HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » The F'ing AR-15

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 04:55 AM

The F'ing AR-15

How many more times?


27 replies, 2985 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 27 replies Author Time Post
Reply The F'ing AR-15 (Original post)
True Dough Mar 2021 OP
SunSeeker Mar 2021 #1
Arkansas Granny Mar 2021 #2
uponit7771 Mar 2021 #3
Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #4
mnmoderatedem Mar 2021 #5
Kaleva Mar 2021 #6
AverageOldGuy Mar 2021 #10
Cosmocat Mar 2021 #13
Locrian Mar 2021 #18
Kaleva Mar 2021 #20
Kaleva Mar 2021 #19
RVN VET71 Mar 2021 #7
hack89 Mar 2021 #17
Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #23
Ilsa Mar 2021 #8
AverageOldGuy Mar 2021 #9
BeyondGeography Mar 2021 #11
jcgoldie Mar 2021 #25
BeyondGeography Mar 2021 #26
speak easy Mar 2021 #12
czarjak Mar 2021 #14
Unknown Beatle Mar 2021 #15
Delmette2.0 Mar 2021 #16
mitch96 Mar 2021 #24
Delmette2.0 Mar 2021 #27
ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2021 #21
hack89 Mar 2021 #22

Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 05:25 AM

1. The same gun humpers who helped end the assault weapons ban...

Are now lining up with their Thin Blue Line flags, shedding crocodile tears, to honor fallen Boulder officer Eric Talley.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 05:36 AM

2. And along comes the "guns don't kill people" crowd. Who do you think has the ear of Congress?

I've said many times that if we couldn't get any gun control measures passed after Newtown, there is little chance of it ever happening.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 05:44 AM

3. PGR's should be placed on same list as grenades

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink



Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 05:52 AM

5. what was the real rationale for making them legal in the first place?

if you have an intruder in your home, you're going to use a hand gun for defense. Nobody sleeps with an AR-15 under their pillow.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mnmoderatedem (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 06:03 AM

6. Semi-auto rifles have been legal for a long time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Kaleva (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 06:37 AM

10. Anyone who needs 20 rounds . . .

True that semi-auto weapons are legal -- pistols, rifles, shotguns. In fact, I own a few -- .45 and .40 cal pistols, Remington 1100 shotgun. My rifles all are bolt-action with 4 or 5 round magazines.

While the AR-15 is marketed as a "modern sporting rifle," anyone who needs 10 or 20 rounds for deer hunting should take up another hobby. My Remington and Weatherby rifles have 4- and 5-round magazines. I've never needed more than 2 for deer, elk, and moose. Besides, using the AR-15 most popular round-- 5.56 mm -- is not legal for hunting in most states and heavily restricted in others.

I carried the original AR-15 -- the M-16 -- during three tours in a place called "Viet Nam." Don't own one now, have no use for it. There need to be bans on certain types of weapons and magazine capacity. Period.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AverageOldGuy (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:01 AM

13. Well stated, thank you

nm

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AverageOldGuy (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:58 AM

18. image

I think there's also a psychological "image" of the AR type weapons. Yes, I know that semi-auto is semi-auto, etc.
But it seems that ARs are marketed at the "go to war" gun that is "best" if you need to "go to battle". '
While there may be a few "sport enthusiasts" - its just not the target audience.

The target audience is people who (mainly) live in a fear based world, where the "need' something to keep them safe. Or go on a killing spree. Or both. Look at all the cosplay stuff (vests, belts, gear, etc) that the proud boys type, etc all seem to buy with their ARs. That isn't for "deer hunting" or "target shooting". Its buying into a fear based tough guy (sometimes girls but mainly guys).

So it's no wonder that AR "image" is what sells when your local crackpot, white supremacist, right wing religious (?) wacko goes off the deep end. And I think that IS a big deal.

It doesn't mean the AR isnt similar in capability to no AR semi-autos, but the mentality/image/psychology is different.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Locrian (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:21 AM

20. ARs are popular because they are so versatile

They can fire anything from pistol cartridges up to shotgun shells and high power center fire rounds.

