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Tom Boggioni
March 22, 2021
Critics of Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI ) had a field day on Sunday night over an interview the controversial Republican gave to a local TV station about the naming of Greenland to make a point about climate change.
In the interview, reported by the New York Times, Johnson suggested, "You know, there's a reason Greenland was called Greenland. It was actually green at one point in time. And it's been, you know, since, it's a whole lot whiter now so we've experienced climate change throughout geologic time."
As the Times notes, "In the interview on Thursday, Mr. Johnson was still misinformed about the etymology of Greenland, which got its name from the explorer Erik the Red's attempt to lure settlers to the ice-covered island," adding Johnson continued, "I could be wrong there, but that's always been my assumption that, at some point in time, those early explorers saw green. I have no idea."
Those quotes, along with a GOP operative who worked on his first campaign describing to the Times his "muscular ignorance" led to a deluge of jokes about Johnson with one critic calling the Wisconsin senator a "gullible rube."
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samnsara
(17,622 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)one would think that Wisconsin could do better
Paladin
(28,255 posts)Which is saying something, considering all the competition.
AZ8theist
(5,459 posts)maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 22, 2021, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)
The NYT got a quote from a retiree leaving the Pick N Save to end their article today: "it's sort of like Trump: I'd vote for him because the other side's awful, but I'd prefer somebody else."
It boils down to RW propaganda: they've been convinced all Dems are Antifa Gun-Grabbing Communist Baby-Killers.
See: Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, etc.
IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)sorry, Russ!
Delmette2.0
(4,165 posts)Hint, so much longer than the 1,000 years (give or take) of Viking exploration.
Pinback
(12,154 posts)And its the Republicans who whine about revisionist history.
2naSalit
(86,586 posts)Obviously.
RussBLib
(9,008 posts)So many times I have heard someone espouse some absurd idea, and when challenged, say they really have "no idea."
So, why the fuck do people make definitive statements when you actually have "no idea?"
IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)and even cite them as evidence
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Twice.
The recent track record of Wisconsin voters is...uh...not good. Voted for Trump in '16...elected Scott Walker governor twice...Are all the smart people moving out of there or what....?
maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)There are fewer and fewer smart people, and expertise is resented more and more.
Rhiannon12866
(205,320 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)malthaussen
(17,193 posts)Bad Thoughts
(2,524 posts)I don't care about how it got its name.
Anyone who has read Jared Diamond's Collapse knows that when Europeans first saw the island, they saw what appeared to be verdant lands along the southern coasts. What they did not understand was how fragile the ecology was. The settlers quickly destroyed the topsoil, especially by removing it in order to insulate their homes.
Was Greenland green? Yes, in parts. Did it turn to ice in "geological time?" Absolutely not.Humans did it themselves.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)The Little Ice Age explains the change in temperature. The Norse certainly fucked up the Greenlandic ecology, but the effect was more dietary than climactic; the settlers were malnourished.
Bad Thoughts
(2,524 posts)maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)and refused to eat what the land gave them/what the natives ate: fish, seal, whale, etc.
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I learned the origin of Greenland's name in high school geography . Of course, I graduated in 1959. I don't think schools still teach the same way. Anyway I think it was a great idea. I never forgot it.
Wild blueberry
(6,626 posts)niyad
(113,293 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)"Etymology
The early Norse settlers named the island as Greenland. In the Icelandic sagas, the Norwegian-born Icelander Erik the Red was said to be exiled from Iceland for manslaughter. Along with his extended family and his thralls (i.e. slaves or serfs), he set out in ships to explore an icy land known to lie to the northwest. After finding a habitable area and settling there, he named it Grnland (translated as "Greenland" , supposedly in the hope that the pleasant name would attract settlers.[22][23][24] The Saga of Erik the Red states: "In the summer, Erik left to settle in the country he had found, which he called Greenland, as he said people would be attracted there if it had a favorable name."[25]
The name of the country in the indigenous Greenlandic language is Kalaallit Nunaat ("land of the Kalaallit" .[26] The Kalaallit are the indigenous Greenlandic Inuit people who inhabit the country's western region."
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)More often than not the weak minded will go for it.
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)...we need to start making politicians show proof of high school diploma. "Because we don't believe you".
Go stand over there by Gohmert.