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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe mood is so bad at the U.S. Capitol that.....
....a Democratic congressman recently let an elevator pass him by rather than ride with Republican colleagues who voted against certifying Joe Bidens election.
Republicans say its Democrats who just need to get over it move on from the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, end the COVID-19 restrictions and make an effort toward bipartisanship.
Not yet 100 days into the new Congress, the legislative branch has become an increasingly toxic and unsettled place, with lawmakers frustrated by the work-from-home limits imposed by the coronavirus and suspicious of each other after the Jan. 6 riot over Donald Trumps presidency.
Particularly in the House, which remains partly shuttered by the pandemic and where lawmakers heard gunshots ring out during the siege, trust is low, settled facts about the riot are apparently up for debate and wary, exhausted members are unsure how or when the Peoples House will return to normal.
One newer congresswoman said its heartbreaking to see what has become of the institution she cherished, in the country she has taken an oath to defend from enemies foreign and domestic.
You know, I do sometimes just close my eyes and, like, picture this place in the way that it used to be, and how welcoming it was, said Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., first elected in 2018.
An immigrant from Somalia, she said she draws on the coping skills she learned as a child in wartime to enter the razor-wire fenced Capitol, now with armed members of the National Guard, to try to pretend that thats not what it is.
The first months of the year have laid bare the scars from the historic, unprecedented events. The fallout extends far beyond the broken windows and gouged walls of the Capitol to the loss that comes from the absence of usual routines and visitors that were the daily hum of democracy. With virtual meetings and socially distanced votes, lawmakers have fewer opportunities to talk to each other, share ideas and ease fears in the aftermath of the riot.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/capitol-riot-coronavirus-fallout-capitol-hill_n_6055eb43c5b66a80f4e7ccc6
joetheman
(1,450 posts)the insurrectionist enabler in the House and Senate are tried and convicted of attempting to overthrow the government and removed from office. Yep, we should move on.
betsuni
(25,519 posts)aocommunalpunch
(4,237 posts)Mariana
(14,857 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)How does it pertain to Omar feeling afraid of the Republican seditious traitors?
Percy
(721 posts)How disappointing. That kind of behavior contributes to lowering the standards of respect we expect in the house and senate. The republicans are running with it. I don't like seeing dems doing it.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)Ms Langford interrupted and said: "We're not going to boo, we're classy here."
At this point Ms Tlaib interjected: "No, no, I'll boo."
As Ms Jayapal and Ms Omar laughed, Ms Tlaib added: "You all know I can't be quiet. No, we're going to boo. That's all right, the haters will shut up on Monday when we win."
Monday's caucuses will be the first formal test this year of Democratic voters' preferences. Senator Sanders is the frontrunner, with a slight lead ahead of his nearest rival, former Vice President Joe Biden.
ramen
(790 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)Hillary Clintons efforts for women everywhere were part of what you were able to take advantage of, to get your own seat in the House of Reps. Hillary had the guts to forge ahead and build the foundation that gave Kamala Harris a jumping-off point to break yet another class ceiling.
But Hillary was first up, and in 2008 was responsible for leaving 18 million cracks in it. SHE stuck her neck out and took the insults and the snark and the put-downs and the criticism and the disrespect, and as long as shes been a national public figure (starting in 1992, btw - how old were YOU back then?), she took all that shit and abuse and forged ahead ANYWAY, with courage, conviction, energy, perseverance, class, humor, and grace. SHE broke through all that, so women like you could build on that beginning, and forge your own path to victory in your own right. That leadership on her part made YOUR opportunities more feasible, realistic, probable - AND REACHABLE, Rep. Tlaib.
She took all that shit so maybe later arrivals like you wouldnt have to, quite as much or as badly.
And if I ever get an appeal from you for a campaign donation, hope you dont mind if I say no no, ILL boo! And dont expect me to forget, either, anytime soon.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)Directing them specifically at Rep. Tlaib.
Ive donated to enough Democratic campaigns that it wouldnt surprise me if I was on some list to which shed have access, by now.
Fortunately there are Democrats aplenty whom I can happily support, other than Tlaib.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)That is all.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)Percy
(721 posts)if they forget what it took to get here.
