Yeah, I AM gonna say it---FUCK YOUR "RELIGIOUS BELIEFS"!

[Atticus]

I have no problem with anyone believing whatever they choose to believe. I definitely have my own beliefs, but those are my private business. But, I sure as hell have a MAJOR problem with any arrogant ass who insists that HIS beliefs allow him to deny services---even life-saving services---to someone because they don't approve of their lifestyle or their race or even THEIR religion! And, let me wade a little further into this fetid quagmire: IMHO, 99% of those who seek to justify their mean assholery because of their "religious beliefs" are lying sonsabitches! They don't HAVE any recognizable religious beliefs except when they need a shield for their mean-spirited bigotry.

I may start selling tee shirts.

[Blecht]

1. Amen!

[DENVERPOPS]

102. Double Amen!

I have seen countless hyper religious types that use their religion to justify everything they do, including criminal acts.....

[Glorfindel]

2. Well said, Atticus

and thank you!

[MLAA]

3. I'll take an extra small please.🙂

[50 Shades Of Blue]

4. K & R!!!!!!!

[NightWatcher]

5. I wear an XXL and I hope it comes in bright, vibrant colors.

[AndyS]

6. Freedom OF religion means freedom FROM religion nt

[monkeyman1]

11. i like that statement a bunch . want that on a t- shirt .

[flibbitygiblets]

42. You can probably get one from the Freedom From Religion folks

Ron Reagan...proud athiest...NOT afraid of burning in hell!

[certainot]

60. someone tell ron about sex on the wrong brain

that theory is kind of a unified theory of thought and behavior suggesting humans have been learning sex with the wrong hand. the differences that made go back to our earliest ancestors and were selected for in times of conflict and scarcity and was the reason we're 90% right handed - right hand connected to left brain. it could be selected for and inherited by human populations that preferred particular symptoms. it started getting really bad a few thousand years ago.

major symptoms of sex on the wrong brain, or sowb, include greed and the Certainty Deficit Disorder (need for certainty/finality/closure to satisfy
'logic'?) and major religions were mechanisms for creating certainty and increasing sexual repression/frustration - to increase periods of masturbation associated with guilt, punishment, violence, etc

sowb theory predicted an increase in extremism due to pandemic increase in masturbation. it also suggests killing might be a way of satisfying the irrational need for certainty

[RVN VET71]

66. Tim McCarver liked to point out

that left-handers are more connected to the right brain -- which, of course, means that southpaws are the only people who are in their right minds. And I am in complete agreement, my own left handedness playing no rile in my objective determination. (Barrack Obama was a southpaw, btw. Reagan was, but converted to the dark side at an early age.)

[certainot]

101. sex on the wrong brain site blames sowb for 90% right handedness and also suggests the surviving

left handers, while having less sowb, were more adaptable to a right handed world. not sure what that means but handedness expert chris mcmanus charts the millions of years of decreasing left handedness from about 50-50 to nearly 0 (discrimination? maybe those left handers stood out too much?), then it rebounded to 10%.

[Mr. Steve]

64. abso-damn-lutely

I fully agree. Religious superstitions are the most dangerous and lethal forms of institutionalized stupidity.

[brewens]

59. I like to say my first amendment freedom from religion rights give you the right to keep

your superstition out of my face! I don't give a flying rats assed fuck what you were taught to make believe!

[KarenS]

7. Vneck,,,, square fit,,,, size xlarge,,,, n/t

[Ocelot II]

8. If you don't want to give medical treatment to certain people or for certain conditions

on account of your religious beliefs, you shouldn't have chosen a career as a health care provider in the first place. Do something the fuck else.

[ItsjustMe]

9. K&R

[samnsara]

10. save one for me...

[niyad]

12. A comfy 3x for me, long sleeves, as it will be an over shirt.

[Evolve Dammit]

13. Personally, I'm a militant agnostic: "I don't know and you don't either." Until you "pass on"?

[edhopper]

14. As an atheist

I will say you won't know when you pas on.

[Evolve Dammit]

15. I'm not ruling that out at all.

[edhopper]

16. Got that

I was trying for a joke.

[chowder66]

86. +1

[Hekate]

17. Is that extreme broad-brush title really necessary, Atticus?

Trashing thread so I just don’t have to keep seeing it on my screen...

Peace to all here.

[Atticus]

28. Ok. I don't think my title is half as offensive as the cruel hypocrisy I described. nt

[Mr. Evil]

36. I think your title is just fine. Brutal honesty.

It's nowhere near as offensive (I don't find it offensive at all) as the cruel hypocrisy you described. And you only hit upon one tiny bit of the tip of the iceberg with regards to religious hypocrisy in this country.

