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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLarry Summers says the US is seeing 'least responsible' macroeconomic policy in 40 years
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/larry-summers-who-called-out-inflation-fears-with-bidens-dollar19-trillion-covid-19-relief-package-says-the-us-is-seeing-least-responsible-macroeconomic-policy-in-40-years/ar-BB1eOwTR?li=BBnb7KzYeah we're helping people out who need it instead of the fat cats. Go fuck yourself Summers.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...but would also note that Summers was a prominent voice in both the Clinton and Obama administrations, so this is a call coming from inside the house.
Wounded Bear
(58,758 posts)being the author of a lot of our current problems.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)... just like right-wingers who are mostly concerned about protecting people with established wealth. (They obviously want their wealth to always have the same value tomorrow as it does today.)
He might be different than right-wingers in several ways, but any policy that helps protect established wealth more than offering greater opportunities to the poor -- which can include SURVIVAL -- has always been bothersome to me.
joetheman
(1,450 posts)Just don't allow corporations and businesses with already obscene profit continue to raise prices. Slap on a windfall profits tax
And consumers refuse to buy price gouged items.
The supply and demand BS is not on the table right now. There should be more supply and less demand since the pandemic.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)The Magistrate
(95,264 posts)Summers has taken over Mr. Kristol's old mantle as the public commentator who is always, always wrong.
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Beakybird
(3,334 posts)Only time will tell if he's right or wrong.
I agree that many economists could care less if people are dying of poverty as long as the markets are solid.
Lawrence Henry Summers (born November 30, 1954) is an American economist, former Vice President of Development Economics and Chief Economist of the World Bank (199193),[1][2][3] senior U.S. Treasury Department official throughout President Clinton's administration (ultimately Treasury Secretary, 19992001),[2][3][4] and former director of the National Economic Council for President Obama (20092010).[2][3] He is a former president of Harvard University (20012006),[3][5] where he is currently (as of March 2017) a professor and director of the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Business and Government at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.[3][6][7]
Happy Hoosier
(7,451 posts)The bottom 80% of America, with only brief respites with Clinton and Obama. Time for people-centered economics.
Ritabert
(672 posts)Waste of space.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)It's how we got to the point where a right-wing billionaire could credibly frame himself as a "supporter of the common people" and us as "defenders of the elites."
spanone
(135,917 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)as necessary.
Thats not an unreasonable fear for an economist. And if you ever lived through significantly increasing inflation, it aint pretty for poor and people on fixed income. Also respect the idea to go big on stimulus to avoid a downturn. These are not unreasonable opinions.
Crux of what Clinton and Obamas economic adviser said: While Summers praised the COVID-19 package's "ambition" and its "rejection of austerity orthodoxy," he stated that garnering legislative support for tax increases or spending reductions could prove to be difficult and might pose a "risk of inflation expectations rising sharply."
madville
(7,413 posts)Real estate, reliable equities that consistently pay dividends, precious metals, maybe even cryptocurrency, etc.
Revenue will have to increase or the currency will have to be greatly devalued to pay for the increased spending, pick your poison, none of it will be fun.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)And, the government will have a hard time bailing them out.
Sad fact is, we need lots of wealthy people to tax to pay for education, child care, bolstering Social Security, jobs, infrastructure, healthcare, debt reduction, etc. We can/should cut military, but thats a drop in the bucket and provides some of our best paying jobs.
Fortunately, Biden gets this, but will have a hard time addressing it without ticking off a lot of Democrats. Would still rather have a Democrat trying to navigate through this.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... paid to CEOs taxed on par with regular income.
So am I
The rich will fight tooth and nail to not be taxes at a progressive proportion and the kGQP messaging / feedback machine is going to protect them at all cost.
Cha
(297,910 posts)COL Mustard
(5,940 posts)If youve read the article!
roamer65
(36,747 posts)You cant have rampant inflation with the lowest velocity of money stats we have seen in the last 60 plus years.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... inflation can mostly be seen.
The price of yachts and super cars have gone up mostly but not toilet paper and soup.
hatrack
(59,596 posts)This asscanoe outlived his credibility years ago.
Voltaire2
(13,234 posts)He is the worst, a Cicadan Democratic Deficit Hawk. Wakes up whenever the Democrats are in power.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Yet he keeps answering
BootinUp
(47,207 posts)Shit at a wall. Nothing better to add apparently.
niyad
(113,714 posts)there is no sexual bias in academic or science hiring. His position in both the Clinton and Obama administrations, given his incredible misogyny, was always a disappointment.
Kid Berwyn
(15,018 posts)Good Ol Austerity Summers.
applegrove
(118,870 posts)Now is the time for infrastructure and covid relief. Interest rates are so low. Fat cats hate 1) inflation and then 2) cooling the economy because the first reduces the value of their money and the second means the stock market stops roaring. Thing is everybody shares the cooling. The rich have gotten used to only workers fighting inflation nationally, and the rich are used to the benefits of low credit. Why shouldn't the whole country share the benefit? Why shouldn't the whole country share the pain?
Celerity
(43,655 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)Summers is nobodys fool and only a fool would dismiss him. He is probably correct that there is a risk of inflation. But there is also a risk of economic decline if we dont take the risk of inflation. Biden has addressed this balance of risks saying most economists feel the risk of doing too little is worse than the risk of doing too much. In addition Yellen, the best economic predictor over her years on the fed board, thinks we can fight off inflation. So Im not sure Biden and his team actually disagree with Summers prediction that we MIGHT trigger inflation but figure the risk is a good risk to take.