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Larry Summers says the US is seeing 'least responsible' macroeconomic policy in 40 years (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 OP
I agree with your comment... regnaD kciN Mar 2021 #1
Yeah, like he would know... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #2
He's always been very concerned about inflation... Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2021 #3
Concern about inflation? joetheman Mar 2021 #10
Agree with you. nt Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2021 #12
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #23
In Other Words, Sir --- We're On The Right Track The Magistrate Mar 2021 #4
Obama was floating him for Fed chief, so I wouldn't call him a complete hack. Beakybird Mar 2021 #5
The 40 years has largely been bad for... Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #6
Who listens to Summers? Ritabert Mar 2021 #7
Unfortunately, far too many Democrats over the past thirty-odd years... regnaD kciN Mar 2021 #16
K&R spanone Mar 2021 #8
If you read the article, you'll see his concern is that taxes won't be increased Hoyt Mar 2021 #9
Best thing to do is be in positions that hedge against inflation madville Mar 2021 #18
Agree. Unfortunately, poor and those on fixed income don't have that hedge. Hoyt Mar 2021 #19
Agreed Summers is concerned Dems wont raise taxes on corporations and make equity income uponit7771 Mar 2021 #24
Thanks for the snips, Hoyt! Cha Mar 2021 #27
Read The Article? There's No Fun In Commenting COL Mustard Mar 2021 #28
Fuck Summers. roamer65 Mar 2021 #11
+1, other than government spending the pressure of flow is going to top not the middle where uponit7771 Mar 2021 #26
Larry "Kudlow" Summers . . . . hatrack Mar 2021 #13
Said nothing last year or after the stupid tax cuts. Voltaire2 Mar 2021 #14
Nobody Is Asking Me. Mar 2021 #15
1/3 chance vs 1/3 vs 1/3. just throwing BootinUp Mar 2021 #17
Ah, yes, larry. The guy who said that biology is the reason women do poorly in science, and that niyad Mar 2021 #20
Trickle Down Larry Kid Berwyn Mar 2021 #21
If inflation takes off we cool the economy down using high interest rates. applegrove Mar 2021 #22
Hey Larry Celerity Mar 2021 #25
Published notes of fed prove Yellen was most accurate forecaster on the board Cicada Mar 2021 #29

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
1. I agree with your comment...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:23 PM
Mar 2021

...but would also note that Summers was a prominent voice in both the Clinton and Obama administrations, so this is a call coming from inside the house.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
3. He's always been very concerned about inflation...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:35 PM
Mar 2021

... just like right-wingers who are mostly concerned about protecting people with established wealth. (They obviously want their wealth to always have the same value tomorrow as it does today.)

He might be different than right-wingers in several ways, but any policy that helps protect established wealth more than offering greater opportunities to the poor -- which can include SURVIVAL -- has always been bothersome to me.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
10. Concern about inflation?
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:58 PM
Mar 2021

Just don't allow corporations and businesses with already obscene profit continue to raise prices. Slap on a windfall profits tax
And consumers refuse to buy price gouged items.

The supply and demand BS is not on the table right now. There should be more supply and less demand since the pandemic.

The Magistrate

(95,264 posts)
4. In Other Words, Sir --- We're On The Right Track
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:39 PM
Mar 2021

Summers has taken over Mr. Kristol's old mantle as the public commentator who is always, always wrong.
.

Beakybird

(3,334 posts)
5. Obama was floating him for Fed chief, so I wouldn't call him a complete hack.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:41 PM
Mar 2021

Only time will tell if he's right or wrong.

I agree that many economists could care less if people are dying of poverty as long as the markets are solid.

Lawrence Henry Summers (born November 30, 1954) is an American economist, former Vice President of Development Economics and Chief Economist of the World Bank (1991–93),[1][2][3] senior U.S. Treasury Department official throughout President Clinton's administration (ultimately Treasury Secretary, 1999–2001),[2][3][4] and former director of the National Economic Council for President Obama (2009–2010).[2][3] He is a former president of Harvard University (2001–2006),[3][5] where he is currently (as of March 2017) a professor and director of the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Business and Government at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.[3][6][7]

Happy Hoosier

(7,451 posts)
6. The 40 years has largely been bad for...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:42 PM
Mar 2021

The bottom 80% of America, with only brief respites with Clinton and Obama. Time for people-centered economics.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
16. Unfortunately, far too many Democrats over the past thirty-odd years...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:35 PM
Mar 2021

It's how we got to the point where a right-wing billionaire could credibly frame himself as a "supporter of the common people" and us as "defenders of the elites."