Short fuses and attention grabbing wise ass statements make for a short political life. Not to mention that kind of arrogance hurt Bernie's chances in the end. I can't imagine he was very happy to hear about it either.
calimary
(81,267 posts)Response to Percy (Reply #62)
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Hekate
(90,686 posts)She has paid her dues and then some.
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 21, 2021, 03:11 AM - Edit history (1)
Said no one liked Bernie Sanders. It didn't come out of the blue. It was in response to comments she made on a Hulu documentary.
Tlaib should have said "don't boo, vote" like Obama but she has to deal with Islamaphobic hate including from people within her own party.
This whole subthread started over what Muslim Democratic Congresswoman did what. Also none of this has anything to do with the OP.
Tlaib supported Obama's campaign in 2008. You can see her in the documentary By the People: The Election of Barack Obama on HBO. Kamala Harris is also in the documentary supporting Obama's campaign.
calimary
(81,267 posts)I dont like him either so Im not going to find a Hillary statement like that to be off-putting.
And I remain firmly convinced that his foot-dragging hurt her election prospects. I wont - and CANT - ever forget how she clinched the nomination in June of 2016, and he made her wait for a gesture of support til AFTER nomination night (when she gave over a big chunk of HER nomination speech to reaching out to Bernie and thanking him and complimenting him and acknowledging him as a bigtime player - while he sat and pouted on the sidelines and didnt even wave or smile at her or give her a thumbs-up or ANY return-acknowledgment on HER big night). And then he gave her a mere 16 days worth of campaigning between end-of-convention to Election Week in November. There were MANY more than 16 days between those two dates - and his slow and half-hearted response only validated the disappointment we heard openly from many of his supporters - who otherwise might have gotten behind her more enthusiastically if hed been more enthusiastic about leading them there.
Lets just say if I HAD been a Bernie fan at that time, that glaring and childish display of poor sportsmanship and refusal to unify would have deep-sixed it for me. But I was already there. My distaste for Senator Sanders is already on record here. And remains unchanged.
That said, I can and do appreciate that he has MANY fans. Here as well as outside DU. And I recognize that there were Hillary-haters aplenty among them and still are. And so be it. Live long and prosper, as Mr. Spock would say. I just wont ever be one of them - either against her or for him.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Rashida Tlaib boos Hillary Clinton at Sanders campaign event ...
We can't afford to ignore what Rashida Tlaib booing Hillary ...
I think you are confusing Muslim Women in the House of Representatives.
Percy
(721 posts)But what a blow for a lot of democratic women, especially the ones who carried Hillary. And by another woman to boot.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)His whitewashing of events taking place now are laughable when he posts on his Facebook page. He has voted against EVERYTHING that has been good.
Hagedorn makes up phony excuses as to why he voted against the ARP, reauthorization of the VAWA, HR.1, voted in favor of MTG keeping her Committee assignments, NOT to impeach Trump, and on down the line. This man is a disgrace. Those who comment on his page are die hard Trumpers. His wife. Jennifer Carnahan, is the MNGOP Chair. Inside scoop? You betcha.
Mister Ed
(5,933 posts)..is the same district that sent a good and reasonable man like now-governer Tim Walz to congress.
The Blue Flower
(5,442 posts)How much more broken will be become?
KPN
(15,645 posts)life in the Capitol not be so awkward and stiff shouldered?
My thoughts too. My DH disagrees with me, says healing should begin. I'm just not in a forgiving mood. They spew hatred & lies day after day. They are not there "in good faith" but only to repress minorities and enrich billionaires. I wouldn't even ride in an elevator with any of them either.
"Swalwell: 'The Greatest Enablers Of These Domestic Terrorist Enemies' Are Within Congress."
KPN
(15,645 posts)to foster unity or healing. They refuse to admit any wrongdoing or responsibility in their part while expecting the majority to put the past behind and make concessions. What have they done to demonstrate that anything whatsoever has changed? Why would we entrust democracy to them when theyve given us every reason to distrust their loyalty to our Constitution and democratic system of governance? We would be beyond foolish to do so. I get wanting to make peace, but you dont make peace with an entity that is out to essentially take over as a permanent authoritarian minority at your direct expense.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)...unless you want to put it back to "was still in the KGB" or "was still a kid."
