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PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:09 AM Mar 2021

Excuse #832 for the insurrection at the Capitol:

Background: the lady who proffered this to me yesterday comes from northeastern Pennsylvania business money. Her family owned a chain of now-defunct department stores so you get the idea.

I must admit I have not heard this one before and was so amused by it that I could not retort:

“So you see, the FBI is spending enormous amounts of time manpower and effort into finding these people who really should not have done what they did but the manpower and money would be better spent looking for people who perpetrated or even would perpetrate gun and even knife violence in this country and locking them away. Imagine if the FBI always worked this hard and could get rid of the real criminals in the society instead of these people who may have had a lapse of judgment for an afternoon.”



I must admit that this was so incredibly stupid coming from someone who is educated that I started to laugh. She asked me which part of this was so funny, and I referred her to Orwell’s 1984. She did not appreciate the reference to thought-crimes. I quietly said to her that invading the Nation’s Capitol is not a lapse of judgement but an attempt to violently overthrow a duly elected government which has serious personal implications including capital punishment and/or life in prison.

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Excuse #832 for the insurrection at the Capitol: (Original Post) PCIntern Mar 2021 OP
That is funny. "Hey look Judge, it was just my first gas station robbery" underpants Mar 2021 #1
Is the judge in your example Susan Collins, by any chance? gratuitous Mar 2021 #4
It's fascinating in a horrifying sort of way to watch the shapes these people twist themselves into catbyte Mar 2021 #2
The guy who now hates UpInArms Mar 2021 #3
Thanks for setting her straight. Jay25 Mar 2021 #5
im sick of them using this as terror against us . i read the book and saw the movie AllaN01Bear Mar 2021 #6
Which book? What movie? RVN VET71 Mar 2021 #9
1984? (n/t) PJMcK Mar 2021 #12
1984 the book and the movie . of course . :) AllaN01Bear Mar 2021 #13
"Real criminals in society" - that's a train whistle, not a dog whistle!! bullwinkle428 Mar 2021 #7
This is what happens when people try to repeat what they hear... JohnnyRingo Mar 2021 #8
This is a logical fallacy. Nothing is a binary choice, either this or that not both. AndyS Mar 2021 #10
With thinking like that it's no wonder the department stores are defunct bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #11
Was that wrong? Was I not supposed to do that? Chakaconcarne Mar 2021 #14
"Oh, I FORGOT it was against the law to rob a bank!" Wednesdays Mar 2021 #17
Lol! Well, uh, you know ... but not that there's anything wrong with that! KPN Mar 2021 #20
Ask her for her photos from her lapsing-in-the-Capitol vacation... griloco Mar 2021 #15
60,000 magats simultaneously had a bad day. wnylib Mar 2021 #16
I laughed out loud so you are not alone. appleannie1 Mar 2021 #18
No. And I think they're still Dems PCIntern Mar 2021 #24
Nice retort! Especially the laugh. Good for you. "Lapse of judgement" ... KPN Mar 2021 #19
They will simply never recognize the fact that a crowd of bellowing assholes Warpy Mar 2021 #21
"Yes, lady. That must have been simply 'a lapse in judgement' on their part." BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #22
"In a momentary lapse of judgment, they travelled 1000 miles, stayed in a hotel,... hvn_nbr_2 Mar 2021 #23
Excellent PCIntern Mar 2021 #25
You should have asked her if Officer Sicknick's demise was a "lapse in judgment." Vinca Mar 2021 #26

underpants

(182,799 posts)
1. That is funny. "Hey look Judge, it was just my first gas station robbery"
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:11 AM
Mar 2021

Judge: “Oh. Okay then. I’m sure you learned your lesson”

“Oh yes sir”

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Is the judge in your example Susan Collins, by any chance?
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:43 AM
Mar 2021

She was pretty sure that the former guy had learned his lesson after the first impeachment. Which led to the attempted violent overthrow of the government, which led to the second impeachment, and a safe vote to convict knowing that it wouldn't matter from Senator Concerned.

catbyte

(34,382 posts)
2. It's fascinating in a horrifying sort of way to watch the shapes these people twist themselves into
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:20 AM
Mar 2021

when trying to justify the unjustifiable. You certainly do have some interesting patients!

AllaN01Bear

(18,200 posts)
6. im sick of them using this as terror against us . i read the book and saw the movie
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:09 AM
Mar 2021

1984 in high school . it read like fiction to me . still does . and agree , yet another excuse for their actions. hope this clarifies this post .

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
8. This is what happens when people try to repeat what they hear...
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:21 AM
Mar 2021

...on Hannity.
Sean Hannity has a gift. He can say the most absurd and unbelievable thing in a way that seems to make sense, at least at first. His nonsense falls apart with even the slightest hint of debate, but he doesn't allow that on the show.

When amateurs repeat it, it just sounds ridiculous.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
10. This is a logical fallacy. Nothing is a binary choice, either this or that not both.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:23 AM
Mar 2021

You run into it all the time when you talk to gunners. 'Don't spend your time on gun restrictions, Medicare for all will help more people.' Like we can't walk and chew gum.

bucolic_frolic

(43,158 posts)
11. With thinking like that it's no wonder the department stores are defunct
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:25 AM
Mar 2021

No need to guess when the karma is magnifique!

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
18. I laughed out loud so you are not alone.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:00 PM
Mar 2021

That would not be a Boscov's heir would it? I shop at Boscov's all the time so they are not defunct.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
19. Nice retort! Especially the laugh. Good for you. "Lapse of judgement" ...
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:00 PM
Mar 2021

if that isn't a total lack of good judgement. What is it with these people?

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
21. They will simply never recognize the fact that a crowd of bellowing assholes
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:14 PM
Mar 2021

who happened to look like them turned into a violent mob that committed serious crimes, "our sort" just don't do that sort of thing, you know. It's a ridiculously tribal mindset that gives a false sense of safety, an automatic reliance on predictable behavior patterns in people who physically resemble you and an automatic mistrust of people who don't.

This twit is on the steep end of a very high learning curve and is going to need the obvious pointed out to her frequently.

(Oh, and the FBI does always work this hard, this is just the first time they've worked this hard going after the violent far right instead of the slightly left of center, peaceful groups like Raging Grannies or the Quakers and no, I am not making this up)

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
22. "Yes, lady. That must have been simply 'a lapse in judgement' on their part."
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:24 PM
Mar 2021

"You could tell there was no criminal intent - look at the crowd and see how many of them were POC. Most of the people looked and acted just like you."

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)
23. "In a momentary lapse of judgment, they travelled 1000 miles, stayed in a hotel,...
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:22 PM
Mar 2021

"In a momentary lapse of judgment, they (momentarily) traveled 1000 miles, stayed in a hotel for a couple days (momentarily), met up (momentarily) with the crowd that they planned for weeks to meet up with, walked (momentarily) down to the Capitol, and (momentarily, for a few hours) bear sprayed cops and beat them up with Blue Lives Matter flags (but only momentarily, for hours) and tried to murder the vice president and speaker of the House. It was just a momentary lapse of judgment."

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
26. You should have asked her if Officer Sicknick's demise was a "lapse in judgment."
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:47 PM
Mar 2021

And if she thought it just fine the mob had a lapse in judgment so severe it trampled one of its own to death.

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