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Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 12:32 AM Mar 2021

"It will be Armageddon": Some Democrats fear midterm backlash without filibuster reform



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"It will be Armageddon," Senator Jeff Merkley said when asked whether Democrats will suffer in the midterms if they don't enact filibuster reforms. "Our base will be so dispirited, so angry, so disaffected. They will stay home.”

"It will be Armageddon": Some Democrats fear midterm backlash without filibuster reform
Support for significant filibuster changes is still a long way off.
cbsnews.com
8:03 PM · Mar 18, 2021


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/filibuster-democrats-midterm-backlash/

When President Biden expressed support for a modest filibuster change this week, reform advocates took it as a major turning point. Their cause for celebration? The president was acknowledging that the fate of his agenda is tied to Senate procedure, which makes it difficult to deliver on campaign promises. And a stymied agenda could have consequences for the party.

"It will be Armageddon," Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley told CBS News when asked whether Democrats will suffer in the midterms if they don't enact filibuster reforms. "Our base will be so dispirited, so angry, so disaffected. They will stay home. And I understand why they will stay home if we failed them."

Merkley has long been pushing for filibuster changes, and introduced the "talking filibuster" which would require senators to actually hold the floor to hold up legislation rather than the current practice of phoning it in. In an interview with ABC News, Mr. Biden said he supported that kind of reform, which reminded him of how the upper chamber operated in his early days as a senator. Now, he said, "It's getting to the point where, you know, democracy is having a hard time functioning."

Support for significant filibuster changes is still a long way off, with some Democratic senators like Joe Manchin maintaining opposition to changing the 60-vote threshold for legislation even as they appear open to adjustments.

But advocates note that Republicans haven't yet filibustered legislation, such as the COVID relief bill, which was passed on party lines through a reconciliation process that only requires majority support. Once the opposition begins in earnest to agenda items like voting rights, climate, immigration and other Democratic priorities, the calls from the base of the party to change the upper chamber's rules will only grow louder.

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"It will be Armageddon": Some Democrats fear midterm backlash without filibuster reform (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 2021 OP
If we don't get voting rights fixed for sure.... rickyhall Mar 2021 #1
Yeah, and fixing voting rights requires Filibuster reform. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #10
Go big or go home n/t shanti Mar 2021 #2
We have to stop reacting to McConnell's threats Colgate 64 Mar 2021 #3
Absolutely! We can't be cowered into inaction PortTack Mar 2021 #6
"So dispirited they will stay home" stopdiggin Mar 2021 #4
Yeah, not a fan of this kinda stuff ... I will only be spirited to get more Democrats Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2021 #5
It may be getting very tiring as you say, but KPN Mar 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author stopdiggin Mar 2021 #8
my remarks are not directed toward Merkley so much stopdiggin Mar 2021 #11
I guess I haven't seen much along the lines of people KPN Mar 2021 #13
your last line here, particularly, is NOT a surprise to me (nt) stopdiggin Mar 2021 #14
Okay ... KPN Mar 2021 #15
Modesty is for shite here. RANDYWILDMAN Mar 2021 #9
As my mother used to say... Tracer Mar 2021 #12

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. Yeah, and fixing voting rights requires Filibuster reform.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:46 PM
Mar 2021

So there isn't any other option. Fix the Filibuster, then voting rights, or America is OVER.

Colgate 64

(14,732 posts)
3. We have to stop reacting to McConnell's threats
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 12:59 AM
Mar 2021

and govern like the Repukes do when they are in power. If we want it, we do it Consequences be damned. And of we do that we will be rewarded by the voters in 2022 and 2024. If we don't, look forward to a long, long spell as the minority party.

PortTack

(32,762 posts)
6. Absolutely! We can't be cowered into inaction
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:58 AM
Mar 2021

The shit turtle said the qgop would do, they will do anyway

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
4. "So dispirited they will stay home"
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:20 AM
Mar 2021

This is getting very tired. I'll give the Senator the benefit in that this is just political palaver -- but it is still old, tired -- and dispiriting.

(I'm personally in favor of filibuster reform, HR.1+4, and the majority of the agenda. Don't care for the threats, or political tantrums.)

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. Yeah, not a fan of this kinda stuff ... I will only be spirited to get more Democrats
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:51 AM
Mar 2021

elected pretty much no matter what happens.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
7. It may be getting very tiring as you say, but
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 05:34 AM
Mar 2021

Merkley is only stating a reality that must be faced. He isn’t talking about you with his comment. To some degree, the voter turnout this year was anti-Trump whether we like that or not. Some of those votes were people who have tuned out in the past because they hadn’t seen results. He’s talking about those people. Results are what will keep them engaged.

Response to KPN (Reply #7)

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
11. my remarks are not directed toward Merkley so much
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:50 PM
Mar 2021

as they are at the 'stay at home' threat. People that are already talking about 'disaffection' and dissatisfaction for the Biden administration .... I mean, really. Seriously? That doesn't sound just a little bit shrill to you? I just don't have a lot of time for this -- or them.

And further -- not a whole lot of Fs to give for people that 'can't be bothered' -- or aren't satisfied with 'the choices available' -- as far as voting. Y'all want to fuck around and do 2016 (and 4 years of Donald Trump again) -- be my guest. Hope y'all are real happy with Ted Cruz!

Edit: Upon reflection, I have to assume that Senator Merkley's 'base" -- must consist of attitudes and sensibilities that stray far from mine. I guess that's okay. Takes all kinds!

KPN

(15,643 posts)
13. I guess I haven't seen much along the lines of people
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 03:14 PM
Mar 2021

talking about being disaffected or dissatisfied with the Biden administration. His support his huge — at historic levels frankly. The downside of that is that people are thrilled with the administration and actually have high expectations. With that comes the risk of results falling far short. People will support missing the bullseye, but not missing the target. That’s all Merkley is talking about. He didn’t use the phraseology the author uses.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
15. Okay ...
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 03:44 PM
Mar 2021

Edit: I take that back. My bad. I should have read the article again before saying that but about Armageddon. So okay, Merkley was rather hyperbolic stating it that way.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
9. Modesty is for shite here.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:33 PM
Mar 2021

How would the repubs play it here. DIRTY

Get it done make some progress, keep and grow the true majority or DON"T

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