MORON: Oath Keeper Who Stormed Capitol Is Struggling to Cope Because He's a 'Family Man'

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A Florida man and member of the “Oath Keeper” militia organization who was charged with coordinating a military-style attack on the U.S. Capitol aimed at overthrowing the federal government is asking a federal judge to reconsider a ruling that will keep him in jail until the start of his criminal trial.

Graydon Young, 54, was denied bond last month by U.S. Magistrate Judge Thomas Wilson after claiming that he was “duped” into participating in an insurrection with the extremist para-military group. He insisted that he was “unaware of the organization’s nefarious purpose when he joined” and claiming his role in Jan. 6 was “limited.”

In the Second Superseding Indictment filed earlier this month in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., the government alleged that on Jan. 6, Young and nine other members of the Oath Keepers “planned with each other, and with others known and unknown, to forcibly enter the Capitol” in order to “stop, delay, and hinder the Congressional proceedings occurring that day.”


https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/oath-keeper-who-stormed-capitol-is-struggling-to-cope-because-hes-a-family-man-with-no-previous-experience-being-jailed-lawyers-claim

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1. ...

Edited to add: Oh, this is rich.

“The psychological burdens of being detained pending trial are very real for Mr. Young. Since he has no previous experience with the criminal justice system, being detained is taking an extremely high toll on his mental well-being,” the motion stated. “Prior to being detained, Mr. Young was a mentally strong and stable person with no history of mental disorders. His current emotional and psychological state is owing entirely to the fact that he has been detained and is unable to rely upon his normal social support systems. Because he is such a strong family man, locking him up away from his wife and children with the prospect of an extremely long period of time before trial is even scheduled is causing potentially irreparable psychological and emotional damage to Mr. Young.”

I thought he was a "warrior" who would do anything for his Maximum Leader. Whiny asshole.

[LakeArenal]

6. The "psychological" effects of hiding under a table because Oath Keepers are coming for you"

Is a bit damaging too. So.... stay in jail. Teach your family the value of “personal responsibility”

[Firestorm49]

41. Amen!

[davsand]

8. Pretty sure that mess was emotionally damaging to the police and guards too.

You know the ones--right? The ones that got beaten and injured when your gang of seditionists stormed the Capitol. I'm betting they were left with "irreperable physcological and emotional damage" from your group's actions. PRETTY sure that police officer that got killed would be considered as "damaged" by that day, and his family and friends will never be the same either.

In the not too distant history of this country, conviction and execution was not a slow process. He better be thankful parts of our society are a bit more compassionate than they used to be.




Laura

[Scrivener7]

17. Not buying this one. You don't join a group like the Oath Keepers unless you are already

having some serious issues with your masculinity. The fact that he is calling himself a "strong family man" when he put his whole family at risk to impress his buddies is further proof of that shit.

AND FURTHERMORE! I doubt he would be endorsing the release of any person of color simply because it was that person's first time in jail. Which is essentially what he is demanding we do for him. Somehow I feel sure this is one of the ones who previously applauded when he heard of horrible conditions in jails and probably was from the "jail is supposed to be hard" chorus.

These guys are all twisted.


(PS: I changed my name, y'all! I used to be Squinch.)

[LakeArenal]

50. Oh Squinch. Good to know. I enjoy your posts.

[Scrivener7]

52. Thank you! I enjoy yours too!

[Trueblue1968]

53. lock him up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

23. White privilege in action. n/t

[dchill]

28. A "mentally strong and stable person..."

...would have known better than to believe anything coming from Trump's Qoup Crew.

[wryter2000]

42. Maybe he's a stable genius

He and Trump can share a cell.

[dchill]

60. ...in Hell.

[Duppers]

37. ....

Yes, what a whinny, hypocritical piece of excrement.

[Dave in VA]

2. The stupid hurts!

Just not me this time.

[vlyons]

3. Stupidity is no excuse

After he gets convicted and does his time, maybe next time he'll pause and actually THINK about what could possibly go wrong.

[Mz Pip]

4. Can't do the time?

Then don’t do the crime.

[CurtEastPoint]

5. Well, 'Graydon' (wtf?) you shoulda stayed at home with your family, 'man.'

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[MizLibby]

39. 'Graydon' (wtf?)

is Mr Libby's name too. It's a nice name, it's Canadian.

[CurtEastPoint]

40. oops

[Deacon Blue]

55. Just Looks Like an Arrogant, Gullible Dumbfuck...

I’m sure Chitollini is suffering in solidarity with his supporters. He’s a family man too, after all...

[Wednesdays]

7. He'll get his wish

If he's a white suburbanite or rural man, and not involved with the murder of Officer Sicknick, he'll get a year or two, or even probation.

[underpants]

13. I agree. These sentences aren't going to be very much

BUT they will have a federal charge against. In some places that won’t be too bad either.

[LakeArenal]

51. Can't vote. That would be cool

[smb]

57. Imagine The Wailing And Gnashing Of Teeth When They Hear The Other Part!

..."MAH GUNZ!! WHATDYA MEAN, I CAN'T HAVE MAH GUNZ NO MORE!!!!!"

[LakeArenal]

58. Ahhhh. The divine justice.

[kimbutgar]

9. When one tries to overthrow the government there are consequences

Sorry dude I want your ass to rot in jail for many years and have you lose any VA benefits for your seditious act against the Capitol building and the certification of the electoral college votes.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. Should have kept his eye on the sparrow ...

[Bucky]

12. This is going to turn into more Republicans "having a bad day"

Be careful and alert out there. Desperate people will do desperate things.

[underpants]

15. Jailing is hard

Even with the cable TV.

