'It Hit Me Hard': Northbrook Mom Gets COVID After Second Vaccine Dose

[pstokely]

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/it-hit-me-hard-northbrook-mom-gets-covid-after-second-vaccine-dose/2465900/

"The Illinois Department of Public Health told NBC 5 it is tracking cases of individuals who have been vaccinated and test positive for COVID-19. According to IDPH, of the more than 1.6 million people who are fully vaccinated, 217 reported a positive test more than two weeks after their last vaccine dose.

Ariel Silver of Northbrook, a sales manager for a medical device company, said she received her second dose of the Pfizer vaccine in mid-January and tested positive for COVID-19 in early March.

Having been fully vaccinated for six weeks and then to get a positive COVID test, I was shocked,” Silver said.

Silver said her two young daughters tested positive in late February, and soon after she started feeling sick."

[Baltimike]

1. I thought the point of the vaccine was the MITIGATE the virus' effects, not

keep you from getting it at all

[Sanity Claws]

3. That was my reaction too

The woman said it protected her against serious case and death.
She lived with her children and caught it from them.

[Hortensis]

4. Well, vaccines enable most bodies to fight off the virus's attempt

to colonize, so in that respect you have to "get" it enough to trigger the protective response. The best response of course is such early and complete "mitigation" of effects that people don't realize the battle occurred. That didn't happen this time.

[LastDemocratInSC]

34. That's a very good summary.

[Ms. Toad]

25. That isn't the point - it is just all that was tested.

The hope was that it would prevent coming down with the disease (which, in turn, would permit herd immunuty).
There are tests going on now, which suggest that it also prevents illness, not just bad symptoms.

This is more likely one of the 5-6% for whom the vaccine did not create immunity - or a variant.

[uponit7771]

26. +1, I'm thankful for just sick and not going to the hospital or dying. if the vaccine does that

... then I think we're in the clear in a little bit.

Also, looks like the US only need to vaccinate 80% of 260 million people which is 208 iinm seeing children can't get the vaccine yet.

I pray these variants are

That does seem like a plot to some B level zombie movie now that I wrote that down.

[Ms. Toad]

29. 80% is only a relevant figure if the vaccine prevents acquiring the disease.

If all it does is prevent symptoms, we're in a world of trouble because my vaccine only protects me. In addition, as long as infections are still occurring the virus will still be mutating (making my vaccine ineffective even to prevent my own severe disease or death.

[TheBlackAdder]

35. AFAIK, it's mainly to help stave off death, not a complete preventative to catching it.

.

I saw a week or two ago that of all of the people inoculated so far, just over 1,400 died.

This is a marked difference from those who do not get vaccinated.

.

[SoonerPride]

2. This is worrisome.

Variants?

Declining immunity efficacy over time?

Just that 5% for whom they are still vulnerable?

So many questions.

[LisaL]

5. 95 % is not a 100 %.

There will still be people getting infected after being vaccinated. Especially with new variants now circulating.

[SoonerPride]

17. Yes. That's why I will still wear a mask.

It’s not foolproof.

And I’m already enough of a fool without being foolhardy.

[Voltaire2]

32. 217 out of 1.9million

That is something like 0.01%.

[soothsayer]

6. If she wasn't hospitalized or died, then I suppose it worked

It doesn’t completely ward off the virus like garlic and vampires, it just lets you fight it without dying.

[mucifer]

7. She said that herself and is encouraging people to get vaccinated

It's in the link

[soothsayer]

8. My true laziness, revealed! Thank you

[mucifer]

14. Well lots of people just read the headline and the first few paragraphs so

I think the nbc local news dropped the ball on putting it late in the article.

[question everything]

9. Wonder whether it is a variant

[BumRushDaShow]

10. These vaccines are NOT a "cure" nor some magical "shield" that eliminates contraction of it

The point is that they (like most vaccines, including many that need periodic boosters) -

1.) reduce the amount of the targeted virus that might replicate in someone who is infected WHEN vaccinated, reducing the amount that could be shed and passed onto someone else

2.) and because of (1), reduces the severity of the infection and symptoms (with reduction of viral load due to the presence of the now-available antibodies)

[mucifer]

15. And a big goal of the vaccine is to keep the hospitals from falling apart like they sometimes

do from covid 19 when cases explode.

[BumRushDaShow]

21. Yup

and it seems with spring break and idiot kids going hog wild, get ready for another round.

[area51]

30. Speaking of boosters,

I'm going to be really curious about the cost of booster shots.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. This will probably end up being like the annual flu shot

Generally vaccines are the last things big pharma wants to get involved in and over the years, countries have begged and cajoled and financed them to do them because compared to other products, they don't "make money" off of them.

The freak circumstance of COVID-19 has changed their business model at the moment but over time, I expect that this will end up like the rest, with "cheaper" generics available...

At this point we have to get to the stage where these vaccines are actually a "fully approved" biologic vaccine product and not just in circulation under an "Emergency Use Authorization".

[Klaralven]

11. 217 out of 1,600,000 sounds like pretty good efficacy.

“It hit me hard," she said. "I’ve read that if someone vaccinated gets COVID, it’s usual very mild symptoms. But for two days my symptoms were not mild at all. I was in bed, very ill."

Which is a lot better than having to be hospitalized.

[jcgoldie]

18. Its more like 1/100th of a percent

One would expect the numbers of people this happens to to be much higher based on the trial numbers.

[LisaL]

23. You need to know how many people got infected out of 1,600,000 unvaccinated

persons to actually make a comparison as to efficacy.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

31. Exactly!

Given the current positive tests of 2.5% in Illinois, only 217 is still about 9 to 10 times lower than what someone might expect with a 95% efficacy rate.

It wouldn't surprise me if many more of the vaccinated got infected too, but they didn't even know it because their symptoms were so mild or non-existent after receiving the shots.

Edit: I majored in math, btw, and this data serves as an another argument for the vaccinated to continue wearing masks for me.

[obamanut2012]

22. It's nowhere close to 7%

[2naSalit]

13. And for only two days.

[frazzled]

16. One other question

How did this young sales manager for a medical device company manage to get a vaccine in mid-January anyway? That would not be considered front-line medical personnel, I should think—the only group eligible at the time.
Vaccines for other essential workers and over 65 did not start in Illinois until late January, and were still very hard to get because of vaccine shortages that still existed.

[Maraya1969]

20. I thought about that too. She is very young and didn't mention any immune compromising

conditions she may have had.

[Celerity]

24. She is not 'very young'. She is 40. nt

[SoCalNative]

27. Perhaps she was part

of the testing phase?

[frazzled]

28. Nah, that was before approval of vaccines

Obviously, being in the medical device business, she had some contacts. My guess is that she was a line jumper. Who knows.

[Irish_Dem]

19. She was not hospitalized, not on a ventilator, didn't die. Success in my book.