 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. If you read the article, you'll see his concern is that taxes won't be increased
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:50 PM
Mar 2021

as necessary.

That’s not an unreasonable fear for an economist. And if you ever lived through significantly increasing inflation, it ain’t pretty for poor and people on fixed income. Also respect the idea to go big on stimulus to avoid a downturn. These are not unreasonable opinions.

Crux of what Clinton and Obama’s economic adviser said: “While Summers praised the COVID-19 package's "ambition" and its "rejection of austerity orthodoxy," he stated that garnering legislative support for tax increases or spending reductions could prove to be difficult and might pose a "risk of inflation expectations rising sharply."

madville

(7,413 posts)
18. Best thing to do is be in positions that hedge against inflation
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 10:28 PM
Mar 2021

Real estate, reliable equities that consistently pay dividends, precious metals, maybe even cryptocurrency, etc.

Revenue will have to increase or the currency will have to be greatly devalued to pay for the increased spending, pick your poison, none of it will be fun.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Agree. Unfortunately, poor and those on fixed income don't have that hedge.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 10:53 PM
Mar 2021

And, the government will have a hard time bailing them out.

Sad fact is, we need lots of wealthy people to tax to pay for education, child care, bolstering Social Security, jobs, infrastructure, healthcare, debt reduction, etc. We can/should cut military, but that’s a drop in the bucket and provides some of our best paying jobs.

Fortunately, Biden gets this, but will have a hard time addressing it without ticking off a lot of Democrats. Would still rather have a Democrat trying to navigate through this.

uponit7771

(90,370 posts)
24. Agreed Summers is concerned Dems wont raise taxes on corporations and make equity income
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 03:40 AM
Mar 2021

... paid to CEOs taxed on par with regular income.

So am I

The rich will fight tooth and nail to not be taxes at a progressive proportion and the kGQP messaging / feedback machine is going to protect them at all cost.

uponit7771

(90,370 posts)
26. +1, other than government spending the pressure of flow is going to top not the middle where
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 03:42 AM
Mar 2021

... inflation can mostly be seen.

The price of yachts and super cars have gone up mostly but not toilet paper and soup.

Voltaire2

(13,234 posts)
14. Said nothing last year or after the stupid tax cuts.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:27 PM
Mar 2021

He is the worst, a Cicadan Democratic Deficit Hawk. Wakes up whenever the Democrats are in power.

niyad

(113,714 posts)
20. Ah, yes, larry. The guy who said that biology is the reason women do poorly in science, and that
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 11:41 PM
Mar 2021

there is no sexual bias in academic or science hiring. His position in both the Clinton and Obama administrations, given his incredible misogyny, was always a disappointment.

applegrove

(118,870 posts)
22. If inflation takes off we cool the economy down using high interest rates.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 12:03 AM
Mar 2021

Now is the time for infrastructure and covid relief. Interest rates are so low. Fat cats hate 1) inflation and then 2) cooling the economy because the first reduces the value of their money and the second means the stock market stops roaring. Thing is everybody shares the cooling. The rich have gotten used to only workers fighting inflation nationally, and the rich are used to the benefits of low credit. Why shouldn't the whole country share the benefit? Why shouldn't the whole country share the pain?

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
29. Published notes of fed prove Yellen was most accurate forecaster on the board
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 07:50 AM
Mar 2021

Summers is nobody’s fool and only a fool would dismiss him. He is probably correct that there is a risk of inflation. But there is also a risk of economic decline if we dont take the risk of inflation. Biden has addressed this balance of risks saying most economists feel the risk of doing too little is worse than the risk of doing too much. In addition Yellen, the best economic predictor over her years on the fed board, thinks we can fight off inflation. So I’m not sure Biden and his team actually disagree with Summers’ prediction that we MIGHT trigger inflation but figure the risk is a good risk to take.

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