[Wounded Bear]

14. So a guy who was duped into flying 1000 miles to commit insurrection might be a flight risk?

Who knew?

[malaise]

16. Who joins an organization

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without knowing about it?

Off to prison snowflake.

many years ago my best friend's daughter returned home from college in the US with her Malcolm X T shirt. Her mother asked her what she had researched about Malcolm. She said not much. At that point her mother folded up the T shirt and put it in her drawer. Her mother went to the book shelf and gave her his Autobiography then suggested that she research his life for herself.

Her mom then tod her when she was finished the research she'd return the T shirt.

She wore it often after that. Never follow people - find out for yourself.

[Warpy]

29. I read his autobiography shortly after his assassination

My parents were appalled. I just wished he had lived a lot longer.

My parents never did read it. I suppose illusions are preferable to fact for a lot of people.

[malaise]

34. I can imagine

We all read it

[Warpy]

45. I don't think so. Very few people I knew read it down south

and even fewer had when I decamped to Boston, so much for $$$$ higher educations.

It was a great read.

[malaise]

46. No I meant in my little group

Most of my siblings never read it - just my group of friends

[Warpy]

48. I think more of my acquaintances finally saw the movie

which was fairly faithful to the book, just very incomplete.

I can understand why a lot of it would be incomprehensible here in NM, where bigotries and challenges are so very different. People in Boston should have been able to relate to it, if only because so many of us under 25 experienced living in slumlord housing. Oh, yeah, I totally got that part of the book,although I was angrier that the occupation was allowed to exist, rather than disdaining the ethnicity of most of the slumlords.

[Warpy]

47. Sadly, few white folks in NC had read it by the time I lefrt, a couple of years later

and fewer still in Boston had read it, so much for $$$$ higher educations.

It's not only a brilliant snapshot of the early Civil Rights period, it's also a picture of the man behind the fiery rhetoric, the reasons for the fiery rhetoric, and how his Haj had awakened him to a much broader perspective. It is truly tragic that he was shot before he had a chance to teach it.

It's not only a good read, it's a great book. I can't say that about too many books.

[malaise]

49. Agree

Well written as well

[PJMcK]

31. Good story

Thanks for sharing that. It's instructive.

You've articulated the problem with too many of today's Republicans. Namely, they really have no idea what they're talking about. They don't know the facts or the history of the things they spout off about. The obvious proof of this is that they now embrace Russia after decades of warning of the dangers Russia posed to the U.S. (Did you see the tee shirt that said, "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat"?)

Seriously, put this jerk in jail. "Family man," my ass.

[malaise]

32. Not just ReTHUGs - different generations don't know much about

heroes from previous generations. Do your homework before you dive in and get hurt.

[Blue Owl]

18. Oh suddenly the aggressor is a victim now

[brush]

19. Nice try, Mr. terrorist, but nobody is buying that crap. Should've saved that money...

you paid the lawyer to come up with that crappola. You family is gonna need it while you're away. And that will be years.

[Mickju]

20. That's a shame.

Fuck him

[peppertree]

21. Which makes what he did that much worse

Because he's not only engaging in sedition, he's acting in total disregard for his own family.

[Ford_Prefect]

22. One more useful idiot among the flock of terrorists recruited to the cause, and egged on by Putin's

stooges and his pet Orangutan. Ukraine 2.0 in the field and operational.

[greenjar_01]

24. I don't think this guy gets that he's going to federal prison

He's like "give me bail...this will all get sorted." No, buddy. Set aside two-three years. You're going to prison.

[Warpy]

25. Gee, he should have thought about the kiddies before he tried to overthrow the government

but I suppose that stuff is for wimps and cucks and not manly men like him.

Every single person there know s/he was there to stop the final certification of the electoral college vote that would oust Dumdum. Even the non violent hangers-on knew that, Dumdum told them so before he wimped out and let them do the dirty work while he watched it on live TV and cheered.

The only remorse they have is that it didn't work as advertised and they got caught.

[Upthevibe]

26. Kick....n/t

[Treefrog]

27. 'Being detained is taking an enormous toll.'

Oh boo fucking how. Ask how the dead officer and his family are doing. I hope they keep him in jail. Interesting that he deleted his fb page. Not exactly an innocent act.

[RockRaven]

30. Lying to a judge about your supposed ignorance is not a good way to get leniency...

The Oath Keepers are not coy or shy about their intentions or methods. The claim that he was unaware of their "nefarious purpose" is utterly laughable.

[NCjack]

33. He will have enough time in prison to make some family keepsakes.

I suggest that he make leather purses and wallets, with unique tooling designs. Or, maybe the warden will approve horse saddle making.

[C Moon]

35. I remember as a kid hearing the phrase, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." nt

[Tommymac]

36. Come on, Bubba is going to be good family for him.

Hell, he may even divorce his current wife.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

38. Should have thought about that first, motherfucker!

Being in jail cramping your style, Mr. Young?

Should have thought about that before committing Sedetion.

[CaptainTruth]

43. Feelings? You said something about feelings?

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[Marcuse]

44. "Guys today have no room for the penal experience."

[Random Boomer]

54. Talk about white privilege

I'm betting he never worried too much about the psychological stress of prison on black men with families they loved.

[Initech]

56. You know what? Fuck his feelings.

[yewberry]

59. Sorry, no.

It is 100% reasonable to get duped into joining a group, seeing what they have planned, and saying, "Oh, Jesus, no, I'm doing that BS, that's wrong."

It is 100% unreasonable to claim that you have been duped into joining a group, seeing that they have traitorous, dangerous & seditionist acts, participating in those acts, and then saying that you had no idea of their purposes. No.