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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:59 AM Mar 2021

You love to see it: More insurrectionists indicted

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[UPDATE] James Uptmore has been indicted by a federal grand jury on *FOUR COUNTS* http://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_status



8:54 AM · Mar 23, 2021


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[UPDATE] Alexander Shepard has been indicted by a federal grand jury on *SIX COUNTS* http://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_status


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[UPDATE] Jeffrey Witcher has been indicted by a federal grand jury on *FIVE COUNTS* http://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_status



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[UPDATE] Richard Barnard has been indicted by a federal grand jury on *FOUR COUNTS* http://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_status


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[UPDATE] Virginia Spencer has been indicted by a federal grand jury on *FOUR COUNTS* http://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_status




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[UPDATE] Christopher Spencer has been indicted by a federal grand jury on *FIVE COUNTS* http://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_status


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[UPDATE] Federico Klein has been indicted by a federal grand jury on *EIGHT COUNTS* http://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_status

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You love to see it: More insurrectionists indicted (Original Post) soothsayer Mar 2021 OP
Can we get started on some CONVICTIONS???? TNNurse Mar 2021 #1
Need a trial first gratuitous Mar 2021 #2
Yep, slow and steady wins the race soothsayer Mar 2021 #4
Right, but before that, filed indictments. This is a nationwide swamp of cultists. At this point ancianita Mar 2021 #7
Good question (last line). We can't even see the un-redacted Mueller report FCS. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #8
The 117th should hold hearings as a public review on why indictments are sealed. It could be ancianita Mar 2021 #10
Agreed. It is unecessarily murky and protracted. Hearings would be welcome. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #15
Some perps may not know they are under indictment yet. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #16
See where my looking into that just got me. It's no rabbit hole. It's worse. ancianita Mar 2021 #19
So they might get tipped off by Putin. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #23
No, that's not how this works --it's by his network of proxies through trump and 45's messengers. ancianita Mar 2021 #24
Yeah. Bad news. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #25
If facts of that were in sealed docs exposed by hacking, he might already know that had happened, ancianita Mar 2021 #26
Patience, everyone! Fritz Walter Mar 2021 #14
Even assholes need trials unless they smarten up and plea bargain down Warpy Mar 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #17
Excellent news....now, Lock. Them. Up. nt iluvtennis Mar 2021 #3
Brother sent me the 2nd picture several weeks back KS Toronado Mar 2021 #5
That's hilarious soothsayer Mar 2021 #13
More like hilarious since we had some good laughs over it. KS Toronado Mar 2021 #20
It does my heart good to see these traitors indicted Glorfindel Mar 2021 #6
You got it! soothsayer Mar 2021 #12
Posts like these make me...I was going to say "happy," but nothing about this makes me "happy." BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #11
I really hope the FBI starts aiming higher. Hong Kong Cavalier Mar 2021 #18
You kinda gotta work your way up the food chain soothsayer Mar 2021 #22
True. My fervent hope is that the FBI is slowly but surely doing so. nt crickets Mar 2021 #27
Why aren't the feds showing up at mar a lago to arrest the ring leader? spanone Mar 2021 #21

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Need a trial first
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:31 AM
Mar 2021

And that's months down the line, as evidence is developed, testimony is secured, and the defendants have to sift through the evidence against them. It's time-consuming, cumbersome, and absolutely necessary, and I hope to avail myself of every last legal tool at my disposal should I be accused of a crime.

I want these fuckers behind bars, but I want to make sure they don't get off on a technicality because some overeager prosecutor missed something, like what happened to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge terrorists (Thank you, then-AUSA Billy Williams).

