Confessions of a former naturopath:

[tblue37]

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[TeslaNova]

1. Hard to trust modern medicine

When its fueled by greed and profit. I think it's why a lot of people look for alternatives.

[Lunabell]

3. The ceo's may be greedy

But the scientists and lab workers are not. They have a genuine interest in their work.

[TeslaNova]

4. Agreed

But they are not the ones making the ultimate decisions. As much money being made by pharmaceuticals there is zero incentive to change or cure anything.

[NoRethugFriends]

11. Nope. Just not true.

[jmbar2]

5. Except that it's not

This broad generalization is used to promote a lot of nutty pseudo science. Like the charlatans aren't motivated by greed?

As for-profit industries, healthcare and pharma can be pretty exploitive of their captive markets. That's true with all monopolies, which is why regulation is so important.

But the medical and scientific research folks that I have known (quite a few) are totally focused on relieving human suffering, and discovering new things.

Sure, they want to make a good living doing it - wouldn't we all want to do good for society, and be paid well to do so? There is no big financial reward if they find a cure. They do it for the intrinsic challenge.

[ShazzieB]

7. I agree with you, jmbar2.

Can't think of a thing to add. Just wanted to say that I agree!

[TeslaNova]

9. Do you actually believe

If a researcher at a pharmaceutical discovered a cure for diabetes (and most likely they have) the company would do the right thing? It's all about money like it or not. Don't you ever wonder why NO disease has ever been cured? I'm not promoting alternative medicine, I'm just saying to think pharmaceuticals (which fund everything from medical schools to all research) care about the well being of people is pretty naïve.

[NoRethugFriends]

12. Right . All the cures for diabetes have been hidden by a huge conspiracy.

They have not been lost however. They are stored on the set in Hoboken where the moon landing was faked.

[LanternWaste]

15. You make a lot of assertions, yet fail to provide objective evidence supporting any of them.

It's pretty naïve to argue with nothing more than bumper stickers on your side.

[Yavin4]

17. Industry researchers discovered that cigarettes caused cancer and heart attacks.

And that research got out. Exxon researchers learned about the effects of climate change, and that got out.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. My Company Rewarded Me

The stock I got for one development was sold 2 months before I retired for $1.008 million.
I have little doubt pharma companies do the same.
And, as to no diseases being cured; know anybody who's died of polio, smallpox, malaria, yellow fever, or whooping cough?
Yeah, me neither!
Skepticism is healthy. Cynicism is not.

[TeslaNova]

21. Vaccines are not cures

And when did those come out again? Good argument.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. Silliness

Eradication of a disease is eradication.
Your caught on your own hook, and now you're pretending you're a fish.

[Aristus]

22. I'm not sure quite where you got the idea that no disease has ever been cured.

We cure diseases all the time. A urinary tract infection has a cure. Syphilis has a cure. Hepatitis C, once considered a chronic disease, now has a cure. Yeah, the pharmaceutical companies made a lot of money from the medication used to treat Hep C. But the cost of treatment went from crippling to affordable in less than ten years. And even at its most expensive, the oral medication treatment came in much less costly than treating a patient for liver cancer.

[myccrider]

24. I believe that the majority of the researchers of different diseases are dedicated...

to relieving symptoms and/or curing those diseases. Not all of those researchers work for Big Pharma, many work at universities and teaching hospitals. By and large people don’t spend the time and money getting advanced science degrees because they’re primarily motivated by cheating patients to make extra money. Are some corrupted? Sure. I don’t think the majority are, though.

If a researcher found a cure for diabetes, other researchers (because it’s really difficult to keep such things completely secret-researchers publish papers on research and most collaborate and compete at the same time with other scientists. Their reputations depend on this), and other pharmaceutical companies and universities and gov research institutions, would be aware, to some extent, of the research. That means someone else would beat them to the cure and they would make the money for the discovery. If a company squelched a breakthrough, their scientists might just jump ship, set up their own company and make the breakthrough and get rich off of it. Squelching might work for a while, but over the long run, the discovery will become known.

Many diseases can’t be cured by a pill, so pharmaceutical companies wouldn’t be involved in that research. They will require new technologies that work on reworking cellular/genetic machinery, which is very, very complicated. Here’s some recent research that may hold promise of such a cure for Type I diabetes.

https://www.drwf.org.uk/news-and-events/news/researchers-discover-potential-cure-type-1-diabetes-using-new-method-creating

I’m not saying the current system isn’t a mess and these companies don’t need to be more tightly regulated and have their power reduced but they can only keep a lid on scientific advances for so long. Can you imagine what a PR, and maybe legal, nightmare it would be if people found out these companies could have eradicated Alzheimers or lung cancer or heart disease but buried the cure (a real cure, not just a promising line of research) because they profited more from hiding it? They’d probably get their a$$es sued off by the families of the deceased.

[Lunabell]

2. Yep. Science.

I used to be a naturopath, holistic practitioner and a theist (pagan) until I started taking a look at it all too. I'll take science over that malarkey now.

[Klaralven]

6. You've become an anti-malarkist?

Seems like everyone has to be anti something these days.

Anti-malarkist is probably as good as any...

[Lunabell]

10. Lol, I guess that's my new stance.

I'm anti fascist too!

[rainy]

8. I went to one. She was your worst nightmare!

Horrible and I’ll never see one again!

[eallen]

13. Teaching is a great way to learn

Good for her.

[IcyPeas]

14. "it was a bunch of stuff that sounded scientific to an uneducated mind"

better late than never.

[DenaliDemocrat]

16. You mean water DOESN'T have a memory?

Next thing you know you are going to tell me chiropractors can’t cure asthma!

[ProfessorGAC]

20. It Must Have A Memory!

It always remembers to be wet! It remembers to freeze when it's cold & boil when it gets really hot!
So, there!

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

18. I am sure there is a cure for AIDS also.

The person/people who discovered it are probably lying somewhere at the bottom of the ocean.