My personal belief system is very simple. I don't care where you are from (we're all from Earth), I don't care what language you speak, I don't care what color your skin is, I don't care who your favorite sports teams are (unless it's Alabama - I hate you)(not really), I don't care if you're rich, poor, short, tall, fat or thin. My belief is that there are only two kinds of people on this planet; those that are assholes and those that are not assholes.

That's why I come here to DU (among a few others). This is a place where those that are not assholes can come and reliably find out who the assholes are.

[chowder66]

87. +1

[shrike3]

96. I don't think he's broad brushing. He has a problem with people wanting to force him to live

by their beliefs. He's right to come down hard on them.

[onlyadream]

18. Before I got to your last line about the t-shirts

I was thinking, this should be on a t-shirt!

[jcgoldie]

19. speaking of t-shirts...

I have this one always a crowd pleaser...

[roamer65]

21. How devilish of you.

[chwaliszewski]

34. My favorite chord is Gsus

[smirkymonkey]

48. Love this!

[roamer65]

20. Christian Taliban.

[chwaliszewski]

32. Or conveniently stated....

Talibangelical.

[weissmam]

22. Please DO!

You are awesome!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

23. I'd certainly prefer the culture of Norway where...

... people act like, "Well, I never!" in regard to people openly talking about their religious beliefs.

[-misanthroptimist]

24. Those who use their religion...

...as an excuse for their own petty shortcomings are reprehensible and plentiful in America.

I feel the same way about many who bleat on about their so-called patriotism.

[Atticus]

105. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." nt

[Mickju]

25. Spot on!

I left religion behind while I was still in high school. My parents had made me attend church twice on Sunday as well as Wednesday night since birth. Once I left home I completely rejected it and have never ever regretted it.

[dianaredwing]

26. I'll buy one

[ancianita]

27. Jesus never excluded. Inclusive religions don't resort to exclusionary rules and believer wars.

Jesus knew this. Christians should get better acquainted with Jesus.

Almost all of the 12 major world religions believe in inclusion, except for women. In all of them, women are still spiritual inferiors in most religions. Which is why Jesus didn't belong to any religion after he left Judaism.

I can't even get as outraged as you about it, but as a woman, I think I understand where you're coming from.

[marie999]

78. Jesus never left Judaism. Early Christianity was considered a Jewish sect.

[ancianita]

80. You mean Christianity was Jews for Jesus? Okay, then. Because Judaism left him.

[paleotn]

107. Paul of Tarsus. The original televangelist.

For fame and power, he took that particular Jewish sect big time. Had a conversion yarn that beats even the My Pillow guy. Pity people still take that guy seriously all these centuries later.

[KG]

29. religion is a scam.

[LakeArenal]

31. "We can treat you like hell your whole life on earth, cuz,

Your payment is in Heaven.”

Now get to work.

[chowder66]

88. +1

[LakeArenal]

30. Aren't those people called death panels?

Ron Johnson I believe likes death panels.

[chwaliszewski]

33. Heard this one from my wife...

What's the difference between a religion and a cult?



Centuries of tradition.

[Aussie105]

37. Big difference!

A cult is a religion taken to extremes.

A religion is a cult taken to extremes.

So, not the same.

I'm religious.
But my religion forbids me to mention that I am, or to use it to hit other people over the head with.
Bullying, browbeating and denigrating others is definitely NOT part of any religion, as far as I know.

Religious or not, we can all recognize the Devil, and those amongst up who follow him. Right?

[monkeyman1]

44. very smart lady !!

[shrike3]

97. You'd be surprised how many cults aren't religious.

While I was studying criminology we had a section on cults, and there are weight loss cults, financial cults, "success" cults. There was a cult for a while there in Arizona which targeted widows living far from family; they'd be so grateful for the attention they'd let the cult infiltrate in ways they might not have in a different situation.

The instructor also said corporations engage in cult-like behavior in some situations. I took that with a grain of salt. Then I heard friends complain what was going on at work, and I thought, hmmm ...

[yaesu]

35. Yep, science fiction never interested me but the flying spaghetti monster does sound intriguing. nt

[cynical_idealist]

85. many are seeking scienceless fiction

[Iggo]

38. Preach!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. :)

[LuvLoogie]

39. Bigotry shrouded in Piety is Bigotry.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. Chill pill, dear Atticus! Might recommend something between

a hot tub a martini or a joint.

