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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStimulus round 3 SS,SSI,SSDI and VA *updated*
Apparently there is a problem and the finger pointing has begun. In phone calls to the IRS they say they have not received information of non filers from the Social Security Administration. Then phone calls were made to SSA and they claim they have sent all information to the IRS and they have nothing else to send. Im in a group that is in the hundreds of thousands approximately 200k and 7 have said they have received stim3. Also the March 22nd date is a internet myth according to the IRS and nothing official has been announced.
So whats the truth?
Edited to add in the discussion section of the group its beginning to get political and some are without merit blaming the Biden Administration go figure. Hopefully payments are sent before Fox starts the they are starving grandma and grandpa stories.
*Update*
So the IRS finally announced a date if you get SSI,SSDI your payment date is April 7th if you are Veterans Affairs your date is a vague Mid-April.
To say this is causing an uproar on social media towards the administration is putting it mildly. My veteran group is claiming Biden is to blame which is not true of course but being a lone firefighter is not going to help with this blaze. Especially after it was announced last week was one of the largest influx of pure cash from people just willing to stockpile their $1400 and didnt need it.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)DVRacer
(707 posts)I think there is some holdover trying to make the administration look bad. Aka a rat
msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)waiting.. we're all of us Senior low income, SS and SSI. We even very nearly receive almost the same amount.
I know in my guts this a political scheme, to chip away at Biden's approval numbers. Because the Republicans can't stand the truth about who that monster is they support.
What people have to do is start making a whole lot of phone calls to their reps and Senators.
Can you hear the calls Diane?? Does it even mean anything at all to you?
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #1)
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Butterflylady
(3,543 posts)First one came by paper check, second one by dd and nothing yet about the third one. I don't understand why.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)Both hubby and my stimulus money was direct deposited into the same accounts as our regular SS funds go into. They were a bit later than some filers were but not a lot. Some of my filing friends and family got theirs on the 17th so I'm hoping we get ours within the next week.
If the hypocritical Fox and 'cons actually gave a darn about "grandma and grandpa" or vets they should stop messing with decreasing/eliminating benefits and put more funds in our pockets and health benefits to our plans.
Cetacea
(7,367 posts)time.
DVRacer
(707 posts)Something is wrong my group is large and 90-95% have not received the stimulus.
DVRacer
(707 posts)And we are not getting any information this is super frustrating.
dsc
(52,160 posts)not sure why he lucked out.
Elessar Zappa
(13,975 posts)and haven't received the $600 or $1400. I desperately need it. I'm betting it's Trump holdovers who are fucking things up.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)President Harry S Truman famously had a sign on his desk that read the buck stops here. If Andrew Saul, the man Donald Trump put in charge of the Social Security Administration (SSA), had a sign on his desk, it would say its never my fault.
Nearly 30 million Social Security beneficiaries are facing weeks-long delays in receiving their COVID relief checks. These are seniors and people with disabilities, many of whom live on fixed incomes and desperately need these checks. Instead of taking responsibility, Saul and his deputy David Black are pointing fingers, making excuses, and flat out lying.
We wont let their lies go unchallenged. Social Security Works is getting the truth into the mediaand calling on President Biden to fire these Trump cronies immediately! Chip in to our campaign today!
Several weeks before the American Rescue Plan became law, the IRS asked SSA for the data needed to send $1,400 survival checks to Social Security beneficiaries. For a full month, Saul and Black failed to send the data.1 As a direct result, seniors and people with disabilities across the country did not receive their relief checks.
Finally, Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee took action. Congressmen Richard Neal (D-MA), John Larson (D-CT), Bill Pascrell (D-NJ), and Danny Davis (D-IL) issued an ultimatum. In the words of Rep. Pascrell, We are giving the trump-appointed heads of the Social Security Admin 24 Hours to get off their backsides and stop delaying sending stimulus checks to 30,000,000 Americans.2
The congressional pressure worked. The next day, Saul and Black finally sent the IRS the data to send out the checks. But by dragging their feet for a month, they ensured that the survival checks would arrive weeks latea catastrophic delay for seniors and people with disabilities who are counting on those checks to pay for food, housing, and medicines.
