:25 AM
Mar 2021

good idea to take a picture of the front & back of my completed vaccination card with my phone or camera so I have a digital record of it in case something happens to the paper copy or if I need to submit it digitally for some reason. It seems like a good idea so it's enshrined on my phone and my cloud drive.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
7. you have your card
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:28 PM
Mar 2021

I took a picture of that card so it is on my phone always



and my card is in with my other important papers

Tess49

(1,579 posts)
46. I have the card showing my two vaccinations. Why do I need to take a picture of it
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:33 AM
Mar 2021

and save it on my phone? Serious question. Why would anyone, other than me, care whether or not I've been vaccinated? I suppose a potential employer might want to see it. Maybe my physician, too. What else?

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
48. I didn't say anything about taking a picture of it.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:03 AM
Mar 2021

I suggested downloading a copy of proof from the states data base incase the card they give you is lost. What else? How about potentially people may need proof to travel or go to school.

Tess49

(1,579 posts)
61. You're right. Lots of potential needs to carry it, or be able to document it. I guess it never
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:29 PM
Mar 2021

occurred to me that our vaccination status could become an issue. I'm old and never go anywhere, lol.

Tess49

(1,579 posts)
62. Mine is sitting in a desk drawer waiting to be lost among the other junk in there. I will put it
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:32 PM
Mar 2021

someplace that is safer.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
17. that was my feelings
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:37 PM
Mar 2021

less anxiety


and I am an extrovert. I can talk to anyone any time but this last year has turned me into a recluse

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
10. Depends on the business
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:29 PM
Mar 2021

Airlines, maybe restaurants. I really miss going out to eat but I still think it’s risky because you (obviously) can’t eat wearing a mask. I’ll feel better about it when most people are vaccinated. I’m done and DH had his 1st Pfizer today.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
14. I'm really undecided on this issue.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:36 PM
Mar 2021

I see the logic in this, both as a safety issue and as an incentive to get people to want to be vaccinated. But I gotta tell you - when someone starts telling me I “HAVE” to do something, there is an instantaneous response of “oh no I don’t”. Then, I try to be reasonable and rational. I think a lot of people feel that way.

The problem I see with requiring this is going to be down the line - once we know the length of protection the vaccines give. For argument’s sake, let’s say it’s six months. Are people then going to need to prove that they’ve received a current booster to come in to the business? I’m not sure how realistically that would all play out.


Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
18. No
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:38 PM
Mar 2021

I'm not sure I would avoid them but it is a poor choice. First of all, it's an invasion of privacy. Also, there might be legitimate reasons why people aren't vaccinated.

I understand why certain businesses might require vaccination for employees, but not really for customers.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
24. I know this is obvious but...
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:50 PM
Mar 2021

We're not Israel. The reasons to do it make sense but it's still a bad idea, especially in the US.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
30. It won't happen here.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:14 PM
Mar 2021

Whether good or bad (and I’m undecided), it’s not going to happen here. I live in Texas and there’s no way. We haven’t even been able to get the governor to keep a mask mandate.

As the pandemic comes more under control (and we all want that), there will be less and less incentive for businesses to make patrons show proof of vaccination. Businesses here were mad about doing simple temperature checks.

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
25. By gosh yes...as soon as everyone has had the opportunity to get the shot(s)...maybe 2 or 3 months..
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:52 PM
Mar 2021

💉 It's common sense and for every one's sake...imo...🩹🧑?⚕️

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
28. Great question
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:00 PM
Mar 2021

Many people seem sure. I’m not sure we’ll know until we see. Here’s two opposite cases

Doctor’s office. You can’t be treated unless you are vaccinated?

Bars. I’m going to continue social distancing like six feet in line and wearing masks indoors until we know what happens with variants, transmittability, and reinfection. I’m not going to a bar until I can sit there without a mask.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
29. No
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:03 PM
Mar 2021

There are legitimate reasons why some people can't get vaccinated and legitimate reasons why they might not want to reveal that information to strangers.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
34. Maybe my mask largely protects you but my vacc largely protects me
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:36 PM
Mar 2021

Being vaccinated won't keep me from getting COVID or passing it on

But it does prep my immune system to fight back, so my viral load will stay lower and my chances of getting really sick decrease

A decreased viral load may also lower my chances of passing the virus along, but the mask still helps with that