💕 You

[marie999]

79. Drinking alcohol in a hot tub can be dangerous.

Both can dehydrate you.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

100. Oh geesh...

[BobTheSubgenius]

43. A quote I have found apt several times in the past.

And I think it's apt here, too.

"You know you've made God in your image when he hates all the same people you do."

That's all it is here. NOT genuine religious belief, but a cover for hate.

[chowder66]

89. +1

[Roy Rolling]

45. Settle Down Beavis

Don’t become intolerant like them. That would be an unwanted outcome.

[sarcasmo]

46. Headed for Greatest Threads.

[Gaugamela]

47. IMHO, their "God" is simply a projection of their rancid patriarchal, self-entitled ego.

I don’t identify as Christian, and I was thankfully brought up in an agnostic, secular family. But I have read the majority of the Bible, including most of the New Testament, and I don’t recognize anything these people espouse as coming from that source. In my opinion, the Mafia, Latin American drug cartels, African warlords, ISIS, the Taliban, and the American Christian Right, are all exactly the same thing. Unconscious, unenlightened, self-entitling patriarchy. They have no belief, no political philosophy. They just operate from the reptilian brain stem, and think they possess the obvious unadulterated Truth.

Fuck ‘em.

[PatrickforB]

49. Indeed.

Usually when someone announces they are a 'christian' and gives me their 'testimony,' I button up my wallet pocket.

[Ferrets are Cool]

50. Can't argue with that.

[flying_wahini]

51. I'll take one in a women's Medium.

[live love laugh]

52. Bravo

[BComplex]

53. Well said, Atticus!

That was a great post. My sentiments exactly.

[Treefrog]

54. Go sing that song in Saudi Arabia and let us know how it goes. Do you know how much women are

denied in that country? And that’s only one of many. I see people screaming about Christianity here all the time, but somehow other religions are given a pass. I am not religious in the least, but i find that a bit disturbing.

[Atticus]

55. Who was "screaming about Christianity"? Not me. I AM screaming about the PERVERSION

of Christianity---and any other religion---when used to "justify" discrimination against "different" people.

[Fullduplexxx]

70. Yea by attacking all of religion

Otherwise you'd a said fuck your perverted religious belief but who cares about finesse when you have an axe to grind

[Atticus]

73. 1.) Putting "religious beliefs" in quotes usually means something to most folks, and

2.) try reading beyond the title. Those words are there for a purpose.

[Fullduplexxx]

76. I read beyond the title and your quotation marks dont imply what you're saying. What you need is an

Asterisk but anyway you're still blaming "religious beliefs " when your angry at the people using them.

[Atticus]

77. What. Ever. nt

[sfdennis1]

91. not so much

So the reasoning here is "hey, WE don't abuse people as badly as THEY do, so knock it off"...Sorry (notsorry) but that's not good enough. If anything it just shows that most all religious systems are rife with the potential for abuse.

[Mariana]

106. When did the OP mention Christianity in particular? nt

[Galileo126]

56. Thoughts and prayers...!

[Ingersollman]

57. Hear!

Hear!

One of the leading contributors of discord and violence world-wide is the "sincerely held religious beliefs" of people.

For they are not all the same, therefore, some will look at others as wrong. And there it begins.

[spanone]

58. ⭐️K&R⭐️

[NeoGreen]

61. K&R and...

...FYI:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/123059123

[Atticus]

63. Thanks. Actually, reading about that yesterday is what "tripped my trigger" and generated that OP.

I typed the four "offensive words" alone as my original title, but kept clearing it while saying "You can't say that!" to myself. Eventually, I thought "This is DU" and said what I said.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

62. Yep: Arkansas Bill That Allows Medical Workers to Refuse Treatment to LGBTQ People

Awaits Governor's Signature

A bill delivered to the desk of Republican Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson on Monday would allow medical professionals to refuse service to LGBTQ people.

SB 289, the Medical Ethics and Diversity Act, would allow doctors and other health care workers to deny any non-emergency services based on religious, moral or ethical objections. The bill was passed by the Arkansas state legislature last week. Health care organizations would be banned from taking any disciplinary actions against workers who refuse services based on "conscience" under the law.

It is not clear whether Hutchinson supports the bill. The governor opposed a similar bill in 2017, but said last month that the recent proposal addresses "an important concern by the public and medical community," according to the Associated Press. The bill is one of several controversial proposals recently delivered to Hutchinson. Another proposal sent to the governor on Monday would ban transgender women and girls, but not men and boys, from participating in school sports in accordance with their gender identities.