It had been moving towards what it is for decades, but it was launched on the precise trajectory to its current state by the team of Gingrich & Limbaugh. They (and their fellow travelers) were the ones who ensured that GOP voters insisted on a steady diet of fantasy and horseshit. Facts were their "broccoli."
They built that. Putin just cloned a duplicate set of controls.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)For God's sake, they couldn't even bring themselves to vote to acknowledge the Capitol police whose extraordinary efforts saved their asses and enabled the Senate to continue its Constitutional function of certifying the election win for Biden. Now, we won't "get over it."
machoneman
(4,007 posts)Grind those republiscums into dust over the next 4 year period, Bring in the FBI, NSA, CIA, and foreign spy agencies to testify. Subpoena all the R's involved or even suspected of knowing something of the attack. Barr, McCarthy, Carson, DeVos, Turtleman, MTG, Pence and more. Force them to testify and if not, blow it all up in the media as to what they are hiding. Pull in Jr, Stupid, Ivanka and their spouses or girlfriends. Arrest Lara for fraud (dog stuff).
Just beat the hell out of the GOP, their PACS, major givers and keep doing to them what they already did to us. Boycott any and all givers to the MAGA's, the RNC and any GOP organization.
We must destroy these traitors once and for all.
BarbD
(1,193 posts)The Republicans don't want to just "move on", they want to completely take over the government.
tanyev
(42,558 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,431 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)UpInArms
(51,284 posts)Rep. Boebert posted a message on Twitter saying "The Speaker has been removed from the chambers" as a pro-Trump mob breached the U.S. Capitol.
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)And it's not a reassuring one.
Donald Trump broke this country.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Not Trump.
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)Someday Rupert Murdoch will be in the history books like Randolph Hearst, who fomented a foreign war to sell headlines. Except Murdoch is pushing that headline making war on our own soil.
Chellee
(2,097 posts)So, we are foreign soil to him. To be fair, I think he has so much disregard for other human beings that he would set fire to his own neighborhood just to sell the story of it. I don't think it matters to him where he sows chaos, only that he can.
JHB
(37,160 posts)They're the ones who considered compromise to be treachery, and fostered the likes of FOX and Limbaugh.
The next time a "reasonable conservative" NeverTrumper complains about how "their party left them", ask them how this is any different from what they did to the Rockefeller Republicans.
ananda
(28,860 posts)Ever
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)and dismantling protective barriers around the Capitol, but the QAnon imbeciles think today is the 2nd tRump inauguration.
https://mashable.com/article/qanon-march-trump-inauguration-dates-explained/
Its unclear where this date comes from as it doesnt seem to hold any sort of historical significance like March 4 does. The Washingtonian points out that March 20, 1834 was the date the GOP was founded, but that doesnt appear to be relevant to the conspiracy theory.
Could enough QAnon believers have simply created March 20 out of a subconscious amalgamation of Jan. 20 and March 4 after hearing about the two inauguration dates enough times? It seems possible! However, as conspiracy theorists once again look to kick the can down the curb, the March 20 is a specific date a few of them are starting to fall on.
Rebl2
(13,507 posts)keep moving the date to keep their Q peoples interest. Ridiculous.
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)Yet they just make another prediction and their supporters buy it.
I waffle between feeling hope that Bidens straightforward approach and focus on regular people instead of the wealthy, the Q nuts, and the racists will pull us out of this era and fear that the US passed a point of no return with Trump and the broken Republican Party that has jettisoned any principles and is now bent on destroying democracy with any means possible. We no longer have sane Republicans in Congress.
I read an opinion piece this morning by Ruth Marcus (WaPo) in which she predicted potentially dire consequences for getting rid of the filibuster because Republicans will one day be in charge again and there will be nothing to stop them from total annihilation of democratic principles without the filibuster. I somewhat agree with the attitude, but if we dont pass much of Bidens agenda this year. especially the voting protections and the infrastructure plan, Democrats will be shut out of elections for the next decadeboth because of voting restrictions and because Republican obstruction will prevent accomplishing the things that voters want. Then they can crow about a failed administration.