The versatility of the gun is what will make it impossible to ban unless one bans all semi-auto rifles.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AverageOldGuy (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:13 AM

19. Most states allow hunting of deer with the .223 round.

which states prohibit it?

In parts of lower Michigan, the guns you have would be illegal to use for hunting as they are considered too powerful.

Also, one can easily purchase 5 round mags for AR-15 style rifles.

AR-15 style rifles can fire anything from .22 cal to shotgun shells. Your can buy one that fires the same rounds your rifles do.

And since you can buy an AR that fires the same rounds as you own rifles do and you can purchase 5 round mags for the AR, what is your actual issue with the AR style rifle then?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mnmoderatedem (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 06:11 AM

7. Money, sales, bad people getting rich

and their whores and minions in Congress getting whores and donations. Its what makes America so exceptional.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mnmoderatedem (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:49 AM

17. The lines were drawn in 1934 by the Gun Control Act

Semi-automatic weapons were common and had been around for decades and were deemed acceptable. Fully automatic weapons were basically outlawed

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mnmoderatedem (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:27 AM

23. When the AR-15 was first marketed in the 1960's, semiauto firearms had already been in existence

and legal to own since the 1890's. This Winchster Model 1907 rifle could be equipped with 20 round magazines over a century ago;

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 06:24 AM

8. Muskets. Only muskets. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 06:27 AM

9. ". . . three times is enemy action."

This observation appears in Ian Fleming's book "Goldfinger":

Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.


While there is some question as to where Ian Fleming picked up this quote, there is no question that the observation is accurate.

So -- now the question is: "Who is the enemy?" I think we all know the answer to that.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 06:38 AM

11. Maybe the gunners here can start a feelgood thread about AR-15s

Were all ears, guys.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:35 AM

25. Its a slippery slope you know?

First they get your AR 15 automatic weapon that everyone uses for mass shootings pretty soon they want your deer hunting rifle...

Sort of like how they started out making us drive 55 and wear seat belts and now the speed limits are all 20 and people have to wrap themselves in bubble wrap... no way to control that sort of overreach and make the laws specific to the problems I suppose...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jcgoldie (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:38 AM

26. Next thing you know

well be saving lives.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 06:56 AM

12. OK. Yeah. But Atlanta was a hand gun.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:05 AM

14. Just following The Chosen One's orders?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:14 AM

15. El Paso Walmart Shooter

had a WASR-10 rifle, a semi-automatic civilian version of the AK-47. An AR-15 and an AK-47 are very similar.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:45 AM

16. If we can't do anything practical,

like Universal Background Checks, banning automatic weapons, and magazine clips.

Let's just call it what we ideally need.

If an individual wants an automatic weapon of any kind or magazine clips, oh and silencers. They just need a special license. We will call it the Human Hunting License.


I am so sick of the NRA and their bullshit.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Delmette2.0 (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:33 AM

24. "If we can't do anything practical"..Ban the bullets.. or make them $10/round...

Yea, yeah I know.. only bad guys will get the bullets trop.....
m

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mitch96 (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:55 AM

27. Pffff.

$10 a round is nothing. Make it $100 or $500 a round.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:54 AM

21. The time is NOW to reinstate the Assault Weapons ban

To the dismay of the gun lovers.

All of the slaughter that has taken place in recent years has been done with this weapon. There is NO need for it to be sold to civilians.

Personal protection, my ass! This shooter in Boulder yesterday was not hunting Elk or protecting his home from intruders. Nor is this about the 2nd Amendment. It CEASES to be about the 2nd Amendment when guns are used to murder people in the manner as in Boulder, Aurora, Newtown, Las Vegas, Atlanta, and elsewhere.

If Congress is too chickenshit to act, the people must rise up to demand a stop to the easy access to guns, while doing everything they can to making voting harder.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:05 AM

22. Senate Democrats will never let that happen

Dont you remember what happened after Sandy Hook? To increase our numbers in the Senate we will need to win pro-gun states.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread