America's Right-Wing Patriots Are Fawning Over the British Monarchy to Own the Libs

[RandySF]

’m not American. I’m still learning things about this great country. That America fought a big war of independence, however, is not one of them. It’s in the immigrant starter-pack. America cancelled the monarchy long ago, in the pre-Twitter national dawn of 1776, from which much pride, and a whole day off work, is derived.

So it was puzzling to learn that the great defenders of American patriotism are feeling queasy these days about the long-term survival of the poor sods helming the same monarchy that was once defeated in such glorious battle.

What did it take for this historical tide to turn in the favor of the tyrants, the oppressors of liberty? A single accusation of racism by a woman of color.

If you’re finding yourself with nothing to do next Thursday, be sure to tune into a virtual event hosted by the Heritage Foundation, the policy think tank, with the hyperventilating title, “The Crown Under Fire: Why the Left’s Campaign to Cancel the Monarchy and Undermine a Cornerstone of Western Democracy Will Fail.” The event promises to explain how “the American radical left has seized upon the claims from Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, that the Royal Family created a hostile, racist environment for the couple” to launch an attack on the British monarchy, and in turn, the very ideals of Western Civilization itself. Will they stop at nothing?!




https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wire/2021/03/right-wing-heritage-foundation-monarchy-meghan-harry-racism/

[Iliyah]

1. Oh gosh .. ...

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. While I haven't conducted any real research on this topic,

I somehow suspect that Americans like or dislike the British Monarchy irrespective of their political beliefs.

I find them reasonably interesting and have read many, many biographies of Kings, Queens, and other assorted royals over the years. Which is actually why I had to stop watching The Crown. Too many serious inaccuracies.

I mean, in a way liking or disliking the British Monarchy is right up there with whether or not you follow any particular sport. Has little to do with your politics.

[Lunabell]

3. Yeah, we fought a whole war over this.

Like the Civil War, America won.

[Initech]

18. Two if you count the War Of 1812!

[LakeArenal]

4. All Americans enjoy the monarchy. Especially the scandals.

Republicans are treasonous. So any country that has royalty or dictators are appealing to the right.

It’s not all that confusing.

[Funtatlaguy]

6. I don't. I think it is a silly waste of money. Yes, I said silly.

[LakeArenal]

7. That's fine. Some of us like to see it all.

Like a cartoon.

I really loved Di. I cried all day the day after her death.

Also I find the history very fascinating.

[GoCubsGo]

5. Well, 250 years ago, they would have been Loyalists.

So, it's not surprising they're infatuated with Monarchy now. This "Lib" doesn't give two shits either way about Royal Family. I don't understand the fascination many Americans have with them.

[LakeArenal]

9. Really not snarky but some don't understand the fascination with baseball.

I love baseball. I even like the Cubs.

[Biophilic]

8. Damn, seems like all you can do with the RW is shake your head and walk away, just

don't turn your back completely. Once, a long, long time ago I knew someone who was involved with the Heritage Foundation so I assumed that they were a conservative group who I might no agree with, but they weren't buck crazy. Time seem to have changed things. Now they obviously ARE buck crazy. With all the actual problems we have in this country they want to focus on this piece of fluff? Obviously if we let them be in charge all the rest of us are all out of luck.

[LakeArenal]

10. The right's fear is they will never have power again.

That’s why they hate Democracy.

[Biophilic]

12. Well if they think this whole thing with the royals is important enough for them to address

they probably shouldn't have power ever again. WTF, this is a high power, high prestige group who are spending time and money focusing on this crap. No, they should definitely never be allowed to be in power again. Obviously their values and priorities are way off, not to mention just a little bit crazy (literally).

[LakeArenal]

13. Sounds about right. They don't want to focus on Biden's success.

[Biophilic]

15. Now, unfortunately, that sounds right and makes some sense, but still not a lot.

This is all they've got? Good grief these people are suppose to be smart.

[LakeArenal]

16. Have not used intelligence since Reagan.

[Biophilic]

19. Hee Hee agree, but I hate that. We need everyone we can to make things right and move forward

both as a nation and as a species. Too many problems to have half the problem solvers idiots.

[mwooldri]

11. The British monarchy will survive.

The real power is in Number 10, not Buck House. There is no big popular movement to make the UK a Republic. It was tried once in England and it didn't end well.

The Heritage Foundation's virtual event is a) a waste of time, bandwidth, and speech.. and b) based on a flawed understanding of the British monarchy. The left can't cancel the monarchy. As long as Elizabeth and her successors act in the way that Elizabeth acts now in running The Firm the majority of the UK population will continue to accept the Crown. Yes I know there is a Republican movement in the UK but it really is in the minority.

The concept of the Crown solves some problems that are inherently problematic with a Republic because the government and civil service are loyal to an apolitical body called the "Crown" that's led by an apolitical king or queen which has no true political power. A lot of Republics have people who are loyal to a president - who is political and wields actual power. One could argue that the UK is a Republic except that instead of an elected president that the UK has an unelected head of state but essentially the UK works like any other Republic.

One also has to think that Canada, Australia and New Zealand could have gotten rid of the UK monarchy as being their head of state ages ago... but to this day Elizabeth is still their head of state. I wouldn't be surprised to see in the future that Canada, Australia and New Zealand do become Republics in the end but the Republican mechanisms that replace the Crown will be modeled after the Crown and have a President who would wield little to no power.

[DBoon]

14. Conservatism is inherently anti-democratic

Its roots lie in 18th century defense of monarchy, clergy, and the aristocracy.

This intellectual current underlies conservatism to this day.

[Initech]

17. Earth to the Heritage Foundation - we did cancel the British monarchy!

Go on Wikipedia and look up "Revolutionary War". You'll be shocked at what happened.

[East-A-Squared]

20. Reich wingers always have a King George III mindset.

[struggle4progress]

21. The people of England attacked their monarchy long before 1776

There was, for example, that little matter of King Charles I, whose life ended abruptly on the scaffold at Whitehall in 1649 for his attempt "to overthrow the rights and liberties of the people"

That left England kingless until the 1660 Restoration: establishing the supremacy of Parliament continued in later stages

The concern, which rightwing US mouthpieces now show for the prerogatives of the UK monarchs, might be more touching, if it did not so glaringly overlook several facts:

first, that the Puritans (so beloved by our rightwing mouthpieces) were Parliamentarians rather than Royalists; and

second, that many royal prerogatives have been extinguished by consent and disuse: for example, no monarch has vetoed an act of Parliament since Queen Anne in 1708, over three centuries ago