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Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:37 AM Mar 2021

It may be required to break the filibuster to actually get ANYTHING done with the Senate as is, but

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How bad do you think things could it get if/when the Republican regain the majority, taking into account who vindictive they are, not to mention they're general lack of concern for governance or the needs and desires of their constituents and long memories for being stymied?

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JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
9. Dems would gain 2 senators if DC became a state.
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 01:34 PM
Mar 2021

PR, not so easy to predict.

What would the "DC" state be named? "Columbia" comes to mind, but that smacks of "Columbus", whose name is tainted these days.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
3. look at the parade of horribles that McConnell himself gave
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:46 AM
Mar 2021

the fact is many would be insanely unpopular and not get 50 votes. The rest can be accomplished and will be accomplished by them via SCOTUS and states.

Nationwide conscious clause, that is what Fulton V Philly will give us
Abortion bans, those are on their way as I type. Within 5 years there will be a multitude of states that have no abortion clinics and many others with only 1. Many other states will have such restrictions on abortion that it will be all but impossible to get them. All accomplished by SCOTUS and states.
nationwide concealed carry SCOTUS again
nationwide right to work, SCOTUS delivered that for public workers already.
The fact is the filibuster is a one sided weapon

markie

(22,756 posts)
4. what's the difference??
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:47 AM
Mar 2021

they have proven that they will be vindictive and unfair even if we don't have the filibuster...

it really can't be any worse

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
6. This is my thinking
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:32 AM
Mar 2021

And if we return to the way Congress used to function someday, we can consider bringing it back.

Scrivener7

(50,932 posts)
5. They don't pass legislation when they are in power, they block legislation when they are
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:55 AM
Mar 2021

out of power.

We need to do it.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
11. When you think about it, the existence of the filibuster takes democracy away.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:33 AM
Mar 2021

Majority is supposed to rule, not super majority. The whole form of government makes no sense. When California has 2 senators and North Dakota also has 2, our "democracy" isn't really representative of the majority of the people. I have no idea what the answer is short of intelligence/common sense/morality implants in all Republicans. They will abuse the system whether they're in the majority or the minority. Sometimes I think we should have an organized scheme to move hundreds of thousands of Democrats to low population red states just long enough to flip the state to sanity.

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