Plummeting sperm counts, shrinking penises: toxic chemicals threaten humanity

[CousinIT]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/18/toxic-chemicals-health-humanity-erin-brokovich?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

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The chemicals to blame for this crisis are found in everything from plastic containers and food wrapping, to waterproof clothes and fragrances in cleaning products, to soaps and shampoos, to electronics and carpeting. Some of them, called PFAS, are known as “forever chemicals”, because they don’t breakdown in the environment or the human body. They just accumulate and accumulate – doing more and more damage, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. Now, it seems, humanity is reaching a breaking point.

Swan’s book is staggering in its findings. “In some parts of the world, the average twentysomething woman today is less fertile than her grandmother was at 35,” Swan writes. In addition to that, Swan finds that, on average, a man today will have half of the sperm his grandfather had. “The current state of reproductive affairs can’t continue much longer without threatening human survival,” writes Swan, adding: “It’s a global existential crisis.” That’s not hyperbole. That’s just science.

As if this wasn’t terrifying enough, Swan’s research finds that these chemicals aren’t just dramatically reducing semen quality, they are also shrinking penis size and volume of the testes. This is nothing short of a full-scale emergency for humanity.

Swan’s book echoes previous research, which has found that PFAS harms sperm production, disrupts the male hormone and is correlated to a “reduction of semen quality, testicular volume and penile length”. These chemicals are literally confusing our bodies, making them send mix messages and go haywire.

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[Jirel]

1. Good.

We need to drop our population worldwide by 50%, starting with the richest, most industrialized countries.

[PortTack]

3. Beat me to it!! It would be the best way for the planet to recover from the mess we've made

[Calista241]

18. While I agree with dropping our population by 50% is a good idea,

It shouldn't come from industrialized countries. They have the most productive, most educated, and most environmentally conscious people out there, in addition to having much lower birth rates.

Here in the US, we have 1.7 births per woman. Much of Africa has over 5 kids per woman.

[Jirel]

63. That's the racist argument. It doesn't work.

Industrialized nations are causing the pollution and the excess consumption, not most African nations. Industrialized nations are demanding more and more fuels and land for expanding idiocy like golf courses and suburban gated communities. Industrialized countries are responsible for sucking our seas dry, and heating up the atmosphere.

It’s not about who has the most kids (many of whom die young). It’s about who is causing the destruction, and grabbing more than their fair share. They have the responsibility first, to stop overpopulating the planet. 1.7 births per woman is too many when each of those 1.7 births grabs an outsized portion of the earth’s resources.

[Happy Hoosier]

35. You won't like how that plays out economically.

A large ageing population and small working population means trouble for things like SSI.

[HelpImSurrounded]

52. And there it is - the capitalist pyramid must grow

Perpetual population growth is good for only one thing - capitalism.

Economists need to get their heads out of their asses and figure out a better way. See e.g. ecological economics.

[Kaleva]

38. How do you plan to halt the reduction of the population at 50% of current levels?

[HelpImSurrounded]

53. Why bother?

We can lose 87% of the population and be just fine.

[TheBlackAdder]

42. Fatty livers from carb-based diets promote estrogen in males, low sperm count, loss of hair, weight

[discocrisco01]

44. And according to Alex Jones making the frogs gay

[theneworiginal]

57. There is that issue of economic collapse, tho, when retirees can't get supported by the workforce.

Japan has hired a Minister of Fucking, so to speak, to encourage younger people to have more sex for this reason.

Teflon is one of those forever chemicals... we've all been exposed.

[Jirel]

64. This is not, and never will be, a valid argument.

It is a lazy economic pyramid scheme that requires perpetual growth. We are already overpopulated on planet earth, so the lazy pyramid scheme is already collapsing. We get past this nonsense by calling out the falsehood that the economic model can be sustained, and create new models of caring for our elders that do not require science-denial at the core.

Earth is a closed system, full stop. Until we develop both the means and the wisdom to colonize other worlds, this model is as flawed as drawing a new hurricane track on a map in black sharpie to address emergency management needs.

[lagomorph777]

65. Yup. Gaia has ways of dealing with threats like us.

[PatSeg]

72. That was my initial reaction as well

Too many humans on the planet as it is and we are recklessly consuming everything in our path. We are poisoning ourselves often because of greed and should have expected consequences. When it comes to human reproduction, less is probably more from a long range point of view.

