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thomhartmann

(3,994 posts)
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:14 PM Mar 2021

It takes a month in Georgia to register to vote, but you can buy a gun for mass murder in 10 minutes

How Institutional Racism & Gun Culture Have Poisoned America

The Massage Parlor murders in Georgia remind us that guns, the South, and racially motivated murders have a long history.

As I lay out in detail in my book The Hidden History of Guns and the Second Amendment, the Second Amendment was written the way it was, at the time it was, to guarantee that Virginia, South Carolina and Georgia could maintain their state-based militias, which they explicitly referred to as “Slave Patrols.”

Those Slave Patrols were used for hundreds of years by white people to keep African-Americans under their thumbs, and, after the failure of Reconstruction in the election of 1876, the Klan used guns as readily as they did nooses to terrorize Black people in the South.

Thus it should be no surprise that when a 21-year-old white man in Georgia decided he wanted to murder Asian women, he would stop at a gun shop and walk out minutes later with a 9 mm handgun.

That purchase happened just a few hours before he opened fire. Now Soon Chung Park, Hyun Jung Grant, Suncha Kim, Yong Ae Yue, Delaina Ashley Yaun, Xiaojie Tan, Daoyou Feng are dead, along with Paul Andre Michels and Elcias R. Hernandez-Ortiz.

I used to live in Georgia, and attended the Georgia Police Academy for a book I was writing the year the Olympics were in Atlanta. When you buy a gun in that state, there are no background checks and no questions asked: all you need is a state-issued ID and either cash or a credit card.

There’s also no waiting period. Thirteen states and Washington DC have waiting periods that run from as little as 3 to as many as 14 days between the time you show up in the store and lay down your ID and money, and the time you can pick up your gun and take it home.

Research published by the National Academy of Sciences found that these waiting periods have a substantial impact on reducing murders committed with guns, averaging around a 17% reduction in gun homicides “avoiding roughly 750 gun homicides per year.”

Instead, as was noted in The Wall Street Journal, “The U.S. represents less than 5% of the 7.3 billion global population but accounted for 31% of global mass shooters during the period from 1966 to 2012, more than any other country…”

America is the only developed nation in the entire world where this sort of thing happens on a daily basis. As the research just mentioned notes: “If the United States could lower its firearm death rate to that of Finland (the high-income country with the second highest rate [in the world]), roughly 20,000 fewer people would die from guns every year.”

But that isn’t happening here because racism and “gun culture“ have both evolved in this country into what are essentially intertwined industries.

Both have their own substantial base of mostly white men, and both racists and gun enthusiasts have numerous and frequently interconnected support groups, secret Facebook groups, and politicians who openly take their side. Both are also profitable for those who trade in them.

Like racial hatred and religion appear to have poisoned this alleged murderer, institutional racism and gun culture have poisoned America itself.

The two combined are so potent that even after mass shootings of children in schools or people attending outdoor concerts, the racist/gun partisans in the US House and Senate prevent any sort of motion toward rational gun control in this country.

It takes a month in Georgia to register to vote, but you can buy a gun in 10 minutes, walk out of the store, and kill somebody as quick as you’d like.

Seriously. The Georgia website for voter registration says, “Please allow the county at least 3 to 4 weeks before contacting your county“ to confirm your voter registration. They have to check you out, after all. This is important stuff, this voting.

But to get a gun that you can use for mass murder? No problem. Just lay down your money and walk away with your weapon.

The reason? Racism.

It’s no coincidence that the laxest gun laws and the most restrictive voting regulations in our country are almost entirely centered in states that were part of the old slave-holding Confederacy.

America has a gun problem and a democracy problem, and both are rooted in white supremacy and racism. Racism keeps guns in people’s hands and homes, and guns are continually used as racist tools of terror.

If we’re to move forward, we must address both.

Original post with hotlinks to sources is here: https://hartmannreport.com/p/how-institutional-racism-and-gun
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It takes a month in Georgia to register to vote, but you can buy a gun for mass murder in 10 minutes (Original Post) thomhartmann Mar 2021 OP
K&R, it should be easier to vote than to buy a gun everywhere uponit7771 Mar 2021 #1
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #2
The timeline for an abortion is also a bit longer than a gun purchase! rgbecker Mar 2021 #4
Well said, Mr. Hartmann! Talitha Mar 2021 #3
Amen judesedit Mar 2021 #5
k; r CatWoman Mar 2021 #6
So, I hate to disagree with the author, but this directly conflicts with my experience here in GA. Calista241 Mar 2021 #7
Right. Straw Man Mar 2021 #16
Kick dalton99a Mar 2021 #8
damn it, and you can only vote once per election and buy as many guns as you can afford. SYFROYH Mar 2021 #9
we have some extremely warped priorities in USA Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #10
Maybe gun laws should be connected to voting laws. Require the same amount of proof to vote as to joetheman Mar 2021 #11
Excellent, clear synopsis Wild blueberry Mar 2021 #12
Slam dunk, Collimator Mar 2021 #13
It's an indicator for priorities. ffr Mar 2021 #14
So depressing. K&R for visibility. crickets Mar 2021 #15
k&r Demovictory9 Mar 2021 #17
these are the gop priorities samsingh Mar 2021 #18

Calista241

(5,633 posts)
7. So, I hate to disagree with the author, but this directly conflicts with my experience here in GA.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:45 AM
Mar 2021

My girlfriend moved here in January, and registering to vote and get her driver's license was one of her first 'to-do' items. She did both in about 30 minutes at the North Fulton Annex, and most of that was spent waiting in line. The actual process itself took 10ish minutes. They literally asked her "Did you want to register to vote while we get your Driver's License?"

In addition, some members of my family own guns. They buy their guns from a gun store, and they have always had to go through background checks. They filled out the form, ran it through the electronic process, and completed their purchase. It took around 45 minutes.

I asked them about it, and their comment was they didn't want to buy a 'used' gun. They didn't know what the gun had been used for previously, and they wanted a clear understanding of why a gun was being sold (did it not work?, was it used in a crime?, was it properly maintained before it came into their care?). Finally, they didn't want to put themselves in a parking lot somewhere with an unknown person, a significant amount of cash, and firearms.

I think someone comparing today's experiences with what happened to them in 1995 or 1996 is a big time logical fallacy. The internet barely existed in 1995, background checks for instance involved sending a fax to someone in DC, and waiting for a fax back.

Other than that, I can get behind the author's overall premise. I just think facts need to be accurate to make a legit point. Otherwise the discussion becomes about incorrect facts rather than the substance of your opinions.

Straw Man

(6,934 posts)
16. Right.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 10:23 PM
Mar 2021

The NICS system for mandatory federal background checks became operational in 1993. The Atlanta Olympics were held in 1996. Hartmann may be thinking of private sales between Georgia residents, which didn't require anything, not even an ID, but the seller was still technically guilty of a felony if he/she knowingly sold a firearm to a felon or other "prohibited person." Of course, the weasel word there is "knowingly."

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