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left-of-center2012

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Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:44 AM Mar 2021

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Please get vaccinated LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #1
you WANT the fever headache fatigue lapfog_1 Mar 2021 #2
So if none of those, it might not be working? Nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #4
no... many people get the actual virus with no symptoms lapfog_1 Mar 2021 #6
Thanks, I sort of hope I have some symptoms. Nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #8
AFAIK there is no difference Disaffected Mar 2021 #10
Thank you! nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #13
Yer most welcome. Disaffected Mar 2021 #14
uhhh no lapfog_1 Mar 2021 #19
That's the way I felt about it Rorey Mar 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Mar 2021 #7
Well, shoot... ShazzieB Mar 2021 #9
Relax, Disaffected Mar 2021 #11
Good grief. If the side effects are uncomfortable, then why can't they grasp just catbyte Mar 2021 #3
I doubt the number is really as low as 270 per million. My reaction was a big welt from the Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #12
Of course the number is as low as 270 per million. LisaL Mar 2021 #15
We are agreeing. Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #16
The worst vaccine I've ever received.. luvs2sing Mar 2021 #17
I had one day of a sore arm with the shingles shot n/t left-of-center2012 Mar 2021 #18
I had the Pfizer vaccine the other day AZProgressive Mar 2021 #20

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
1. Please get vaccinated
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:49 AM
Mar 2021

These side effects are minor compared to getting COVID

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
2. you WANT the fever headache fatigue
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:49 AM
Mar 2021

that means the vaccine is causing the immune response... thus activating the response the next time it recognizes the "virus" (the real virus)

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
4. So if none of those, it might not be working? Nt
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:52 AM
Mar 2021

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
6. no... many people get the actual virus with no symptoms
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:56 AM
Mar 2021

the only real test is to look for sars-cov-2 antibodies 2 weeks or so after your last vaccine shot

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
8. Thanks, I sort of hope I have some symptoms. Nt
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:59 AM
Mar 2021

Disaffected

(6,401 posts)
10. AFAIK there is no difference
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:02 PM
Mar 2021

in conference of immunity between those who have no side effects and those who do. The side effects are likely caused by the additives used in the vaccines rather than the active ingredients.

At least we had better hope that is the case as most folks have no significant side effects to any of the vaccines.

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
13. Thank you! nt
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:13 PM
Mar 2021

Disaffected

(6,401 posts)
14. Yer most welcome.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:27 PM
Mar 2021

It's a misunderstanding that seems oddly prevalent, even here on DU, so am glad to help refute it.

Here's another way of looking at it:

Since most people do not get significant side effects, there is no way the vaccines could achieve the efficacy they are reported to have if side effects were a reliable indicator of that efficacy.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
19. uhhh no
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 05:12 AM
Mar 2021

the symptoms are a result of your immune system reacting to the "fake virus" in the vaccine.

of course the majority of people will not have a symptomatic response to the vaccine. Doesn't mean that the vaccine was not effective in training your immune system to recognize the real virus.

but a symptomatic response to the vaccine (fever, headache, etc) is a good indicator that your immune system reacted to the fake virus.

the best way to test if the vaccine worked is to do a blood test and look for the specific antibodies

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
5. That's the way I felt about it
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:56 AM
Mar 2021

I hardly even felt my first injection, and actually asked if I really got it. A few days later I had a day of fatigue, but nothing overwhelming.

When I got the second shot, I did feel the actual shot. I woke up at 2:30 a.m. feeling not at all good. The next evening I started feeling better, and within another day or two felt great. Because of the side effects, I KNOW it worked.

Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #2)

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
9. Well, shoot...
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:00 PM
Mar 2021

I didn't have any of those things, just a slightly sore arm. My husband didn't have much of a reaction, either. Are you saying that means it didn't work? If so, I'm not sure that's accurate. Each person’s immune system is different in the way it reponds, but I don't think that necessarily means it isn't responding... does it?

Disaffected

(6,401 posts)
11. Relax,
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:04 PM
Mar 2021

the presence or absence of side effects has little to do with it.

catbyte

(39,152 posts)
3. Good grief. If the side effects are uncomfortable, then why can't they grasp just
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:50 AM
Mar 2021

how catastrophic Covid would be? jfc

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
12. I doubt the number is really as low as 270 per million. My reaction was a big welt from the
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:08 PM
Mar 2021

first shot and flu like symptoms for 2 days from the second. I didn't think they were worth reporting. I'm sure many are like me.

Which is ANOTHER indication that side effects should not keep you from getting the shot. The reactions, when they do occur, are so minor most of us don't think they're bad enough to report.

(PS: I changed my name, y'all! I used to be Squinch.)

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
15. Of course the number is as low as 270 per million.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:29 PM
Mar 2021

Most people don't report their side effects.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
16. We are agreeing.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:30 PM
Mar 2021

luvs2sing

(2,234 posts)
17. The worst vaccine I've ever received..
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:40 PM
Mar 2021

was the Shingrix. Knocked me out for ten days, took a month for the skin on my arm to get back to normal. If I had known all this would happen beforehand, would I have gotten that shot? Hell, YEAH..because SHINGLES! I feel the same way about the Covid vaccine. It is soooooo worth that inconvenience.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
18. I had one day of a sore arm with the shingles shot n/t
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:46 PM
Mar 2021

AZProgressive

(29,929 posts)
20. I had the Pfizer vaccine the other day
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 05:58 AM
Mar 2021

All I had was a little soreness in my arm which isn't unusual for me when it comes to shots.

I was able to get one sooner than I expected. VA was offering vaccines to Veterans of all ages.

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