Plus, if the voter protections in H1 are not passed, we can say goodbye to state legislature gains until Republicans so decimate the country that they eventually get voted out. Im not holding my breath for Republicans and right-leaning Independents to wake up to the threat.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)kentuck
(111,095 posts)Very sad.
Beetwasher.
(2,977 posts)We just passed one of the most far reaching progressive pieces of legislation in history. If that's them "winning", I'll take it.
Congress is half filled with traitors for the moment, thus the mood and discomfort. But just wait until some of them are hauled away in cuffs by Garland's DOJ. Thing will start to look brighter.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)They are the Congress. They have to work together, whether they like it or not.
If the Congress cannot meet or communicate, it has been relegated to non-functioning. If there is no Congress, or they have been hindered to a large degree, we have not won.
Just my opinion.
Beetwasher.
(2,977 posts)That's winning, that's what winning looks like. We won, we're winning. Act like it. They're obstruction is desperation and we are rolling right over it. That's winning. They are not winning. At all. They only win if we give up.
ShazzieB
(16,397 posts)LaMouffette
(2,030 posts)their house. The husband wants to paint it red and the wife wants to paint it blue. But instead of compromising on a different color or painting it both colors or painting it one color on the outside and the other color on the inside, they each insist on getting their own way, and the house never does get painted. But then, the wife goes away for the weekend, and the husband paints the house red. The wife is pissed, but bides her time until the husband goes away for a few days, and then she paints the house blue. The husband returns and is pissed. He vows to paint the house red the next time the wife goes away.
All that paint wasted. All that time and hard work wasted. All that money wasted. All the horrible feelings between them. And Congress? Same thing. Every time the other party gets into power, they try to undo everything that has just been done by the other party.
But that kind of both-sides-erism does not apply anymore. AT ALL. Congress has gone from dysfunctional to deadly, and it is ALL Republicans' fault for being willing to lie, cheat, steal, obstruct, and murder to retain (or regain) power.
To go back to the marriage metaphor, now, thanks to Republicans, Congress is like a husband who gets drunk, beats the crap out of his wife, and threatens to kill her, and then the next day, not the least bit remorseful, whines that she should just get over it.
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)...set fire to the house.
"I'd rather have no house if it has to be that color."
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)Frankly, I didn't learn much, but it's good insight to Capital Hill in the wake of the insurrection.
Thanx for posting
NoMoreRepugs
(9,425 posts)To compromise with them or move on would be a catastrophic mistake IMO. Dont give up the investigations until the traitors are exposed and ground into dust. Our Democracy depends on it.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,897 posts)end result of decades of careful pruning of the party by its leaders and patrons. The members who now reside were selected and vetted to be perfect zealot material: They believe the BS they spout not because it is measurable fact but because they have been told so by their leaders. They have been inoculated against reasoned debate and independently verifiable information by years of programming to the view that anything said by a Democrat, or a liberal, or a Federal agency, or a network news source must be a lie or based upon one. They do not think independently because they can't. It is why they were recruited in the first place.
Many of them believe that their duty is to overthrow and demolish from within federal authority that does not conform to their distorted vision of America. They also believe that they are a sort of secret army elected to that purpose. That is not hype nor exaggeration for effect. They really believe that crap and aren't just saying it to please the base. They also believe they are immune from rules of society, law, and the institution they inhabit. They are no less radicalized than the people who broke into the Capitol and beat the police. I cannot imagine sharing an elevator or a lunchroom with them.
Our local county commissioners have gone that way. I used to go to meetings on issues I needed to speak about. It mattered because the record counts and 35 of us responding to a proposal versus 5 of "them" used to have impact. Now they go through the motions of allowing people to speak but it no longer matters if 100 of us showed up or only 2. The hostility they have towards those who dispute their wisdom is palpable. They write down what people say for the record but decisions are made based on private consultation between commissioners, their patrons and special advisors from outfits like ALEC. That became established SOP under Trump. The only thing that slows them down now is a lawsuit and even that seems to have limited effect. They refused to enforce the mask mandate here and went so far as to officially doubt that it was needed. This in the town that hosts the NIH Rocky Mountain Lab.
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)mahina
(17,656 posts)Very informative post
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... the Advent of Gingerich and getting, "businessmen first, statesmen last", elected to Congress via the Contract On America.
CaptainTruth
(6,591 posts)I saw what Republicans did for 4 years, & 74 million people voted for more of it. Then, I saw what they did on January 6. I'm done. I've had it with all 74 million who voted for Traitor Trump. They're all traitors in my mind.
I know several Republicans, many of my neighbors had Trump signs or flags. I used to view them (pre-2016) as basically decent people with different political views. Views that I strongly disagreed with, but our disagreements were based on political points of view, as opposed to, a desire to destroy our democracy & install a fascist ruler. That's not a "point of view," that's declaring war on our country. Now I view them all as enemies of the country that I hold dear. So yes, things are different now. Very different. I now look at a lot of people in a very different way than I did 5 years ago, & I'm not going to "get over" that. They have revealed themselves for who & what they are, & I will view them & treat them accordingly.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)llmart
(15,539 posts)Wasn't there just a slew of Congresspeople from the GOP who filed suit against Biden for an executive order he issued reversing something to do with the pipeline? I'm sketchy on the details right now, but when I read that I thought, "so much for getting along". Lawsuits are their thing.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...not worth reading anyone who carries drop of republican water.
Fact is, republicans have always been this way, especially in the last few decades. That's not what Democrats are dwelling on. They never expected republicans to lift a finger for what's right and good for Americans and the nation.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)Some of them were actually excited about the insurrection and about what will probably come next. The Republican party is no longer the Party of Lincoln, that train left long ago. It is the Party of Trump and the wanting of a dictatorship... to rule over the people. and we are supposed to love that? Hell no... we won't stand for it. This is a Democracy and it we need to protect it.
Azathoth
(4,608 posts)This is like referring to Joe Biden as "One newly elected executive told us"
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)in every legal way possible. Democrats didn't make this fight. The GQP did.
bipartisanship. Don't capitulate to the haters of American democracy.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)But it is well past time for Dems to stop getting over it. It is well past time for GOP to start being held accountable for their actions.
The GOP killed half a million+ Americans and attempted a coup just a couple months ago. There is no getting over this. Accountability for the people responsible is how this get put behind us.
Escurumbele
(3,392 posts)It is that simple.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)How to forget an attempted coup, however half-baked and doomed to fail, when ELECTED OFFICIALS won't even call it like it is, let alone denounce it? There are some they see virtually every day who supported it openly, at least as openly as these devious bastards ever get.
However bizarre this seems, it reminds me of Keith Moon. At a party, he was so drunk and obnoxious that he was asked to leave. And how might one take their leave gracefully under those circumstances? Punch your host's girlfriend in the stomach and set fire to his furniture. How long do you think it was before he was invited back?
The GOP are like Keith Moon, except without any of the clowning and occasional humour. Worst. Guests. Ever.
And you know what else? Democrats WON. They are under no obligation to knuckle under.
Martin68
(22,801 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,311 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)have a role in this attitude among Republicans and much of the press that this recent violent insurrection should not be harshly judged?
Dan
(3,562 posts)A Clear and Present danger to the United States, and he was, has been and continues to be -
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Aussie105
(5,397 posts)We exercise the right to do whatever, and don't give us any grief over it afterwards!
Such a small insurrection, anyway, it didn't work, not too many dead, not like a real one, so why the fuss?
/sarcasm
Democratic people of the USA - never forget, never forgive!
And never trust!
Make it a National Day of Mourning, with TV stations playing the violent tapes over and over, with aftermath perpwalks included.
Somber looking newsreaders in black starting a leading news item with 'This in the anniversary of one of the darkest days in US history.'
Let the law hit them and their attitude over the head with a very heavy law book!
And educate the masses this was the Day Democracy cold have died.
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orangecrush
(19,555 posts)Not as long as there are still seditionists in congress who helped make it happen.
SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)There are Republican Senators and House Representatives who aided and abetted the violent insurrectionists and who voted to overturn a valid election. They should be in jail. At a minimum they should be out of office, having violated their oath of office.