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
50. Interim Public Health Recommendations for Fully Vaccinated People
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:06 AM
Mar 2021

Updated Mar. 8, 2021

Fully vaccinated people can:

Visit with other fully vaccinated people indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
Visit with unvaccinated people from a single household who are at low risk for severe COVID-19 disease indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
Refrain from quarantine and testing following a known exposure if asymptomatic

For now, fully vaccinated people should continue to:

Take precautions in public like wearing a well-fitted mask and physical distancing
Wear masks, practice physical distancing, and adhere to other prevention measures when visiting with unvaccinated people who are at increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease or who have an unvaccinated household member who is at increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease
Wear masks, maintain physical distance, and practice other prevention measures when visiting with unvaccinated people from multiple households
Avoid medium- and large-sized in-person gatherings
Get tested if experiencing COVID-19 symptoms ...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

Response to demtenjeep (Original post)

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
36. Medical status is not an adequate basis for discrimination.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:58 PM
Mar 2021

I'd say any business that wants to try this should have a stable of top lawyers at the ready.

1. it's illegal to ask people for personal medical information (such as the reason they couldn't get the vaccine is because they're immunosuppressed, etc.)
2. it's illegal to deny people access to a business because of their personal medical conditions

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
37. Since I haven't a clue when I might finally get the vaccine,
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 12:03 AM
Mar 2021

that shouldn't happen until summer, at least.

I realize 100 million doses have been delivered, but a lot fewer than 100 million have gotten even one dose. Honestly, I'm becoming highly skeptical of those numbers. It just passes my understanding that a 72 year old who had a serious heart attack in December has somehow not risen to the top of the list. Maybe I should simply be happy that there really are so many who are older or sicker than I am.

Response to demtenjeep (Original post)

cate94

(2,810 posts)
40. Yes within parameters.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:17 AM
Mar 2021

For outdoor dining, no. Indoor dining, yes. Bars outdoors, no. Bars indoors, yes. Any outdoor activity allowing distancing, no. Indoor activities even with distancing, yes.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
41. Since none of the vaccines are approved for children will all children be banned from
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:18 AM
Mar 2021

these businesses as well? That could be a plus or a minus, depending on how you see things!

SergeStorms

(19,200 posts)
44. You know there's going to be a lucrative market...
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:32 AM
Mar 2021

for counterfeit vaccination cards, if there isnt already. Knowing how many anti-vaxxers there are in this country, but also knowing how entitled they all feel, they already realize that little card is going to be necessary to engage in certain activities in the near future. It wouldnt take much to counterfeit them, and there's always someone willing to break any rule/law to make a quick buck.

Just sayin'.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
53. States have a data base where they keep names of people who have been vaccinated.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:18 AM
Mar 2021

People can register and get the info for them and immediate family. It won't be that easy to cheat.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
47. There are people who will be unable to be vaccinated -
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:37 AM
Mar 2021

now matter how much vaccine is available.

People allergic to one or more components of the vaccine (or who have a severe allergic reaction to their first dose, for example), and children under 16.

FlyingPiggy

(3,384 posts)
52. That would be exactly where I would go. As it is now, I only shop
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:17 AM
Mar 2021

At places that mandate and enforce mask wearing.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
54. Would masks still be required?
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:26 AM
Mar 2021

Even the vaccinated aren't out the woods when it comes to catching and/or spreading covid.

I think rules like that would create a false sense of security and increase the number of maskholes out there.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
55. Here, that means no one under the age of 80 is welcome
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 03:21 AM
Mar 2021

Probably not the best way to attract enough business to warrant opening the doors.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
59. Yes. No jab, no job. Just like when we travel.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 09:55 AM
Mar 2021

You cannot travel to certain places without shots, or you cannot come back into our country. How is this different?

It's the same with school vacs for kids. I really don't see the problem when the shots are free.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
66. How can you possibly prove it? I could get a pic of my BFF's card on my phone. Who is to know that
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 04:47 PM
Mar 2021

it’s not mine? That makes no sense and could never be something that would work.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
67. no...i wouldn't boycott them for it either, but it wouldn't make me more likely to support them
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 04:50 PM
Mar 2021

Maybe there are specific categories of business that I might feel differently about specifically, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

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