So many scifi books and movies from the past century are coming to true.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

2. If it happening to us, it's probably happening to all mammals and possibly others ...

So on the account of our fellow creatures, I'm very troubled by this news.

I would add, however, that if 1/2 the sperm means 1/2 the people, that's EXACTLY what 'human survival' depends on.

[Coventina]

20. Fancy meeting you here!

Agree about the concern for other species.

Rejoicing about the reduction of humans.

[2naSalit]

4. Reduction in human population...

Is not a threat to the biosphere. It would be a benefit if anything.

[doubleplusgood]

5. +1000 nt

[Irish_Dem]

13. The planet and non-humans would be much better off without humans.

[2naSalit]

28. Well...

My creative speculation about that is that perhaps humans are actually extraterrestrials who came here to destroy the planet and the way we fooled all other life forms in the biosphere is that we came here as energy without physical form and borrowed DNA from what was already here to create a physical form. Probably why we're so poorly engineered for survival. And look, we're almost at mission accomplished!

Just sayin' and all that.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Dovetails with my theory that humans are really Ferengis in human form.

And they destroy everything within reach for their corrupt and greedy goals.

[2naSalit]

33. I think...

We're on the same wavelength there, careful who you tell about it!

[Irish_Dem]

41. Yes they might come after us.

LOL, one group or another.

[2naSalit]

43. That's what I'm afraid of!

[Irish_Dem]

60. Don't worry, we can just take a shuttle craft out of here.

I don't trust that darn transporter.

[lindysalsagal]

59. Ferengi Rules of Acquisition: She can touch your lobes, nut never your latinum.

http://www.sjtrek.com/trek/rules/

1. Once you have their money, never give it back.

[Irish_Dem]

61. OMG. I never saw these rules. Describes capitalism to a T.

And the oligarchs.

Ha, she can touch your lobes, but not your money.

Thanks for posting!

[Kaleva]

36. Not really. Mother nature is hell bent on ensuring the extinction of all species.

Even if humans never existed, all living things on this planet will die out or be exterminated in due course.

Oddly enough, it is humans that afford all other species that chance of escaping this fate.

[Lancero]

50. And at the same time, it is humans that have rapidly accelerated the process towards that fate.

We could be the salvation sure, but right now? We're the problem.

[Kaleva]

55. In the grand scheme of things, the time frame you are talking about is almost non-existent

The solar system is about 4.5 billion years.

"For mammals, the average species exists for 1 million to 2 million years."

https://world-news-monitor.com/environment/2020/11/08/how-long-do-most-species-last-before-going-extinct/

Shortening the average lifespan of a species by 50% or even greater is but a blip on the time scale of the solar system.

[electric_blue68]

68. Oh, don't be such a misanthrope...

[malaise]

6. Do you think Mother Nature wants us gawn

I sure wouldn't blame her although I think it's suicide,

[bdamomma]

21. The environment

and animals were quite happy during the world lockdown during the earlier days of the pandemic when we humans were gone from the picture. Water and air was much cleaner.

[malaise]

25. LOL

By the way we use gawn for gone (in cricket - when a wicket falls)

[2naSalit]

29. I like it!

[bdamomma]

32. you're

funny malaise,

instead of "thief" you hear "teif" you know what I mean!! The Jamaican slang!!

[bullimiami]

23. no. the earth doesnt care. amazing biosphere, sterile desert, toxic wasteland. all the same

to planet earth. it will just go on and on.

sad for us.

[Kaleva]

37. Mother Nature wants everything gone.

Life is an anomaly.

[hedda_foil]

7. Well if shrinking penises don't get men to stop the chemical madness, nothing will!

[PortTack]

30. Nailed it!

[Blue_true]

45. I am not too sure about that.

It isn’t like a guy just shrinks. What likely happened is boys are smaller in the next generation. But who is measuring and recording penis size? I honestly have never had a Doctor say to me, “whip it out guy, I need to measure you up and record it”.

So, it is likely one of those things that we will never know is happening until it is too late.

[hedda_foil]

47. Men are VERY suggestible in that respect.

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[Blue_true]

49. I believe that it is a problem that any attempt to understand it

better will meet resistance. Men that are decently endowed likely won’t have a problem being measured, but men that aren’t may have such an issue.

I am one of those that don’t see fewer children being born as a problem, as long as parents are not trying to chose one sex predominantly, as happened in China when that country tried a one child per couple policy.

[msfiddlestix]

8. While I bemoan forever toxins, I am not so concerned about the threat to the existence of Humanity

I worry about the threat of our democracy. I worry about "man's inhumanity to man".