Every day these Trumpists are allowed to remain in charge of our Social Security system is another day that they can harm seniors. Thats why were keeping the pressure on President Biden to save Social Security from these Trump holdovers! Chip in $7 today!
Saul and Black insist that the delay was not their fault, claiming that a bureaucratic error in the stimulus bill prevented them from sharing data. They are lying. Asked about Sauls claims, a spokesperson for the Ways and Means Committee told Newsweek:3
Funds could not be directly appropriated because of the reconciliation process, but they were appropriated to Treasury with the intent that they would be distributed to SSA in a timely manner, so this line of defense doesn't hold. It inexplicably took two weeks for the transfer to happen after the American Rescue Plan was signed into law, which is a clear failure of leadership from SSA.
Doubling down on his lies in an extremely defensive statement,4 Saul tried to hide behind the agencys workforce. There is no one more committed to serving the public than the employees of this agency, said Saul. I find any insinuation to the contrary to be unacceptable.
SSA employees are indeed dedicated to serving the public. Thats why they want President Biden to immediately fire Saul and Black, who are undermining the agencys mission. Back in December, unions representing the SSA workforce held nearly unanimous no-confidence votes for Saul and Black.5 The people who know Saul and Blacks leadership best want them gone.
President Biden has a lot on his plateits up to us to make sure that he protects people on Social Security from these Trump appointees! The pressure is working--but we cant let up! Chip in $7 today!
Its unclear if Saul and Black delayed the survival checks in a deliberate attempt to sabotage the Biden administration, or if they are just extremely incompetent. But their record shows that they deserve zero benefit of the doubt.
For years, Saul and Black have worked to cut Social Security benefits and union-bust the agencys workforce. They want to make it harder to qualify for Social Security disability benefits, and easier to take them away. According to a whistleblower report,
6 they threatened to fire judges for approving too many disability claimswhich is illegal.
The drumbeat for President Biden to remove Saul and Black is growing. In January, several unions representing the SSA workforce urged Biden to remove Saul and Black on day one of his administration.7 During his first weeks in office, Biden made some positive personnel changes, but failed to remove Saul and Back.
In February, in his first act as chair of the Senate Social Security Subcommittee, Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) called Saul and Black key agents of the Trump agenda to dismantle Social Security and urged Biden to remove them immediately.8 Weeks ago, Reps. Pascrell, Larson, and Daviswho are all chairs of key House subcommitteesjoined the calls for the removal of Saul and Black, stating that they have pushed substantial cuts to Social Security and engaged in aggressive anti-union activities.9
Their sabotage of the survival checks shows that just because a new president is in the White House doesnt mean Saul and Black will stop acting as Donald Trumps agents. Joe Biden ran for president on a promise to protect and expand Social Security. To fulfill it, he needs leadership at the Social Security Administration who will work with him, not against him.
Donate $7 to send the message: President Biden, its long past time: Fire Andrew Saul and David Black immediately.
Thanks,
Alex Lawson
Social Security Works
P.S. Our petition calling on President Biden to fire Saul & Black already has more than 80,000 signatures. Can you help us get over 100,000 by signing today if you havent already, or forwarding this to your friends if you have?
1 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/social-security-stimulus-payments-holdup-irs_n_605bae35c5b6531eed018de9
2
Link to tweet
3 https://www.newsweek.com/social-security-stimulus-delay-ssa-blames-staff-funding-congress-irs-1579030
4 https://blog.ssa.gov/commissioner-statement-on-economic-impact-payments/
5 https://www.federaltimes.com/management/leadership/2020/12/09/social-security-leaders-receive-double-no-confidence-votes/
6 https://news.yahoo.com/trump-appointed-social-security-administration-officials-test-bidens-ability-to-forge-new-agenda-090005885.html
7 https://www.govexec.com/management/2021/01/social-security-unions-urge-biden-oust-agency-leadership-day-one/171356/
8 https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/02/sen-sherrod-brown-wants-to-boot-trump-appointees-who-lead-the-social-security-administration.html
9 https://larson.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/larson-davis-pascrell-call-removal-social-security-commissioner-and
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)There was literally nothing at IRS until yesterday.
I understand now that my check will be in the mail on Friday. I filed taxes and paid a bit from my account. I receive SS benefits.