The text of SB289 does not single out LGBTQ people, and its broad scope could have major implications for all Arkansas residents. For instance, residents could be refused medication from pharmacists that have personal conscience-based objections to any prescription. Psychologists and therapists would also be covered by the law and could refuse to treat anyone that does not meet their personal religious or moral standards. The bill would also allow academics the choice to refuse publishing the results of studies if the facts gathered are in conflict with their beliefs.

https://www.newsweek.com/arkansas-bill-that-allows-medical-workers-refuse-treatment-lgbtq-people-awaits-governors-1577954

I'd like a Women's Medium in Turquoise Blue, please.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

90. RepubliQans always name bills such as to imply the exact opposite of the true effect. Liars, all.

[Lonestarblue]

65. Far too many right-wing evangelicals believe in the gospel of racism, white privilege, and

the almighty dollar. The real gospel and the real almighty are far beyond their comprehension. They are sheep led by evangelical pastors often raking in millions of dollars for their mega churches and so-called ministries of racism, hate, and insurrection to turn the government into a theocracy. No thanks. I’ll stick with democracy.

[Hotler]

67. The Christian right is neither. nt

[HAB911]

68. PREACH!

[notKeith]

69. how's this look?

It took longer to figure out how to get this image to DU, than it did to create it!
You can't copy/paste into the message text box, so I had to throw it out on the internet somewhere.

[mountain grammy]

71. I'll take one.. XL..

my husband finds the use of the word FUCK offensive unless he uses it.

[3catwoman3]

94. Did you intend for the intersection of...

...religious and beliefs to look like a cross?

[Moostache]

72. Hepped up on goofballs...

This Simpsons clip always makes me think of the rank hypocrisy of many overtly religious types...just a public service announcement to the "I-have-to-save-souls-for-Jesus" crowd - kindly piss off, I want no part of an eternity of worship with you people around me...that would be my personal hell.

[shrike3]

74. I'm a practicing Christian and I agree with you.

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A gay woman I know said, "If you think homosexuality is sinful, don't engage in homosexual acts." Perfect. That's the way to do it. My beliefs are for me, not for you.

The Colorado shooter was taken to a hospital after he was apprehended; I'm sure the doctors and nurses were revolted by his acts, which went against any sane person's moral code yet it was their job to treat him and I'm sure they did.

Since the nation has become so diverse we need to operate on a secular basis so as to protect everyone's belief, from Christian to Wiccan to non-believer.

[Atticus]

75. I'm with you. nt

[Towlie]

81. Add a footnote to your t-shirt: "... unless you believe in the one TRUE religion."

 
←

That should prompt some critical thinking. If anyone tells you that their religion is the one true religion, remind them that the majority of humanity believes that religion is false.

[seta1950]

82. Exactly

Enough of these religious believers who want to control everyone’s life, especially women and minorities.

[pandr32]

83. You have a way with words!

[WinstonSmith4740]

84. You GO with your bad self, Atticus

Absolutely right on everything. These sanctimonious bastards don't give a damn about anything but themselves and consider their bigotries badges of honor. Woody Allen hit it years ago in "Hannah and Her Sisters". The money line is at 1:30.
And I'd buy a t-shirt.

[redstatebluegirl]

92. So well said!

[Tree Lady]

93. My husband says here is his t-shirt

[url=https://ibb.co/k0DVjnL][img][/img][/url]

[Lunabell]

95. Just keep your religious crap to yourself.

Evangelicals are the worst. They just can't be chill about their beliefs. They're whole shtick is to recruit souls. And they have no compunction against forcing that shit down my throat by making laws to ensure I have to live their beliefs too. And such hypocrisy!!

[onecaliberal]

98. Hear, hear! I will take 2, size SM

[Maine Abu El Banat]

99. That was one of the most

Spot on things I've read in a while. "Who would Jesus discriminate against" My guess is no one.

[demigoddess]

103. count up the millions that have been killed in Europe for being a member of the 'wrong' religion.

After Henry the 8th there were massacres of protestants and catholics depending on who was in power. Over and over in England and France. Not to mention the 6 million Jews murdered in WWII. And how many murdered for being gay, because the religion forbade it. Millions and Millions. That is why we have separation of church and state in the US. Not freedom of religion but separation of church and state.

[Smackdown2019]

104. Republicans use God, Guns, Lincoln, Country Actors/Singers

Religion is not a puppet to smash onto others and lowlife hypocrites sin Saturday night and sing in the chorus Sunday Morning. I stopped going to church for the 10 minute sermon, with 50 minutes of music. That's not worshipping!

[Laha]

108. Wish I could recommend this a billion times.

I'm tired of people who cloak their bigotry behind so-called religious beliefs. Time to call them out.