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
4. Yep, slow and steady wins the race
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:36 AM
Mar 2021

Read somewhere that feds have a 99% win record but idk if that’s a fact. They’re pretty sure of their case by time they charge ‘em though.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
7. Right, but before that, filed indictments. This is a nationwide swamp of cultists. At this point
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:43 AM
Mar 2021

there should be no unemployed lawyers. As of yesterday, 351 have been charged. 110 of them are by grand jury indictment. Indictments and trials to follow.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-arrests-2021-03-18/


By March 2021 the Justice Department stated the "investigation and prosecution of the Capitol Attack will likely be one of the largest in American history, both in terms of the number of defendants prosecuted and the nature and volume of the evidence." The Department asked courts to delay most cases by at least two months so the volumes of cases and evidence could be better managed.[521]...

As of March 18, a total of 312 people, from 42 states, were charged in federal court with crimes, including at least 110 indicted by federal grand juries.[26][27] Federal prosecutors expect that at least 400 will ultimately be charged.[521]

Acting U.S. Attorney Sherwin said that "almost all" of the cases charged in federal court have involved "significant federal felonies" with sentences between five and twenty years.[26] Many have been charged with assault on law enforcement officers; "violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol ground";[26] trespassing; disrupting Congress; theft or other property crimes; weapons offenses; making threats; and conspiracy.[523] Some criminal indictments are under seal.[522] The majority of cases are in federal court, while others are in D.C. Superior Court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol#Investigations_and_prosecutions

I wonder why, and whose, indictments are under seal.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
8. Good question (last line). We can't even see the un-redacted Mueller report FCS.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:15 PM
Mar 2021

"nationwide swamp of cultists." That's for damn sure. Probably in the millions

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
10. The 117th should hold hearings as a public review on why indictments are sealed. It could be
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:28 PM
Mar 2021

for timing court cases so that precedents might enable further discovery; it could be over classified info, in which case that should be publicly stated; it could be that elected officials get judges' chamber considerations for questionable reasons.

But sealed indictments and the justice system's neglect of jury-based trial justice really piss me off.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. So they might get tipped off by Putin.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 04:00 PM
Mar 2021

But I doubt he's bothering to interact with individual terrorists.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
26. If facts of that were in sealed docs exposed by hacking, he might already know that had happened,
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 04:46 PM
Mar 2021

and has warned all his fellow seditionists in Congress.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
14. Patience, everyone!
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:21 PM
Mar 2021

The prosecutors may decide to apply some legal thumb-screws to get these seditionist to flip on bigger fish: the organizers.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
9. Even assholes need trials unless they smarten up and plea bargain down
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:25 PM
Mar 2021

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but being assholes, they'll get quick trials, lose them, and be faced with a minimum of fines, court costs, and what I hope will be long probation with their Preciious taken away from them for the duration (you know, no guns).

That last part will hurt them most of all, especially the ones who went in as couples, no way to get their arsenals registered to Mrs. Howler MonKey, she also got the fine and probation.

Trials most likely won't start until June and they won't be over for many months. The wheels of justice grind ever slowly, but grind they do, something these jerks are about to find out.

Response to Warpy (Reply #9)

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
5. Brother sent me the 2nd picture several weeks back
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:38 AM
Mar 2021

asking if the cops were knocking on my door yet. I thought he photo shopped my face in it. Asked where he
was hiding in the photo since we were together that day. Everybody has a look-a-like.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
20. More like hilarious since we had some good laughs over it.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:18 PM
Mar 2021

Scary would have been being at the insurrection among a crazed mob of Qrumpers proudly wearing my
anti-tRump hat.

Glorfindel

(9,726 posts)
6. It does my heart good to see these traitors indicted
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:41 AM
Mar 2021

Thanks for posting, soothsayer, and keep 'em coming!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
11. Posts like these make me...I was going to say "happy," but nothing about this makes me "happy."
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:55 PM
Mar 2021

Maybe "mollified" is the better word.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,572 posts)
18. I really hope the FBI starts aiming higher.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:34 PM
Mar 2021

They need to go after Bannon, Stone and Manafort. Paul Manafort did this kind of shit in the Ukraine against their government. They're neck-deep in this shit and they need to serve some time for this.

Maybe some of the lower hanging fruit will flip...

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