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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 02:11 AM Mar 2021

Cut to the Chase, GOP

The fact that the Grand Ol’ Party is now the party of racists and bigots is the worst-kept secret on the planet. So why don’t you drop the pretence that you are anything other than what everyone knows you to be?

Why not end the dog-and-pony show of feigning shock every time you are accused of making racist remarks right after you make blatantly racist remarks? Isn’t it just easier to be yourself, and own what you’ve sown?

Afraid of losing your constituents’ support if you are too obvious? Not a problem – most of them probably support you because they’re racist pigs just like you, so no worries there.

Imagine the freedom of appearing in the media without being shackled by ‘political correctness’, free to express your racism – free to not have to explain your association with white supremacist groups, free at last to say, “Yes, I agree with everything these racists stand for!”

Imagine the joy of finally shedding the pretence of being for unity among all Americans when what you really want is division between all Americans based on how white they are.

Everyone knows you Republicans are basically spineless – but this might be a golden opportunity to grow one, and stand-up for the principles you obviously embrace. Now is the time for all racist party members to come to the aid of their party – and stop pretending that the GOP isn’t what it so obviously is.

So out with it, Republicans! You’ll feel so much better once you admit to the truth, and don’t have to play this we are NOT racists game any more.

We all know what you are – so grow a pair and just say so. I assure you that no one will be surprised by the revelation.

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Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. All RepuQ's are not racist, per se ...
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 02:25 AM
Mar 2021

What they damn near all are though, is afraid of losing status and privilege, esp. economic privilege, but other kinds as well.

They want 'white power', not necessarily out a real sense of hatred for other races, but out of a sense like 'we're competing with all other races, and we mustn't lose'.

Competition is in our DNA. Competition through natural selection, that 'force' if you will ... is 'why we exist'.

I'm not excusing them all for this, I think they're wrong about what the actual outcome a multi-cultural society where they're no longer 'the majority' ... will be.

But for a great many of them it's more about fear than overt hatred.

brush

(53,774 posts)
2. Seriously? You're kidding yourself. "Competing against other races"?
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 02:38 AM
Mar 2021

You just defined racism. We're all supposed to be in this together as Americans, not wanting one's own race to win against other races.

Competing individual to get ahead is one thing but "otherizing" other races and strategizing against them is racism.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. Don't you think they 'otherize' us liberals just as much, if not more, even though a ton of us are
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 03:15 AM
Mar 2021

Caucasian?

Don't they strategize against 'us' pretty much constantly?

I know it's in some ways a pedantic difference, but they're not ALL racists. CERTAINLY many are.

What they ARE all doing though ... is acting on primitive, tribal-based instincts.

And fear is at the heart of tribal instincts.

Many of them even hate us white liberals much more than they hate people of other races. Why? Different tribe.

I think their fear is irrational, I'm sure you also do as well. I'm pretty damn sure you and I are right.

I'm not excusing them for being wrong about this, nor will I excuse any overtly racist acts.

Just saying ... they're not ALL racists ... but they're all scared little chickens acting on primitive instincts.

wnylib

(21,439 posts)
9. I cannot agree with you that they
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 04:38 AM
Mar 2021

are not all racists. That might have been true once, decades ago, before the extreme right took over the party, but it is not true now. The party embraced Trump and his mainstreaming and normalization of racism. If Dems ever do that, I would become an Independent in a heartbeat. Someone who is not anti racist is condoning and supporting racism, and that makes him/her a racist, too.

The party that accepted the endorsement of racial supremacist groups became the party of racism. When Hillary Clinton ran for her first term as NY Senator, people advised her that she must include her name on a conservative, fundamentalist, racist party in NY. NY lists several parties on its ballots. They told her that she could not win in NY without seeking their endorsement or making some concessions to them. She firmly refused to even consider it and said she did not want or need such endorsements. She won, of course, without them.

Evolution depends as much or more on cooperation as on competition. Human tribalism is an expression of our social need as mammals to belong to a social unit. It starts with family and clan and expands to tribe. From there it expands to alliances with other groups for trade and cooperation between groups or tribes.

When people recognize mutually beneficial goals, we negotiate and cooperate on terms of agreement. In the US, that is encoded in our constitution. I do not believe that the US constitution is contrary to human nature. It is built on the basic human nature of cooperation and negotiation for the mutual benefit of all.

Tribalistic competitiveness within a group or nation weakens it. That is not an evolutionary advantage. Cooperation is a basic part of human nature and evolution.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. Thanks for your trenchant and thoughtful analysis ...
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:20 AM
Mar 2021

I agree almost entirely.

In the end I think our difference in opinion comes down to me having a bit stricter definition of what constitutes someone being rightfully called a racist.

Thanks again, well said and thought through

brush

(53,774 posts)
15. I'm sorry but I had to stop reading after you said they...
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 12:25 PM
Mar 2021

otherize Caucasians as well because the naivete is stunning. Caucasians can and do easily slide under winger radar because of what they look like. Nobody is going after them like they are against Asian Americans right now, or Black Americans, or Latinx Americans whose appearances are evident.

Allies please educate yourself, try to view things in the eyes of those being discriminated against because of their race. Use your privilege to help. Be aware of and what advantages it gives you to help.

Your argument that Caucasians are otherized also is just too similar to recent poll results which show that 26% of white republicans feel they are discriminate against because of their race.

Come on.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. You're missing my point, but that's okay.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 12:35 PM
Mar 2021

"Your argument that Caucasians are otherized also is just to similar to recent poll results which show that 26% of white republicans feel they are discriminate against because of their race."

That's not what I think nor was meaning to convey.

I'm just saying for many of them it's less overt racism and more tribalism. And it's based on fear of losing privilege/status/power, whether it's to Liberals/Democrats or people of other races (or both obviously).

I know a number of Republicans ... and only a couple of them are what I would call racist.

I think saying 'every single Republican is a racist' is a bit over-the-top. Many? Sure. Not all.

Sorry if that offends your sensibilities.

brush

(53,774 posts)
17. Doesn't offend my anything. I expect racism from republicans.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 12:44 PM
Mar 2021

If I belonged to an organization with overt racism being so evident I would leave it, wouldn't associate myself with it. There's always the option of becoming an independent. Or even a conservative Dem.

Check this link evidence of the depts that party has sunk to.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215254732#post1

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
3. I take your point.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 02:48 AM
Mar 2021

But the truth is that the GOP has been way more than obvious in their embracing of racism, and Republican voters who continue to support the party are culpable for their actions.

Whether it is out of hatred of other races or fear, the end result is the same: if you support the GOP, you are supporting racism. And it is impossible to pretend otherwise.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
4. That's the reason they're using the cancel culture card well one of the reasons
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 02:51 AM
Mar 2021

Because cancel culture is accountability culture which means they hate the fact that they're being called out on their racism and hate. So they use that as their excuse of saying oh you're trying to silence my voice. Is it hard to figure it out? No. Anyone with an IQ of above 75 can see right through that cancel culture crap.

Then again 74 million people have a lower IQ than 75 combined

multigraincracker

(32,674 posts)
8. As long as they are coming out out as racist,
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 04:23 AM
Mar 2021

might as well say what they really think of women, gay and and non Southern Baptist too. Have we left anyone out?

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