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As Democrats, we respect and highly regard our former Presidents and Candidates. It's not that we refrain from criticism, but be still think they are relevant and still honor them. It is worth it to us to listen to Carter and Clinton and Kerry and Obama and Clinton. We like and or love them all.
But the GOP has only one living past President before Trump, and he is irrelevant to them. When he comes out and makes a statement, like urging people to get the vaccine, it doesn't move the needle for Republican voters.
People talk about how Republicans aren't the Party of Goldwater anymore. Well, they aren't the Party of Reagan (who was once their Holy Spirit) or the Party of Bush. It is astonishing how a recent two term President is irrelevant to his own Party
They are solely the Party of Trump. A Party with no political agenda save white supremacy, racism and tearing down our Country's institutions.
I am by no means sying any of those men deserve our respect, They did great harm to the Country. But from a GOP perspective, it is a curious thing.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)but it seems to be true for many.
Having said that, they still don't remove the pictures of Raygun they have in their homes and business establishments.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)bush the dummy
Aristus
(66,369 posts)institutions.
They just did it in a way that, compared to Trump, at least, was remarkably subtle.
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)His giving a speech about states' rights in Neshoba County Mississippi after receiving the nomination in 1980 tells you all you need to know about where he was coming from.
Aristus
(66,369 posts)n/t
Mike Nelson
(9,955 posts)... that's a good point. They don't care much for Romney or McCain, either. I didn't and still don't have much admiration for Bush Jr. They also had Nixon and Ford. Reagan was the one they really adored - but after his first year, Reagan wasn't their ideal anymore... signing a new Social Security Tax, MLK Day, Sandra Day O'Conner, compromising with Tip, partying with the Communists... they have not mentioned Reagan as much. Trump is their leader.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... someday.
Then they'll roll out some other dummy, acting like he/she is the best choice when any discerning person can quickly tell otherwise.
skypilot
(8,854 posts)...they'll forget about Trump too the minute that some fire-breathing troglodyte worse than him comes along.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,431 posts)Because it's true.
For a party that denies evolution, every single one of their idols has evolved to be exponentially worse. I don't want to see the next one after MF45.
rurallib
(62,415 posts)Bush or Trump? Is one a zombie?
edhopper
(33,579 posts)I left out a part of a sentence.
rurallib
(62,415 posts)had taken a trip to see his horned, tailed maker.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,431 posts)so I don't consider him to be a legitimate president at all.
yellowdogintexas
(22,252 posts)Ocelot II
(115,693 posts)As bad as he was in many ways, he didn't go out of his way to be overtly and viciously racist - a characteristic which, to today's GOPers, is a feature rather than a bug.
Martin Eden
(12,867 posts)I'd like to see him and Dick Cheney in The Hague for war crimes.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,431 posts)Me too! It disgusts me that so many people consider either of them, or Cheney's filthy spawn, to be rehabilitated just because MF45 is worse.
Martin Eden
(12,867 posts)When GW Bush left office I wrote this poem for what I'd say to his face if I could:
I'd tell you to go fuck yourself
But that is much too kind
For if you could perform that feat
You'd take pleasure in your behind
I'd like to say eat shit and die
But you deserve much more
You should suffer all the grief and pain
Of your misbegotten war
Though I can never make you think
Or feel, or understand
I'll take solace when you hear your name
Cursed throughout the land
From inside a lonely prison cell
Dark and bare and cold
Where every day you pay for your crimes
Until you're sick, heartbroken, and old
When you finally leave the earth
You fucked over oh so well
If there is a God and afterlife
You're going straight to hell.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,431 posts)It should be emailed to every republicon every day.
Walleye
(31,022 posts)dflprincess
(28,078 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,431 posts)There was more than enough probable cause that Kerry should NEVER have conceded the next day.
Coincidentally, the IT expert scheduled to testify about the man in the middle attack had a "small plane accident" on his way to DC+
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)Polybius
(15,413 posts)But I still think he probably lost the popular vote.
DFW
(54,378 posts)From 2001 to 2009, the man running things was Dick Cheney, not Bush. If Bush was irrelevant while in office, he sure as hell didn't get any more relevant after he left office.
mnmoderatedem
(3,728 posts)I'm old enough to remember when Dubya could do no wrong among their ranks.
Now, recently he made the declaration that, when he was asked about the election, that it was not in fact rigged, stating the obvious. That should be enough right there to merit ostracization among the rebubs.
Reminds me of the disparaging comments trump made regarding McCain, i.e. not a war hero because he was captured. And the party that claims to support the military veterans didn't seem to mind one bit.
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)And his father didn't shoot enough black people during the Rodney King riots
Not racist enough.
Unacceptable to the MAGA fans
edhopper
(33,579 posts)so that alone....
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Im not joking. Watch their faces when someone is suggesting that they maybe possibly give a shit about anyone or anything that doesnt directly benefit them.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)hate people who want to help or benefit them too. They hate Biden getting everyone the vaccine, they hate Medicaid expansion, even those who desperately need it. They hate making it easier for them to vote. They hate cleaning up their own polluted States. They hate getting a raise from the increase in minimum wage. The list goes on.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)It really comes out during lunch outings with the office crew. They hate it when I tip well. They hate it when I hand twenty bucks to a homeless person who asks for money. This is a direct quote from one of my esteemed coworkers: Oh thats right. [Iggo] helps. And this gem, one of my all-time favorites: I hate it when people try to make me feel guilty. And I think that last one is really telling. That one guy, at least, thinks I do it to make him look bad. Not because I care. Not because its the right thing to do. Not even that it just needs to be done. Somehow, its all just to make him look bad.
malaise
(268,998 posts)He was responsible for as many deaths in Iraq as Trump re Covid
edhopper
(33,579 posts)This thread is not about how we should respect Bush. It's about how the GOP has jettisoned all it's pasts leaders in favor of Trumpism.
malaise
(268,998 posts)Sheeple will be sheeple
Polybius
(15,413 posts)Millions died in Bush's wars and the terrorist acts that resulted from them.
Nothing he says matters but ReTHUG sheeple just follow whoever is anointed their new messiah.
Polybius
(15,413 posts)He was responsible for millions of deaths, wars that spawned terrorist groups, the loss of civil liberties with the unPatriot Act, and endless wars that we are still involved in. I don't blame them one bit for wanting for forget that monster.
WarGamer
(12,444 posts)W was waaaay worse.
His Iraq War was not only responsible for millions of deaths in Iraq... but it started the upheaval of the Middle East which led to violent uprisings all across the region.
ISIS... the GOP call Obama the "Father of ISIS"... nonsense. W is the father of ISIS.
Egypt... Mubarak was a bad guy BUT he kept the country in order. Instability ensued when he was overthrown and multiple gov'ts have been in power since. Don't forget the Islamic Brotherhood thugs throwing protestors from roof tops.
Libya... same thing. W created the instability.
All over the Middle East.
I'd rank W as a bottom 3 choice in the POTUS rankings. Maybe last place.
WarGamer
(12,444 posts)This is NOT the Bill Kristol/Steve Schmidt GOP.
They were pro-war, pro-nation building, free market and low tax loving neocons.
This new GOP is a blend of populists, racists, angry white folks who got left behind, evangelicals and the envious.