I can care less about less sperm count. Don't know if the research suggests it, but maybe and with any luck, the threat of the disappearance of humanity will first be the disappearance of the Neanderthal species.

[roamer65]

9. Hmmm...population reduction?

[secondwind]

10. Sometimes I think that being 74 is not such a bad thing

[rzemanfl]

15. Gee, I hafta wait until August. n/t

[Klaralven]

11. Gaia strikes back

[Irish_Dem]

12. Also causing increased neurological disorders in the young and older populations.

Very evident to psych professionals.

[multigraincracker]

14. If you are a male, do not eat soy products.

Does the same thing.

[VGNonly]

22. Soy bad...?

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[Piasladic]

24. I don't know

Hubby has been eating soy for years and is fitter and hornier than ever. Maybe it's different for others.

[madinmaryland]

27. I don't eat soylent green. It's, you know, people!

[Dr. Strange]

71. Nice post, Charlton Heston.

[electric_blue68]

69. Uhhh, Asians have been eating soy based products...

for hundreds, and hundreds of years maybe more.

[MineralMan]

16. Do those chemicals only affect males?

From your quoted material, you'd think so, eh?

[FreeState]

17. The science on this is not clear

The actual peer reviewed studies don’t show what the author is claiming in her opinion.

https://www.intechopen.com/books/male-reproductive-health/the-role-of-endocrine-disrupting-chemicals-in-male-fertility-decline

The results yielded in this chapter showed that both environmental and occupational exposures to EDCs affect male reproductive function at multiple levels. In human populations, the majority of studies point toward an association between exposure to EDCs and male reproduction system disorders, such as infertility, testicular cancer, poor sperm quality and/or function. Exposure to EDCs was associated with declined semen quality, increased sperm DNA damage, alterations in testis morphology and endocrine function. However, there are studies exploring the effect of EDCs on male reproductive health including semen quality, reproductive hormones and male fertility that produced inconsistent results probably due to small-sized study populations and lack of control for potential confounding variables. These contrary results highlight the need to discuss and investigate the effect of environmental pollutants in the male reproductive health. Moreover, the identification of the sequence of events and mechanisms might be important to better understand the effect of exposure to EDCs on male reproductive system and their contribution to male fertility decline.

[pansypoo53219]

34. the milw journal had a series years ago about plastic contains feminine hormone mimics in it.

leading to man boobs etc.

[Act_of_Reparation]

62. The Milwaukee Journal is not a peer reviewed scientific journal.

Seems odd I have to state that, but here we both are.

[pansypoo53219]

67. the article probably had research. peer reviewed too.

was a specific plastic i think. plastic bad period.

[Goodheart]

19. I'm skeptical of this report.

I recall the same thing asserted fifty years ago, then refuted, then reasserted, then re-refuted, and on and on.

In either case, I see that as a good thing. As science prolongs human life expectancy there will be lesser reason for reproduction.

[FreepFryer]

26. Tell that to my boyfriend. (nt)

[lame54]

39. I was in the pool

[keithbvadu2]

40. Expecting a book/movie about a male version of The Handmaid's Tale.

Expecting a book/movie about a male version of The Handmaid's Tale.

The codpiece will come back in fashion.

[IcyPeas]

73. this is exactly what I was thinking.... it's the whole premise of The Handmaid's Tale

[StocktonNative]

46. I dont know...but mine is from 4" to 3"..

and thats from the ground. 😅

[Blue_true]

51. I guess we can expect to see you racing for the Triple Crown soon. nt

[GoneOffShore]

58. So your nickname is 'Tripod'?

[greenjar_01]

48. I kinda love how everyone is pretending that this isn't deeply stupid

Rock on, y'all.

[Crunchy Frog]

54. No I'm sorry, I don't find it terrifying.

Our current population size is not sustainable. A dramatic drop off in reproduction would be better than alternative ways in which human population could drop precipitously.

When our population is much smaller, we'll also probably be dumping much fewer toxic chemicals into the environment.

[Silent3]

56. "...a man today will have half of the sperm his grandfather had"

Personally, I think it's weird to keep any of your grandfather's sperm, no matter how much that crazy old guy saved in jars to pass on to you.

[smirkymonkey]

70. *snort*

[Hotler]

66. 1/2 cocked? nt

[Nexus2]

74. Does anyone have any thoughts about V.H.E.M.T.?

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